Guess what COLESLAW.....

YOU are the LOSER AND LIAR!

FACT!

CAUGHT AGAIN!

The GANNET sighting map!

FUCKING MORON!




Sick sea birds wash up on Central Florida beaches
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WESHUpdated: 5:11 PM EDT Apr 12, 2018
Dan Billow
Reporter

BREVARD COUNTY, Fla. -
Scores of rare sea birds are washing up on Central Florida beaches, starving and near death.

The beauty of the northern gannet is exceeded only by the pathos of its predicament.
Tracy Frampton of the Florida Wildlife Hospital said the birds are starving.

Gannets are rarely seen in Brevard County, but they migrate far off the coast, heading to their breeding grounds on the coastal cliffs of Maine and Canada. In a tragedy that's not been seen in more than 15 years, many are not making it.

"We get calls every day that people are finding them, we call it beached; they're on the beach," Frampton said.

The Florida Wildlife Hospital has received as many as 22 in one day and 85 in all since late March. They cannot save them all. For a hospital that runs only on donations, it's hard. Food and staff time are expensive, but they try.

"It's heartbreaking, especially the ones that come in so weak. It's very heartbreaking," Frampton said.

In a few cases, the northern gannets have regained their strength, and can be released to resume their migration, but it's a hard journey. Biologists don't have all the answers why so many haven't been able to find or catch the fish they need to survive.

The Florida Wildlife Hospital accepts donations through its website and Facebook page.

The northern gannet is a protected species; the Audubon Society considers the bird climate-endangered.



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 05/04/2021 at 04:57 AM by Fish Killer

Just so that we are ALL on the same page.......I was TUNA FISHING 100 miles off the BREVARD coast the 2nd week of APRIL!

I KILLED two TUNA.....UNDER GANNETS!

GANNETS ARE TUNA BIRDS!

COLESLAW...ON THE OTHERHAND....IS A FUCKING MORON!

PROVED...AGAIN!

FACT!



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

It's a shame we won't be reaching herd immunity anytime soon. Tens of thousands will die as a result of people being afraid of the vaccination. A culling of the herd if you will.

I don't see how someone can look at Brazil and Indian, then come to the conclusion that the virus is some kind of Liberal hoax. This thing is the real deal and when left to it's own devices, gets even worse.

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I was right.

LOOK...THE LOSER CHANGES THE SUBJECT!

LOST HIS ASS ON THE LAST ROUND SO HE HAS TO PULL UP SOMETHING THAT HE THINKS WILL SAVE HIM SOME FACE!

FUCK NO...COLESLAW.....YOU DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT TUNA FISHING!

NEVER HAVE...NEVER WILL!

FACT!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 05/04/2021 at 05:08 AM by Fish Killer

How many more have to die because big strapping men are afraid of a little needle?

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I was right.

COLESLAW...THE NON-FISHERMAN NON-BOAT OWNING PATHOLOGICAL LIAR..... TELLING A PERSON THAT OWNS A TUNA BOAT AND THAT ACTUALLY GOES TUNA FISHING (AS IN RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!) WHAT I DID OR DID NOT SEE OR DO TO CATCH THE FUCKING TUNA THAT ARE IN MY FUCKING FREEZER!

THATS THE DEFINITION OF A FRAUD COMMIE PROG DEMOSHIT THAT TRIES TO MANIPULATE AND LIE ABOUT ...WHAT THE FUCK HE DOESN'T KNOW!

SHUT THE FUCK UP...COLESLAW!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

COLESLAW......

THE

LOSER!

DOESN'T

KNOW

SHIT

ABOUT

TUNA

FISHING!

FACT!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

See that some areas are starting to open up - to those who got the jab. Also Vacc for kids not far away - schools starten to reopen fully - to those with their shots.. Don't want to give them the jab - sure stay home, lose income, let your kids get further behind - as if having an ignorant person for a parent wasn't a bad enough a start in life... Choices choices.. Time to separate the wheat from the chaffe..

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Please stop feeding the trolls - they will go away if you do...

So, you are a big fan of authoritarianism I see. This isn't about the health of children. This is about cramming an agenda down the throats of citizens by forcing parents choose between their children receiving an education that we are already paying for with our tax dollars or putting a vaccine that hasn't been fully approved by the FDA into their child, when the numbers show that Covid-19 is less than half as deadly to kids under 18 as the flu is.

If school systems want to pull some cruel shit like this and use kids' education as a bargaining chip then I say they should go for it. Private schools will be busting at the seams in no time due more-so to the principal of the matter than the vaccine itself. Public schools will devolve into a place where most teachers would probably teach elsewhere very quickly.

Democrats lack foresight when it comes to things like this. You like this authoritarianism because it is something you agree with. How much would you like it if your kids' education was being held hostage for something you didn't agree with or were even on the fence about?

Luckily, I can just about guarantee this will not happen here. Policies like this will take place in areas that are already in their transition to being hellholes. Those people who are mobile and can afford to get out will do so. Those who can't will be forced to live under these kinds of conditions.

