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Topic Title: algae bloom
Topic Summary: pretty bad but I'm not seeing anything about it in the media
Created On: 01/11/2016 06:29 AM
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 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/11/2016 06:29 AM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 01/11/2016 09:17 AM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 01/11/2016 10:03 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/11/2016 12:41 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/11/2016 01:16 PM  
 algae bloom   - crankit - 01/11/2016 01:21 PM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 01/11/2016 02:35 PM  
 algae bloom   - ofdphildo - 01/12/2016 07:10 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/21/2016 07:38 AM  
 algae bloom   - crankit - 03/21/2016 07:44 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/21/2016 07:57 AM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 03/21/2016 10:39 AM  
 algae bloom   - Walker D - 03/22/2016 10:23 AM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 03/22/2016 01:48 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/22/2016 03:38 PM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 03/22/2016 06:51 PM  
 algae bloom   - Pagerow - 03/30/2016 08:19 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 03/30/2016 10:56 AM  
 algae bloom   - surfdog - 04/04/2016 08:16 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 04/09/2016 11:32 AM  
 algae bloom   - ww - 04/12/2016 03:16 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 04/14/2016 01:00 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 07/20/2016 01:44 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 08/05/2016 06:02 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 08/11/2016 05:23 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 08/12/2016 05:02 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 08/12/2016 09:27 AM  
 algae bloom   - SurferMic - 08/15/2016 06:18 AM  
 algae bloom   - pompano - 08/15/2016 05:48 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 08/16/2016 06:15 PM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 08/21/2016 05:06 PM  
 algae bloom   - tertle - 08/22/2016 04:48 PM  
 algae bloom   - foam ball - 01/12/2016 09:47 PM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 01/13/2016 12:03 PM  
 ouch   - FATLIPP - 01/14/2016 01:56 PM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 01/14/2016 02:41 PM  
 algae bloom   - alboy - 01/14/2016 09:39 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/15/2016 07:27 AM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 01/15/2016 11:05 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/15/2016 11:46 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/15/2016 11:49 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/15/2016 01:22 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/22/2016 07:00 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/22/2016 10:02 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/22/2016 11:51 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/25/2016 07:48 AM  
 algae bloom   - pompano - 01/26/2016 04:12 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/15/2016 11:42 AM  
 ouch   - alboy - 01/17/2016 09:14 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/19/2016 06:14 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/19/2016 02:17 PM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 01/19/2016 10:00 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/21/2016 06:12 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/21/2016 06:17 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/15/2016 11:38 AM  
 algae bloom   - foam ball - 01/15/2016 10:49 PM  
 algae bloom   - foam ball - 01/22/2016 02:00 PM  
 algae bloom   - foam ball - 01/26/2016 06:53 PM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 01/26/2016 07:35 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/27/2016 08:15 AM  
 algae bloom   - matt_t - 02/04/2016 11:56 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 02/08/2016 06:55 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 02/24/2016 06:26 AM  
 algae bloom   - ofdphildo - 02/25/2016 03:24 PM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 02/26/2016 06:05 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 02/26/2016 07:25 AM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 02/26/2016 10:00 AM  
 algae bloom   - crankit - 03/02/2016 06:26 AM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 03/02/2016 08:50 AM  
 algae bloom   - 3rdworldlover - 03/02/2016 02:00 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/05/2016 04:55 AM  
 algae bloom   - 3rdworldlover - 03/02/2016 02:40 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 03/03/2016 06:11 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/05/2016 05:04 AM  
 algae bloom   - foam ball - 03/05/2016 08:50 AM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 03/06/2016 06:54 PM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 03/09/2016 01:27 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 03/10/2016 06:29 AM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 03/10/2016 06:45 AM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 03/10/2016 07:37 AM  
 algae bloom   - crankit - 03/14/2016 05:52 AM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 03/14/2016 07:55 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 03/14/2016 08:57 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/14/2016 12:52 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/14/2016 12:55 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 03/15/2016 06:00 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/19/2016 07:44 AM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 03/19/2016 09:37 AM  
 algae bloom   - crankit - 03/21/2016 05:45 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/21/2016 07:13 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/21/2016 07:15 AM  
 algae bloom   - foam ball - 03/14/2016 06:46 AM  
 algae bloom   - crankit - 03/14/2016 06:49 AM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 03/30/2016 12:57 PM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 04/04/2016 01:44 PM  
 algae bloom   - Sparky - 04/05/2016 03:29 AM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 08/23/2016 07:05 AM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 08/23/2016 05:06 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 08/24/2016 10:36 AM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 08/27/2016 09:58 AM  
 algae bloom   - foam ball - 08/27/2016 08:26 PM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 08/29/2016 06:06 AM  
 algae bloom   - crankit - 10/03/2016 06:13 AM  
 algae bloom   - WG - 10/03/2016 07:09 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 10/20/2016 08:22 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 12/04/2016 10:39 AM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 12/04/2016 04:40 PM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 12/05/2016 06:42 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 12/05/2016 07:07 AM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 12/05/2016 10:01 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 12/05/2016 11:05 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/01/2017 06:48 PM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 01/03/2017 09:59 AM  
 algae bloom   - Greensleeves - 01/18/2017 07:33 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/18/2017 07:50 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/18/2017 01:17 PM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 01/18/2017 01:23 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/19/2017 06:47 AM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 01/19/2017 07:02 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/20/2017 06:37 AM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 01/20/2017 08:28 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/21/2017 12:59 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 02/10/2017 06:12 AM  
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 01/17/2016 09:14 AM
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alboy

