WTF?!! https://mynews13.com/fl/orlando/space/2025/11/25/blue-origin-renews-permit-to-dump-500k-gallons-of-wastewater-daily-into-indian-river

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Waiting for waves is ok......most people spend their lives waiting for nothing.

http://mynews13.com/fl/orlando...aily-into-indian-river

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Florida has the dirtiest lake (Okeechobee), so why not match it with the dirtiest river?

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Funny that were still paying a 1/2 cent sales tax to clean up that mess. Maybe someone can tell me why billionaires can't clean up after themselves?

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That's a huge amount of water. I wonder if this is the deluge water used to dissipate heat & sound during launches.

Oculus is FDEPs online file system. It's public and you can search it but it's clunky. Not phone friendly so i may fire up the laptop to search. I think it may be Industrial Wastewater Permit FL0A00007. Oculus is here: https://depedms.dep.state.fl.u...itlist?action=goToPage

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Well, that didn't work. Tried to send the search that yielded that permit #. Hit the search tab on the oculus link and search wastewater permitting for Brevard. Draft permit for Blue on 10/27/25. I asked for a copy but no luck using phone.

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"Blue Origin OLS Manufacturing Complex currently operates facilities with an industrial wastewater discharge. The facilities dispense conditioned water to the North Campus stormwater management system which discharges to surface waters. The water, which contains wastewater related to industrial activities, is discharged to surface water to alleviate unnecessary burden on the sanitary sewer serving the facilities." Got it. Cooling water blowdown, water purification waste, more? The Complex is on Space Commerce Rd. Wastewater discharges to their onsite stormwater system that overflows to IRL. PM me an email address and I'll send you a copy.

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Tom

Really? This cannot be good.

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

It's not uncommon. Spacex has a similar permit for their manufacturing complex. Lots of negative comments and concerns at the public meeting during comment period a few years back. Didn't change a thing. $$$$$

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Just for fun, if Blue discharges total nitrogen at their permit limit (3mg/l) and flows 0.5mgd all year (they won't) that's about 4800 lbs of nitrogen a year. If you want to know how much it costs (you! 1/2 cent sales tax!) to keep that amount of nitrogen out of the IRL, take a look at the Save Our Indian River Lagoon project list. Ugh. https://www.brevardfl.gov/docs...pdf?sfvrsn=526fff29_13

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What's the raw water source, maybe seawater?
No salinity or resource impacts from withdrawal and discharges?

What's the industrial process, just cooling?
Or, are they picking up contaminants in their process?

Half a billion a day?!

At that level, it has to be ocean water. At a minimum, that means the salinity doesn't match that of the IRL. Now add contaminates.

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Too far from the ocean to be seawater i think. Well or potable. Don't see a consumptive use permit for well. Because they're cleaning it up, it's probably potable source. Wastewater Permit is written overcapacity (typical) so they will never have a discharge exceedence. Plus, if potable, half a million gals a day would be a pretty big water bill, even for a billionaire.

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They are pulling that much from a public source, then dumping it in the river?

I think excess salt would be better than chlorinated fresh water.

Aren't we already having water battles with Orlando in that area?


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Edited: 12/07/2025 at 12:17 PM by Cole

I think Cocoa's capacity is around 100-120 mgd. My guess is if they have a customer for another 0.5 mgd, they'll sell it to them.

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What are they using the water for in the first place? I understand cooling and whatnot during launches, but they don't launch on a daily basis. AI cooling? Robot army? WTF?

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Musk is the Devil incarnate ,When you really put this in perspective , for One Billionaire ( Perhaps the Worlds First Trillion air ? , after Elons & Trumps corrupt rape of our med care & tax dollars ... ) And mind you this is Just to soley satisfy Musks own ego to go to Mars is such Fucking insanity , Environmental consequences be damned !

Edited: 12/07/2025 at 09:46 PM by JOESTRUMMER

Joe, although i appreciate your passion, we're already a bit close to the edge of the surf page talking water quality. Don't get us sent to NSR detention hall. Besides, Bezos owns Blue. And Cole, it's Bezos' private indoor wave pool that uses all that water. He dumps the pool after each use to get the peepee out.

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Tom : My bad . I can not properly keep up with some of these threads. ---Or where in the form they actully belong ..... ( If an actual admin is actually present ,perhapes he can edit & do his job ? )

Edited: 12/08/2025 at 06:29 PM by JOESTRUMMER