Goddamnit. Every time I hear someone use the term "the jab" all I can picture is a room full of fucking dorks in a marketing department sitting around a conference room in a high-rise office building that Pfizer owns somewhere, trying to figure out how to message this to younger people in a way that sounds cool. Fail. You can bet your ass that some doofus in a marketing department gave a PowerPoint on why this should be called "the jab" before you guys took the bait.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Edited: 05/04/2021 at 06:32 AM by Sniper

Sniper, didn't you say the unhealthy should stay home or otherwise avoid you because you refused to wear a mask?

How is this any different. I'm vaccinated, you aren't. If you don't want to get sick stay home....right?

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No, Cole. I didn't say any of that. That is what you inferred because you are not an intelligent human being.

We are talking about children and their ability to receive an education being dependent on receiving a vaccine that has not been completely vetted by the FDA and they are not particularly at risk from. Covid has resulted in just over 250 deaths in kids 0-17. A typical flu season is double that. I would assume the teachers have been vaccinated if they would like to.

Should we force kids to get shingles vaccines before they can receive an education? Colonoscopy? Routine pregnancy tests? You guys are suggesting opening a can of worms that just shouldn't be opened.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

No, Cole. I didn't say any of that. That is what you inferred because you are not an intelligent human being.


Of course you have. I'll go find it if you would like. It might take awhile since you have argued against masks since the virus began, but I'm usually pretty good, so...

To be clear, you never said the infirm should avoid public spaces or at best, avoid people who refuse to wear a mask?

As far as children, there is a list of about 50 inoculations they have to have before they can attend public school, so this request is not only out of the norm, it is expected for multiple other diseases.

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Edited: 05/04/2021 at 07:41 AM by Cole

Go back and post it all here. I'll be waiting.

We vaccinate children for illnesses that directly impact children, not ones that are not approved by the FDA and only affect old people. That is why we aren't demanding that children receive the shingles vaccine or get colonoscopies.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

This is a reckless reoccurring scenario with Coleslaw.

He has a serious reading problem that he will not address.

He reads something...ANYTHING...and he only picks out the parts he likes that can be used to further his agenda...and then twists those parts to try to say that the person is wrong.

He uses one (of his) twisted statements to try to invalidate an entire scenario (that is proved true again and again).

He needs help!

I can't count the number of times that I've seen this basic statement ...from numerous people.

Furthermore I can't count the number of times he has been flat out called a liar (with proof)...and NOT by me.

Again...Coleslaw needs serious help!



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

News story yesterday said a clinical trial of the Pfister vaccine on children is going smoothly. A story today notes lots of covid infections in Florida schools.

No masks in public, because I am healthy.



Anti mask crusade.



Anti mask crusade.



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I have said it a million times and I don't intend on going into it again because it is pointless but I never thought dirty cloth masks did anything. I thought that the vulnerable needed N95 masks and should wear them.

Please don't try to talk about the stupid shit with the droplets. When we are talking about droplets as it relates to viruses, what people expel when they are vaping are droplets, except in the context of viruses, the droplets are much much smaller than the visible droplets expelled through vaping.

I think that asymptomatic spread is basically bullshit.

People who have been vaccinated are only wearing masks for the fun of it.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Sad note #1 is that it's time to put Cole on ignore because it's the only way to keep EffGay off my screen. You thread hijackers should take it to the Fishing forum.



I think it was pretty well documented early on that asymptomatic spread among unvaccinated people played a huge role in the pandemic. Is that still in question in your mind?

Vaccinated folks who get reinfected are discussed in this article:



If a vaccinated person is infected but asymptomatic, he is probably carrying a lower total viral load because his antibodies are knocking down some of the virus' attempts to replicate. He is not being a nice host, and thus has fewer viral particles he can spew out to others.

But, while 50% is a nice and significant number, if it means you only risk spreading it to 2 household members instead of 4, that's still a pretty good case for wearing masks indoors in close quarters if other unvaccinated or at-risk people are present.

FWIW, my entire immediate family has already had COVID (very mild cases) and gotten vaccinated afterward, but we still have no objection to wearing masks indoors at businesses and restaurants.

My only exception so far has been at the gym (where almost everyone is unmasked... ) .

I hit the treadmill w/o a mask for the first time earlier this week when nobody else was there, and I felt like friggin' Usain Bolt.

Based on the CDC's numbers, asymptomatic cases among vaccinated individuals is basically non-existant. These asymptomatic cases account for 0.003% of the cases they have recorded.

Based on what I have read and statements from the WHO and CDC it is my opinion that presymptomatic infections contributed minimally but asymptomatic cases did not. Asymptomatic cases were used to justify making everyone wear masks, instead of just the ones who are sick or feeling ill. The whole "you are doing it to help everyone else" thing.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Edited: 05/06/2021 at 07:14 AM by Sniper

What is the point of forcing people to wear masks if they didn't think they would help? Are we really to believe there is some mighty cabal that just likes to orchestrate the public for no reason? lol

"Ha, ha, watch this, I'm going to make all of them wear masks!"

