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Topic Title: Cuban immigrant gives grim warning to Americans
Topic Summary: Dems should really watch this short video
Created On: 01/22/2022 01:32 PM
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 01/24/2022 03:18 AM
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Greensleeves

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What's your point baloney? It's easy enough to print out definitions. Do you think that the Biden administration is out to control the means of production in order to redistribute wealth? Rusty loves that second definition. Propping up the wealthy is what the whole thing is about.
 01/24/2022 04:27 AM
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Lunchmeat

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Just putting up some info, some confuse the two.
 01/24/2022 07:22 AM
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Cole

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It's a dudes opinion, good for him. He's not necessarily wrong, but it also doesn't really mean anything. The US will never be like Cuba. Were we like an old Eastern Block country under Trump? Sure, but Cuba? Nope, won't happen.

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 01/24/2022 05:55 PM
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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: Greensleeves

What's your point baloney? It's easy enough to print out definitions. Do you think that the Biden administration is out to control the means of production in order to redistribute wealth? Rusty loves that second definition. Propping up the wealthy is what the whole thing is about.


I'd really just like people to be able to a doctor when they're sick without going bankrupt.

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 01/24/2022 06:03 PM
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scombrid

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Well, there's things that democratic socialism could provide but Lunchmeat et al. think those are all Stalinism/Castrosim. So we need to go full free market on the health care side of things to let them get what they want.

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 01/24/2022 06:33 PM
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3rdworldlover

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Compared to most other western nations, the USA has the worst statistics for everything that matters and they're getting worse.
50 years of ceding power to Wall Street and rightwing trickle down economics has failed.
We'll be a lot like Cuba and Venezuela soon, if we don't take our power back.
 01/24/2022 06:33 PM
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Greensleeves

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Agreed Rusty, perhaps that could be done with socialist programs as opposed to socialism?
 01/24/2022 08:36 PM
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surfsail

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Also just came into Medicare after getting raped by 'health (dont give a fuck!) care' since 1992..

Yeah, it's all fine and well if you work on a government contracts and get your health care paid for (was breifly in the system in 1991 - General Dynamics - talk about gravy job.. 168 hours of sick leave a year - and most thought it was their god given right to use all of it.. I never called in sick a day.. Used comp time to windsurf & surf.

The biggest welfare system we have going on here in Brevard is the Military Industrial Complex at CCAFS, NASA et al..

Worked on the outside of the system as a consultant off base for decades on large to small projects and got to seen it first hand..

Not to mention seeing AF guys doing 'reviews' being prepped by LMC et al for future 'golden parachute' jobs within the fold..

Also grew up abroard in an oil producing nation and saw the foreign 'influence' and with corruption & bribing of local officials at work.. A couple US & other foreign firms were even succesfully 'prosecuted' ('guilty' verdicts).. Of course, and as expected, the 'Settlements' and 'fines' were a joke compared to what was actually stolen from the public purse.. Hence my references to Batista types who were responsible for putting Fidel into power, and the similar ones in Venezuela who effectively put Chavez into power - by the way through open and fair elections with overwhelming margins.. Funny what happens when poor people actually get motivated to vote..

Also funny how we like to promote 'democracy' abroard - until someone we don't like gets in..

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Edited: 01/24/2022 at 08:44 PM by surfsail

 01/24/2022 11:14 PM
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HAPDigital

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Insurance is a scam in general. It's just legalized extortion. I have so many insurance policies on so many different things. Rarely make claims if ever. Basically giving away money for nothing.
 01/25/2022 03:44 AM
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Lunchmeat

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Originally posted by: scombrid

Well, there's things that democratic socialism could provide but Lunchmeat et al. think those are all Stalinism/Castrosim. So we need to go full free market on the health care side of things to let them get what they want.


thanks for thinking for me, you guys are pretty good at that. I merely posted some information for some people that may be confused between the two. I did not give an opinion either way but thanks for assuming. Some of you are pretty defensive, feeling like every comment is directed at you or something.

Edited: 01/25/2022 at 03:47 AM by Lunchmeat
 01/25/2022 04:23 AM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: Lunchmeat

Originally posted by: scombrid



Well, there's things that democratic socialism could provide but Lunchmeat et al. think those are all Stalinism/Castrosim. So we need to go full free market on the health care side of things to let them get what they want.




thanks for thinking for me, you guys are pretty good at that. I merely posted some information for some people that may be confused between the two. I did not give an opinion either way but thanks for assuming. Some of you are pretty defensive, feeling like every comment is directed at you or something.


If you don't believe what you post, why post it in the first place? Funny, FK does the same thing.



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 01/25/2022 05:29 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: Cole

Originally posted by: Lunchmeat



Originally posted by: scombrid







Well, there's things that democratic socialism could provide but Lunchmeat et al. think those are all Stalinism/Castrosim. So we need to go full free market on the health care side of things to let them get what they want.








thanks for thinking for me, you guys are pretty good at that. I merely posted some information for some people that may be confused between the two. I did not give an opinion either way but thanks for assuming. Some of you are pretty defensive, feeling like every comment is directed at you or something.




If you don't believe what you post, why post it in the first place? Funny, FK does the same thing.


Liar!

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