07/23/2020 11:07 AM
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stokedpanda
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Cero and Spanish are on an entire other culinary level than Kingfish. The only good thing kingfish has going for it is size. It lacks in the taste department. It's a good smoking fish. Don't get me wrong, it's not bad and I'll eat it but it is just in the realm of bluefish, good but there is better in the ocean. And I'm not picky. I even keep ladyfish, lizard fish (charlie browns), and jacks. All 3 of which are better tasting than kingfish. BTW if you want a good ladyfish recipe, let me know. Holy moly, such good meat.
I would love to hear it, I read one about making fishballs but I cant remember what they did to avoid all those tiny ribs/pin bones.
One I have yet to try is Sailcats or any salt cat, I have seen catch and cooks but never hungry enough to try it
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07/24/2020 08:50 PM
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HAPDigital
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Originally posted by: stokedpanda
Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Cero and Spanish are on an entire other culinary level than Kingfish. The only good thing kingfish has going for it is size. It lacks in the taste department. It's a good smoking fish. Don't get me wrong, it's not bad and I'll eat it but it is just in the realm of bluefish, good but there is better in the ocean. And I'm not picky. I even keep ladyfish, lizard fish (charlie browns), and jacks. All 3 of which are better tasting than kingfish. BTW if you want a good ladyfish recipe, let me know. Holy moly, such good meat.
I would love to hear it, I read one about making fishballs but I cant remember what they did to avoid all those tiny ribs/pin bones.
One I have yet to try is Sailcats or any salt cat, I have seen catch and cooks but never hungry enough to try it
I haven't tried any of the catfish yet. I don't like that white jizzy slime that gets all over the boat. I had a friend that kept one once and that shit was all over my fishbox, pretty nasty. I'm sure once cooked they taste fine.
Anyway, yeah, you make fish balls or patties. I make the ladyfish like chicken nuggets. You filet the ladyfish with skin on etc and you take a spoon and scrape the meat down the lateral line and it comes of the stringy bones. Throw the clumps in a bowl. You'll need to get a bunch of ladyfish are a few big ones. After you make a big pile, basically ground raw fish, you spice it how you like it and and some egg and bread crumbs then make balls, patties or nuggets. I use a mock McDonalds chicken nugget recipe. Dude, you'd think they were chicken nuggets from McDonalds wiht the same rubbery texture. However, I'm sure way more healthy. LOL Ever since I've been keeping them I can't get them anymore. When I was throwing them back I'd catch tons and tons. But now I make these nuggets and I actually go out hunting for them. Crazy...
Edited: 07/24/2020 at 08:51 PM by HAPDigital
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07/25/2020 06:50 AM
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Plan B
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unless I reach a state of poverty / starvation, I'm not eating anything that is as slimy or smells as nasty as a sailcat btw.... I make similar "fish cakes" with bluefish / kings.... you can keep the ladyfish too....
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07/25/2020 08:26 AM
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HAPDigital
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Originally posted by: Plan B
unless I reach a state of poverty / starvation, I'm not eating anything that is as slimy or smells as nasty as a sailcat btw.... I make similar "fish cakes" with bluefish / kings.... you can keep the ladyfish too....
Your fishcakes are not like these. The ladyfish has a texture when cooked that is not like any other fish. It literally comes out like old school chicken nuggets and have little iron/fish flavor.
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07/28/2020 07:00 PM
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Cole
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I helped a couple of Thai guys load up on lady fish one night at inlet. They said they rolled the meat off of the fish with a pin - no bones - and then made fish balls with them.
Spanish are like salmon and salmon taste like shit. lol
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07/29/2020 07:51 AM
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HAPDigital
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Originally posted by: Cole
I helped a couple of Thai guys load up on lady fish one night at inlet. They said they rolled the meat off of the fish with a pin - no bones - and then made fish balls with them.
Spanish are like salmon and salmon taste like shit. lol
LOL I guess you don't like salmon. Aldi and Walmart sell a side of salmon that is outrageous for just 16-20 bucks. So good smoked.
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07/29/2020 07:23 PM
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Cole
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I snagged a salmon roll from my in-laws plate one night and damn near hurled. It's like you dried out some mullet skin with the slime still on it, then dunked it into some jack blood and finished rolling it with menhaden bloodline. 100% pukeolicious.
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07/30/2020 08:15 AM
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HAPDigital
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Originally posted by: Cole
I snagged a salmon roll from my in-laws plate one night and damn near hurled. It's like you dried out some mullet skin with the slime still on it, then dunked it into some jack blood and finished rolling it with menhaden bloodline. 100% pukeolicious.
Oh, sounds like you just had bad salmon. Also, raw and cooked are a completely different story. I tell you what, go buy one of those sides of salmon from aldi or walmart and brine it in salt, brown sugar, pepper and maple syrup for 8 hours minimum. Rinse it afterwards and pat it dry with a paper towel and let it sit in the fridge open air until it tacky to the touch then throw it on the smoker at 25-275 until internal temp is 137. Take that thing off and let it rest a little and tell me that aint good. Put it on some nice german rye with creme fraiche, onions and dill, even better.
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07/31/2020 06:12 AM
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TATTOO74
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Cole must have got hold of a rotten piece. Even all that smoking is unnecessary. We bake it in the oven with minimal flavoring and it's great. My 1.5yr old Son even likes it.
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07/31/2020 07:27 AM
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HAPDigital
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Originally posted by: TATTOO74
Cole must have got hold of a rotten piece. Even all that smoking is unnecessary. We bake it in the oven with minimal flavoring and it's great. My 1.5yr old Son even likes it.
Yeah, baked is fine too. I just throw it in my pellet smoker for an hour to get up to temp. The little bit of smoke just adds such a nice taste profile too it. Did one in the sous vide with rosemary, thyme and garlic, was also incredible.
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08/02/2020 10:07 AM
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Cole
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Oh, sounds like you just had bad salmon. Also, raw and cooked are a completely different story. I tell you what, go buy one of those sides of salmon from aldi or walmart and brine it in salt, brown sugar, pepper and maple syrup for 8 hours minimum. Rinse it afterwards and pat it dry with a paper towel and let it sit in the fridge open air until it tacky to the touch then throw it on the smoker at 25-275 until internal temp is 137. Take that thing off and let it rest a little and tell me that aint good. Put it on some nice german rye with creme fraiche, onions and dill, even better.
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Bleed them out and get them on ice right away. When you fillet them, skin them too, cut them into strips and don't leave the blood line in. They are great fried into fish fingers.
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08/02/2020 02:27 PM
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HAPDigital
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I hate to say it but you might be a Philistine.
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08/05/2020 06:20 AM
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Cole
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...and you might be right. lol
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