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Originally posted by: FATLIPP they need to open the locks on a full moon tide and let it flush. this should be done every full moon. been working the river all over brevard and indian river for years and the northern areas are a dead zones. wish these guys would figure this out before it is too late to recover in our life time. I think the flooding of the low lying homes/property has a lot to do with lack of flushing.
They would never consider that. The amount of sand and sediment that fill the port would require even more dredging then they already have going on. It would jeopardize their cruise and shipping industry. Pollution is the real issue.
 01/19/2016 06:14 AM
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tom

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I hope we're not at the edge of the flip,

remember that we had 10 good years of water clarity and seagrass recovery 

right up until the superbloom.

I think that if we could essentially eliminate ornamental fertilizer

we could "buy" another 20 years.

This would be similar to the years "bought" by implementing the NPDES

which took the domestic wastewater discharges out of the Lagoons.  

Follow that up by realistic legacy load removal, ie: dredging for muck,

not just navigational dredging with a feel good "muck removal" component added in,

and full septic to sewer conversion and we have a real shot a saving the Lagoon.

Cheap and easy first - fertilizer control.   And start directing $$ to the other two expensive solutions.

Problem is sustained effort.  Few actually care if it's not in the news.

 



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 01/19/2016 02:17 PM
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scombrid

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Originally posted by: tom

 

Cheap and easy first - fertilizer control.   And start directing $$ to the other two expensive solutions.

St. Augusting lets you know when it is getting hungry. You know who and when fertilizes during the wet season by the color and vigor of the grass.

It is a majority of people still.

 

Problem is sustained effort.  Few actually care if it's not in the news.

I doubt if 1% of people riding over the causeways have any idea what the brown water below means. If they don't see/smell rotting carcases everywhere or see some crazy neon green color they just don't get it.

Plus there are a lot of people that refuse to be regulated on principle. I had one NSR regular tell me emphatically that natural lawns look like shit and that it was his land to do with as he pleased. The point about his not owning the receiving waters was not well recieved. He felt that if people care so much about the lagoon then they'll voluntarily change their ornamental horticulture practices. I think that opinion regarding the commons is common around these parts.

 

 

 

 



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Cole

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I had one NSR regular tell me emphatically that natural lawns look like shit

Yep, that's a fact. My lawn is living, well, almost living proof, but I have a canal across the street and I'd rather have trophy trout and snook than a trophy lawn.

Unfortunately, the elderly lady on the canal uses Black's Spray Service every other month.

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tom

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yes, those attitudes are out there and anecdotal

I don't have any measure of how prevalent they are compared to those who might be more interested in conservation

regaredless, that should not prevent repeating a formula of how we can restore the IRL

who knows, if you repeat it often enough....

 



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scombrid

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Take a drive in August and you'll see who feeds lawns right through the wet season.

Some fraction of those don't have a clue and some fraction don't care.

Doesn't seem to matter which is which or who is who.

I'm curious to read the water bill that Scott just signed into law.

 



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