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Topic Title: algae bloom Topic Summary: pretty bad but I'm not seeing anything about it in the media Created On: 01/11/2016 06:29 AM |
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- scombrid | - 01/11/2016 06:29 AM |
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- scombrid | - 01/11/2016 01:16 PM |
- crankit | - 01/11/2016 01:21 PM |
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- ofdphildo | - 01/12/2016 07:10 PM |
- scombrid | - 03/21/2016 07:38 AM |
- crankit | - 03/21/2016 07:44 AM |
- scombrid | - 03/21/2016 07:57 AM |
- Cole | - 03/21/2016 10:39 AM |
- Walker D | - 03/22/2016 10:23 AM |
- stokedpanda | - 03/22/2016 01:48 PM |
- scombrid | - 03/22/2016 03:38 PM |
- Cole | - 03/22/2016 06:51 PM |
- Pagerow | - 03/30/2016 08:19 AM |
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- surfdog | - 04/04/2016 08:16 AM |
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- scombrid | - 08/12/2016 09:27 AM |
- SurferMic | - 08/15/2016 06:18 AM |
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- Cole | - 08/21/2016 05:06 PM |
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- foam ball | - 01/12/2016 09:47 PM |
- Wedgefield | - 01/13/2016 12:03 PM |
- FATLIPP | - 01/14/2016 01:56 PM |
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- alboy | - 01/17/2016 09:14 AM |
- tom | - 01/19/2016 06:14 AM |
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- Cole | - 01/19/2016 10:00 PM |
- tom | - 01/21/2016 06:12 AM |
- scombrid | - 01/21/2016 06:17 PM |
- scombrid | - 01/15/2016 11:38 AM |
- foam ball | - 01/15/2016 10:49 PM |
- foam ball | - 01/22/2016 02:00 PM |
- foam ball | - 01/26/2016 06:53 PM |
- Cole | - 01/26/2016 07:35 PM |
- tom | - 01/27/2016 08:15 AM |
- matt_t | - 02/04/2016 11:56 AM |
- scombrid | - 02/08/2016 06:55 AM |
- tom | - 02/24/2016 06:26 AM |
- ofdphildo | - 02/25/2016 03:24 PM |
- Wedgefield | - 02/26/2016 06:05 AM |
- tom | - 02/26/2016 07:25 AM |
- Wedgefield | - 02/26/2016 10:00 AM |
- crankit | - 03/02/2016 06:26 AM |
- Wedgefield | - 03/02/2016 08:50 AM |
- 3rdworldlover | - 03/02/2016 02:00 PM |
- scombrid | - 03/05/2016 04:55 AM |
- 3rdworldlover | - 03/02/2016 02:40 PM |
- tom | - 03/03/2016 06:11 AM |
- scombrid | - 03/05/2016 05:04 AM |
- foam ball | - 03/05/2016 08:50 AM |
- Cole | - 03/06/2016 06:54 PM |
- Wedgefield | - 03/09/2016 01:27 PM |
- tom | - 03/10/2016 06:29 AM |
- Cole | - 03/10/2016 06:45 AM |
- Wedgefield | - 03/10/2016 07:37 AM |
- crankit | - 03/14/2016 05:52 AM |
- Wedgefield | - 03/14/2016 07:55 AM |
- tom | - 03/14/2016 08:57 AM |
- scombrid | - 03/14/2016 12:52 PM |
- scombrid | - 03/14/2016 12:55 PM |
- tom | - 03/15/2016 06:00 AM |
- scombrid | - 03/19/2016 07:44 AM |
- Cole | - 03/19/2016 09:37 AM |
- crankit | - 03/21/2016 05:45 AM |
- scombrid | - 03/21/2016 07:13 AM |
- scombrid | - 03/21/2016 07:15 AM |
- foam ball | - 03/14/2016 06:46 AM |
- crankit | - 03/14/2016 06:49 AM |
- stokedpanda | - 03/30/2016 12:57 PM |
- stokedpanda | - 04/04/2016 01:44 PM |
- Sparky | - 04/05/2016 03:29 AM |
- stokedpanda | - 08/23/2016 07:05 AM |
- Cole | - 08/23/2016 05:06 PM |
- tom | - 08/24/2016 10:36 AM |
- Cole | - 08/27/2016 09:58 AM |
- foam ball | - 08/27/2016 08:26 PM |
- Wedgefield | - 08/29/2016 06:06 AM |
- crankit | - 10/03/2016 06:13 AM |
- WG | - 10/03/2016 07:09 AM |
- scombrid | - 10/20/2016 08:22 AM |
- scombrid | - 12/04/2016 10:39 AM |
- Cole | - 12/04/2016 04:40 PM |
- stokedpanda | - 12/05/2016 06:42 AM |
- tom | - 12/05/2016 07:07 AM |
- stokedpanda | - 12/05/2016 10:01 AM |
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01/11/2016 10:03 AM
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We used to have barnacles on our dock pylons in the canal off fourth street south and crabs, shrimp, minnows would hide in there we caught reds, sheeps, trout, tarpon, jacks, ladies, mangroves, pinfish all off the dock. Now i havnt seen a barnacle in three years and the pylons are covered with green algea, slime, and some form of grass that looks like green plastic bags. super bummer no fish either except mullet ------------------------- I troll 2L.com to be a better person in real life |
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01/11/2016 12:41 PM
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there are some ORCA "kilroy"s on the river getting real time data, looks like the northern stations are off line http://api.kilroydata.org/public/ SJRWMD is doing a once or twice monthly (site dependent) monitoring runs not updated recently but bloom news will be here: http://floridaswater.com/indianriverlagoon/currentnews.html IRL Symposium at Harbor Branch Feb 11 and 12: http://www.indianriverlagoon.org/symposium.html ------------------------- add a signature since I'm here in profile anyway |
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01/11/2016 01:16 PM
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I was looking at some of the real time data from the WMD and the dissolved oxygen saturation during the last month is crazy for this time of year. I was also annoyed that the bloom news had not been updated since September given the breadth and concentration of the current event. ------------------------- ... |
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01/11/2016 01:21 PM
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Grant to the Inlet looked good, not clear but clean. ------------------------- Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18 |
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01/11/2016 02:35 PM
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one more item to this: I have not caught a trout; big or small, last few times out. Anybody having same experience?