That's fucking ridiculous.

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I was right.

That's what qotards believe, they have simple minds and thus believe ridiculous things.


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I think it is either out of ignorance or just covering their asses. Basically the same reason why Florida has practically evacuated the entire state for the past 3-4 hurricanes that have gotten anywhere close to us. It is easier just tell everyone to get out than it is to accurately predict where the most damage will be done. It was easier for them to just tell everyone to wear a mask then it was to explain to everyone who should wear a a mask and have them do it.

I honestly think they just didn't know. Same reason they told everyone not to wear masks then changed their minds. Same reason they said kids couldn't be in schools and then said they should be. At this point, they have bet the farm on masking so they can't turn back. Biden's entire strategy around the vaccine rollout has basically just been a continuation of what Trump was doing with the exception of his emphasis on masks. It is my opinion that he wants to use that as a way to take credit for something that was already happening when he showed up.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Edited: 05/06/2021 at 07:47 AM by Sniper

You knowledge on the subject is pretty limited and it is quite clearly expressed in your response.

1. They didn't tell people to not wear masks, then change their minds. That is revisionist or simply ignorant. They specifically told people to reserve N95 and surgical masks for people on the front lines because there was a massive shortage. The science behind why masks are needed and work was well established and further verified with this pandemic by further studies as well as data analysis.

2. What Biden did with vaccine rollout was not a 'continuation of Trump'. This is , yet again, either revisionist or ignorant. Trump did not have a plan to actually get shots in the arms of actual people. He also purposefully obstructed the incoming administration by denying them information and resources. Biden, even before taking office, was working with state governments and private entities to actually get shots in people's arms. The Trump plan ended at dumping vaccines off with the states and had no further guidance, direction, cohesion, or leadership beyond that point. Furthermore, he literally undermined vaccine adoption by conservatives with his own words and behavior, political reasons. Meanwhile, he quietly went and got vaccinated himself.4

3. Regarding the school situation. It was important to keep kids out of school initially as we learned more about the virus. The logic behind it is easy to understand even for those poorly versed in how viruses spread. Allowing onsite schooling, masked up, would have been the 'right' call however, nobody had a crystal ball and nobody knew exactly how the virus worked at the time.

Really though, even taking into account your revisionism and/or ignorance it absolutely should be expected that there will be back and forth, changes in best practice, adaptation of different precautions, and so forth as we learned more about a *new* virus. Like duh, seriously-fucking-duh.

It is going to require multiple posts to unpack this one...



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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Futhermore, this is just wrong.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

So, are you saying we are in agreement when I said, "I honestly think they just didn't know."? LOL


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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Specifically about making the call regarding schools? How could they know? When people like you and some of the dingbats like FK and Tpig cite the government 'changing' things its purpose generally is to attempt to discredit the severity of the pandemic or to justify irresponsible of asshole behavior.

It really boils down to common sense in realizing that information, guidance, and situations change based on acquired knowledge as well as regional or local spread. For the most part, regarding that specifically, it occurred exactly as one would expect in this situation and not really worth noting as a 'problem' because it isn't one.

Edited: 05/06/2021 at 10:26 AM by RiddleMe

BULLSHIT!

Fauci AND OTHERS have gone back and forth then back again THEN FORTH AGAIN THEN BACK YET AGAIN!!!!

All you are good at is LYING!



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Interesting, but I am not so sure that is valid.

It is generally a person's own immune system that causes severe symptoms because of the cytokine storm a strong immune response generates. So not having immune memory of the virus or similar enough viruses, like from other coronaviruses, combined with an overactive immune system was behind a lot of the severe illness. That's why steroids were given to people with severe illness, to tamp down their immune response.

Given the history of spread with the virus, it would seem that high viral loads in asymptomatic people could be achieved while generating little immune response in immune systems that couldn't recognize the virus? Its not like the virus itself is what killed most people.

Regardless, we will still be learning more about this virus for quite some time.

That's not bad, (IF your number of 250 is true) since the COVID strain has a MUCH higher transmissibility rate, and a MUCH higher mortality rate than the common flu.

This means that the protection by using masks is working.

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Sniper, FYI Measels, Mumps & Rubella (aka 'MMR' shots all my kids had) also does affect adults.. If I remember correctly Mumps is a real mofo if you are an adult.. Lots of other vaccs have shown up since my kids had theirs (I'm collecing grands at this point).. Also remember, DPT, polio, Hep B etc etc.. Think a malaria one is in the works.. Don't keep up with the required kiddie shots anymore.. The typical reason for a vaccine is to prevent the spread among civilised society of communicable or other diseases that fuck people up badly - be they spread by man, insects etc. So happens that this one is spread by man and it's primarily spread and affects resporatory functions - for a start, but has lots of other side affects.. . Having Chickenpox as a kid increases your chance of shingles as an adult.. Of course you can be a paranoid & irresponsible parent and skip the vaccs - & later your kids can get stuff as a kid - with more 'fun' to come as an adult..

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