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Topic Title: algae bloom
Topic Summary: pretty bad but I'm not seeing anything about it in the media
Created On: 01/11/2016 06:29 AM
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 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/11/2016 06:29 AM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 01/11/2016 09:17 AM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 01/11/2016 10:03 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/11/2016 12:41 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/11/2016 01:16 PM  
 algae bloom   - crankit - 01/11/2016 01:21 PM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 01/11/2016 02:35 PM  
 algae bloom   - ofdphildo - 01/12/2016 07:10 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/21/2016 07:38 AM  
 algae bloom   - crankit - 03/21/2016 07:44 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/21/2016 07:57 AM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 03/21/2016 10:39 AM  
 algae bloom   - Walker D - 03/22/2016 10:23 AM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 03/22/2016 01:48 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/22/2016 03:38 PM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 03/22/2016 06:51 PM  
 algae bloom   - Pagerow - 03/30/2016 08:19 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 03/30/2016 10:56 AM  
 algae bloom   - surfdog - 04/04/2016 08:16 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 04/09/2016 11:32 AM  
 algae bloom   - ww - 04/12/2016 03:16 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 04/14/2016 01:00 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 07/20/2016 01:44 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 08/05/2016 06:02 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 08/11/2016 05:23 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 08/12/2016 05:02 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 08/12/2016 09:27 AM  
 algae bloom   - SurferMic - 08/15/2016 06:18 AM  
 algae bloom   - pompano - 08/15/2016 05:48 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 08/16/2016 06:15 PM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 08/21/2016 05:06 PM  
 algae bloom   - tertle - 08/22/2016 04:48 PM  
 algae bloom   - foam ball - 01/12/2016 09:47 PM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 01/13/2016 12:03 PM  
 ouch   - FATLIPP - 01/14/2016 01:56 PM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 01/14/2016 02:41 PM  
 algae bloom   - alboy - 01/14/2016 09:39 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/15/2016 07:27 AM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 01/15/2016 11:05 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/15/2016 11:46 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/15/2016 11:49 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/15/2016 01:22 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/22/2016 07:00 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/22/2016 10:02 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/22/2016 11:51 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/25/2016 07:48 AM  
 algae bloom   - pompano - 01/26/2016 04:12 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/15/2016 11:42 AM  
 ouch   - alboy - 01/17/2016 09:14 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/19/2016 06:14 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/19/2016 02:17 PM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 01/19/2016 10:00 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/21/2016 06:12 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/21/2016 06:17 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/15/2016 11:38 AM  
 algae bloom   - foam ball - 01/15/2016 10:49 PM  
 algae bloom   - foam ball - 01/22/2016 02:00 PM  
 algae bloom   - foam ball - 01/26/2016 06:53 PM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 01/26/2016 07:35 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/27/2016 08:15 AM  
 algae bloom   - matt_t - 02/04/2016 11:56 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 02/08/2016 06:55 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 02/24/2016 06:26 AM  
 algae bloom   - ofdphildo - 02/25/2016 03:24 PM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 02/26/2016 06:05 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 02/26/2016 07:25 AM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 02/26/2016 10:00 AM  
 algae bloom   - crankit - 03/02/2016 06:26 AM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 03/02/2016 08:50 AM  
 algae bloom   - 3rdworldlover - 03/02/2016 02:00 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/05/2016 04:55 AM  
 algae bloom   - 3rdworldlover - 03/02/2016 02:40 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 03/03/2016 06:11 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/05/2016 05:04 AM  
 algae bloom   - foam ball - 03/05/2016 08:50 AM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 03/06/2016 06:54 PM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 03/09/2016 01:27 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 03/10/2016 06:29 AM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 03/10/2016 06:45 AM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 03/10/2016 07:37 AM  
 algae bloom   - crankit - 03/14/2016 05:52 AM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 03/14/2016 07:55 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 03/14/2016 08:57 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/14/2016 12:52 PM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/14/2016 12:55 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 03/15/2016 06:00 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/19/2016 07:44 AM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 03/19/2016 09:37 AM  
 algae bloom   - crankit - 03/21/2016 05:45 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/21/2016 07:13 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 03/21/2016 07:15 AM  
 algae bloom   - foam ball - 03/14/2016 06:46 AM  
 algae bloom   - crankit - 03/14/2016 06:49 AM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 03/30/2016 12:57 PM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 04/04/2016 01:44 PM  
 algae bloom   - Sparky - 04/05/2016 03:29 AM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 08/23/2016 07:05 AM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 08/23/2016 05:06 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 08/24/2016 10:36 AM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 08/27/2016 09:58 AM  
 algae bloom   - foam ball - 08/27/2016 08:26 PM  
 algae bloom   - Wedgefield - 08/29/2016 06:06 AM  
 algae bloom   - crankit - 10/03/2016 06:13 AM  
 algae bloom   - WG - 10/03/2016 07:09 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 10/20/2016 08:22 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 12/04/2016 10:39 AM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 12/04/2016 04:40 PM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 12/05/2016 06:42 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 12/05/2016 07:07 AM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 12/05/2016 10:01 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 12/05/2016 11:05 AM  
 algae bloom   - scombrid - 01/01/2017 06:48 PM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 01/03/2017 09:59 AM  
 algae bloom   - Greensleeves - 01/18/2017 07:33 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/18/2017 07:50 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/18/2017 01:17 PM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 01/18/2017 01:23 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/19/2017 06:47 AM  
 algae bloom   - stokedpanda - 01/19/2017 07:02 AM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/20/2017 06:37 AM  
 algae bloom   - Cole - 01/20/2017 08:28 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 01/21/2017 12:59 PM  
 algae bloom   - tom - 02/10/2017 06:12 AM  
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 01/15/2016 07:27 AM
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tom