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01/12/2016 07:10 PM
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I live on Sykes Creek in Merritt Island. The water in the canal is usually clearing up by this time, but still pretty murky this year. I was goofing off this evening and caught a 12" trout on a popping cork. But all in all the lagoon is suffering. I try to do my part with fertilizer and such. Sad. I am going to do the oyster program this spring through the Brevard Zoo.
If only we could get some of that sand dumping money for our estuary.
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03/21/2016 07:38 AM
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not updated recently but bloom news will be here: http://floridaswater.com/indianriverlagoon/currentnews.html
News page has been deleted from the district's IRL website. ------------------------- ... |
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03/21/2016 07:44 AM
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Some interesting observations- http://news.brevardtimes.com/2016/03/brown-tide-causes-massive-fish-kill-in.html ------------------------- Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18 |
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03/21/2016 07:57 AM
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Station in Sykes Creek south of 520 showed dissolved oxygen below 1mg/l on the 18th and then bottoming out for several hours near 0 mg/l on the 19th and 20th. ------------------------- ... |
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03/21/2016 10:39 AM
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It's killing everything from top to bottom, even the oysters.
This is freaking horrible. ------------------------- I was right. |
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03/22/2016 10:23 AM
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So what causes the daily fluctuation in the DO and Chl readings? Is that a tidal signature? -------------------------
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03/22/2016 01:48 PM
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Tons of dead mullet, sheephead, and catfish in my CB canal.......some trout and reds, but maybe fish that mainly eat plants/algaE/ barnacles are dying first....... is it(THE DOODOO) in the plant life? ------------------------- I troll 2L.com to be a better person in real life |
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03/22/2016 03:38 PM
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Oxygen fluctuates in response to production by plants during the day and uptake by everything else at night. Crazy thing about oxygen with this bloom is how much time it spent at >100% saturation in the lead up to the crash. But it is normal in an algae bloom situation for dissolved oxygen to get really high during period of maximum photosynthetic activity during the day and then decline at night when the plankton respire. Chlorophyll in the in continuous field samples is measured by flourescence. I don't know if that daily fluctuation is real or an artifact of flourescence changes. I think that fluorescence of the chlorophyll changes as photosynthetic activity changes. I've seen papers where fluorescence change is used to measure changes in photosynthetic activity. Sort of like when the chlorophyll is all charged up by the sun just before the sample gets pulled through the sensor then it fluoresces more than it does at night. If that is the case then the actual chlorophyll concentration isn't changing daily like that. Since chlorophyll is used as a proxy for phytoplankton abundance/biomass then I would expect that there is a calibration to correct for fluorescence changes. But plankton isn't my thing so maybe somebody that knows more about it can answer better. ------------------------- ... |
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03/22/2016 06:51 PM
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https://www.ysi.com/File%20Library/Documents/Technical%20Notes/T612-Alternate-Calibration-Methods-for-the-YSI-6025-Chlorophyll-Sensor.pdf
The link won't attach. Block, right click, hit "open link" ------------------------- I was right. |
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03/30/2016 08:19 AM
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https://www.ysi.com/File%20Library/Documents/Technical%20Notes/T612-Alternate-Calibration-Methods-for-the-YSI-6025-Chlorophyll-Sensor.pdf The link won't attach. Block, right click, hit "open link" https://www.ysi.com/File%20Lib...Chlorophyll-Sensor.pdf Fixed ------------------------- GOP: Gaslight Obstruct Project |
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03/30/2016 10:56 AM
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falling off the front page here (as well as the tv news, newspaper, etc etc etc) what else is new? Well, chlorophyll is returning to "high normal" - my term not an official one - at the north IRL kilroys, around 40-50 ug/L. Maybe the bloom is finally fizzling. Three months worth. Long time to shade out the deeper seagrass. ------------------------- add a signature since I'm here in profile anyway |
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04/04/2016 08:16 AM
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We took our little Proline center consol for a run out of Manatee Cove marina at Patrick Sunday evening and saw lots of mullet jumping, large ones, and some smaller fish pods that the pelicans were diving for. Also saw a good sized gator(possibly cleaning up the remainder of the dead fish?) in the water by the water drain. On the beach near the channel we saw some horseshoe crabs and although they were on their backs for some reason they were kicking their legs so they were alive. Also noticed quite a few wading herons and egrets, and saw pods of dolphin on the south side of the Pineda causeway chasing fish. Saw manatees as well. Maybe it isn't as grim as I had suspected. At least there are still mullet around. I am hoping they are the survivors and not the ones yet to die. |
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04/09/2016 11:32 AM
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Station in Sykes Creek south of 520 showed dissolved oxygen below 1mg/l on the 18th and then bottoming out for several hours near 0 mg/l on the 19th and 20th.
