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Topic Title: Cuban immigrant gives grim warning to Americans
Topic Summary: Dems should really watch this short video
Created On: 01/22/2022 01:32 PM
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 01/22/2022 01:32 PM
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surfrc

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgCEJg8JVnM

You might learn something, but probably not because you are brainwashed.
 01/22/2022 01:50 PM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: surfrc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgCEJg8JVnM



You might learn something, but probably not because you are brainwashed.


Calling people brainwashed is your idea of civil? So fake, like your alias.
 01/22/2022 02:02 PM
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surfrc

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Ok, you are correct, brainwashed may be a little harsh, I take that back.
As far as my alias, why would I create a fake alias almost 19 years ago to just now start posting on this forum?
 01/22/2022 02:05 PM
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HAPDigital

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We've seen it all here.
 01/22/2022 02:07 PM
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johnnyboy

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Is there more than one Cuban or is this the only you agree with?

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 01/22/2022 05:27 PM
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surfrc

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

Is there more than one Cuban or is this the only you agree with?


You live in south Florida right? Why the fuck do you think that it is heavily populated with Cubin?
 01/22/2022 05:35 PM
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Like what a good old Batista boy thinks really means a shit.. Whaa whaa,

Also how gives a shit what the winey ass snot nosed displaced Venny brats living in WPB think..

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 01/22/2022 05:58 PM
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surfrc

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Originally posted by: surfsail

Like what a good old Batista boy thinks really means a shit.. Whaa whaa,


Also how gives a shit what the winey ass snot nosed displaced Venny brats living in WPB think..


Common bro, you SHOULD care what they say. They have lived through socialism and know it it does not work and you lose freedom and they do not want SOCIALISM here. I heard the same shit from three surfers from Venezuela, that had recently immigrated to Miami. They were so stoked be be in free America. We know each other and I know you are an educated professional engineer, but I do not understand how you can continue to support this far left narrative.
 01/22/2022 06:03 PM
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There's a reason why Cubans, Venezuelans and Canadians were all denied entry while all who crossed the southern border were welcome. Even a blind man can see that.

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 01/22/2022 06:50 PM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: surfrc

Originally posted by: surfsail



Like what a good old Batista boy thinks really means a shit.. Whaa whaa,





Also how gives a shit what the winey ass snot nosed displaced Venny brats living in WPB think..




Common bro, you SHOULD care what they say. They have lived through socialism and know it it does not work and you lose freedom and they do not want SOCIALISM here. I heard the same shit from three surfers from Venezuela, that had recently immigrated to Miami. They were so stoked be be in free America. We know each other and I know you are an educated professional engineer, but I do not understand how you can continue to support this far left narrative.


Correction: they have lived through dictatorship.
 01/22/2022 06:53 PM
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HAPDigital

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Socialist countries: Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Great Britain, Canada, the Netherlands, Spain, Ireland, Belgium, Switzerland, Australia, Japan, and New Zealand

Is anyone in these countries wanting to escape?
 01/22/2022 07:06 PM
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surfrc

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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Socialist countries: Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Great Britain, Canada, the Netherlands, Spain, Ireland, Belgium, Switzerland, Australia, Japan, and New Zealand



Is anyone in these countries wanting to escape?


I'm not sure what definition of socialism you are using, but I say No You Are wrong. Even though Australia is not a socialist (in my opinion) I'm pretty sure there are many Australians that would like to get the fuck out right about now.
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Several past and present states have declared themselves socialist states or in the process of building socialism. The majority of self-declared socialist countries have been Marxist - Leninist or inspired by it, following the model of the Soviet Union or some form of people's or national democracy. They share a common definition of socialism and they refer to themselves as socialist states on the road to communism with a leading vanguard party structure, hence they are often called communist states. Meanwhile, the countries in the non-Marxist - Leninist category represent a wide variety of different interpretations of the term socialism and in many cases the countries do not define what they mean by it. Modern uses of the term socialism are wide in meaning and interpretation.
 01/22/2022 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Originally posted by: surfrc



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgCEJg8JVnM







You might learn something, but probably not because you are brainwashed.




Calling people brainwashed is your idea of civil? So fake, like your alias.


...but he's right

..you are braindamaged.

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 01/22/2022 07:38 PM
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SlimyBritches

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I just got on some socialist medical programs. Medicare and S.S. For fuggin 11 years I was paying $2,400 a month for the privilege to have American health care. That doesn't count co pays. Luckily I only had to use it when I fug myself up surfing, which is usually every 3 to 5 years. That's a giant chunk of change YOU ESSAY!!! MUTHER FUGGER!
 01/22/2022 07:56 PM
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surfrc

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See we already live in a socialist country. NOT We all pay into the SS system most of our life. If you are drawing benefits from social security and Medicare you are just receiving some of the $ you put in.
 01/22/2022 10:32 PM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: surfrc

See we already live in a socialist country. NOT We all pay into the SS system most of our life. If you are drawing benefits from social security and Medicare you are just receiving some of the $ you put in.


Yup, all the things you guys call socialism here, the things democrats want are that way. They'd use taxes to fund the things you consider socialist. So thanks for clearing that up. You can now stop calling us socialists.
 01/23/2022 01:20 AM
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Greensleeves

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Wait social security ain't social? So the money y'all put in goes back to you? Spoiler alert: It goes to everyone.

QOP never see past themselves huh? It's like their view of masks. Mask wearing ain't just about you.

It's no wonder they worship Qrump. A narcissist bitch of a man that never got his hands dirty except with one of his whores while cheating on his wife.
 01/23/2022 08:21 AM
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"Socialism" is public ownership or control of the means of production. "Means of production" refers primarily to tools: factories, machines, perhaps large plots of land... anything that is too large to be controlled by a single individual except in the case of vast wealth disparity, and where that wealth disparity would be used under a capitalist economy to ensure that the workers who operate the means of production receive only minimal compensation for it. Under a socialist economy, public control of the means of production means that profits from the means of production are shared with the workers rather than with the owners (since the workers are the owners).

"Social programs" are a collective action by the government to ensure that certain basic needs are met. It's widely thought that the existence of an underclass leads to general social unrest, and from there to a bad economy. They thus benefit everybody, perhaps especially those with the most wealth, since they have the most to lose from a government that falters under public unrest. The risk of free riding makes this a legitimate government enterprise.

In other words... the two have practically nothing to do with one another

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Edited: 01/23/2022 at 08:23 AM by Lunchmeat
 01/23/2022 11:02 AM
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RustyTruck

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The U.S. Social Security system is a retirement program "owned" by the public and operated for the benefit of the people. The right wing has hated its socialist nature since day one, and tried to "privatize" it so their capitalist friends could steal from it.

As Hap pointed out, there are socialist parties who form governments all over the world. All this BS about Cuba and Venezuela is just red baiting. Sure there are Cubans in FL who are still mad that Castro freed their slaves. Same with rich Venezuelans who would love to get the USA to fight Maduro for them.

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 01/23/2022 04:34 PM
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pompano

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hey, you guys are confusing this person's kinda singular view of socialism. cut that crap out.
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