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was on SJRWMD's GIS this morning for another reason and pulled this graphic

these are some very high (>100ug/L) CHLa levels, Haulover looks similar

bloom for sure

Here's the link: http://webapub.sjrwmd.com/agws10/hdswq/

Titusville:

CHLRa

 

 

 

 



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salinity way down too in last 2 weeks
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Originally posted by: tom

 

CHLRa

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll be curious to see how the annual report on the BMAP treats these data.

The oxygen supersaturation is nuts. That's part of the issue with clarity. In addition to dense plankton there are precipitates forming because the pH is getting so high.

Hope we don't get an all-at-once bloom collapse. That would be bad.

 

 



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tom

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^yeah, true on all counts

and fwiw,

we could fix fertilizer this year,

even with BIG $$$$,

it would take a decade or more to fix septic

oh, and...



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My concern at this point is that even with drastic reduction of inputs, the internal loading will keep the system in a hyper-eutrophic state for a long time.

I'm worried that we are witnessing a flip to an "altered stable state" in which plankton become dominant over submersed plants in perpetuity. (like Lake Jesup, Lake Apopka, Lake Marion, Harris Chain....Chesapeake Bay).

 



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scombrid

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Originally posted by: tom was on SJRWMD's GIS this morning for another reason and pulled this graphic

 

these are some very high (>100ug/L) CHLa levels, Haulover looks similar

 

bloom for sure

 

Here's the link: http://webapub.sjrwmd.com/agws10/hdswq/

 

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tom

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was talking with some of the bio guys at work today

they say yes, the brown bloom is pumping right now

not unusually bad in their eyes, blooms are common now 

duration and spread remain to be seen

(caveat - I'm not a phyto guy, just relaying anecdotal info)



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Saying it isn't that bad because it is now common is a sign that things are pretty bad.

Silver lining? Could a winter bloom suck up enough nitrogen that the water clears just in time for the growing season?

I'm  not very hopeful.

 



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scombrid

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not unusually bad in their eyes, blooms are common now

 

Seems the HABs folks at game and fish don't give a crap as long as it isn't Karenia Brevis and/or there isn't an acute die off of carismatic megafauna or prized sportfish.

 

Brown tide in the dead of winter is not common either.



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hmmm, just heard channel 6 new people say something about red tide in lagoon.  someone is going to talk about it. 

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