Just saw an article in tcpalm stating that ORCA funding has been cut and they are going to have to scrap some stations. ------------------------- ... |
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04/12/2016 03:16 PM
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That's correct. Fortunately there's a few stations funded from other sources. |
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04/14/2016 01:00 PM
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A bunch of USGS gages along the St. Johns have the following message:
ATTENTION - Continuous temperature, specific conductance and dissolved oxygen data collection at this station will be discontinued on October 1, 2016, unless a new cooperating agency or alternative funding can be identified. If you have an interest in the collection of data at this gage, or are able to assist with funding beyond October 1, 2016, please contact Darrell Lambeth at dlambeth@usgs.gov.
USGS has been monitoring water quality at numerous sites along the St. Johns River with funding from the St. Johns River Water Management District. That funding must have been pulled too.
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07/20/2016 01:44 PM
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Water in Rockledge/Cocoa looks terrible. It had been looking decent. It is now dark reddish brown, characteristic of Pyrodinium. Bioluminescence is vivid. I'd say it is reaching bloom concentrations. ------------------------- ... |
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08/05/2016 06:02 PM
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Floaters in the Banana River again today. Don't know how widespread. Dissolved oxygen measured by a station at the 520 causeway in the Banana is showing a massive diurnal fluctuation for the last 30 days. Must have gotten pretty low last night.
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08/11/2016 05:23 PM
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Green lawns brown lagoon. Companies are laying down the juice right now here in Rockledge. Lots of St. Auggie looking super green. Don't get that deep color in mid summer without supplemental nitrogen. ------------------------- ... |
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08/12/2016 05:02 AM
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True that. One of my neighbors got "treated' for chinchbugs and boy did that lawn green up. The "pros" are not on board with the (toothless) ban. ------------------------- add a signature since I'm here in profile anyway |
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08/12/2016 09:27 AM
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Funny the spray tech sprays and then puts up the little pesticide warning sign and two days later the lawn is practically glowing green. That's some magic stuff.
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08/15/2016 06:18 AM
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, Edited: 08/15/2016 at 04:19 PM by SurferMic |
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08/15/2016 05:48 PM
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I ride tropical trail up to crooked mile when I can after work and on weekends. I get faint whiffs of bloom down toward the Mather's bridge area but not strong lately. |
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08/16/2016 06:15 PM
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Strong pyrodinium bloom on IRL in the Rockledge/Cocoa area. Very patchy but the patches are dense. Low intensity fish kill from at least River Ridge development to Cocoa Village today. There were hog chokers, sheepshead, and puffers gasping at the surface this morning at daybreak. This evening there's a funk in the air and scattered dead fish. Its mostly puffers but I saw a mix of other species too with birds and dolphins picking off the weak that weren't quite dead yet. ------------------------- ... |
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08/21/2016 05:06 PM
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The river looked camo between Cocoa Beach and Merritt Island.
Some serious blooms springing up, let's just hope the stay sporadic. ------------------------- I was right. |
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08/22/2016 04:48 PM
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it's not any better up north. i fished dummits cove and a little north of haulover on the IRL side the past two weeks. the water level is the lowest that i think i have ever seen in that area. on top of that i don't think i have ever seen so many tailing catfish. i got fooled a few times from a distance (in the morning) thinking it was reds, nope. tailing or not tailing, the catfish population is nuts. came across 4-5 reds the entire day in really skinny water. almost had one swim right into my kayak he was so consumed with feeding.
i have almost stopped fishing anywhere south of haulover down to mathers over the past year. i'm sure there are pockets of clean water but finding them in a kayak isn't the best method but that's all i got. i remember the days of gin clear water, those were the days.....i hope those days come back.
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