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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Obie, listen man, if you feel confident that you know how to interpret the data from VAERS and that the risk of the vaccine is greater than the benefit, then DON'T GET THE VACCINE.



We all got it and we're fine, but hey, we're probably in better shape than you. No worries. You're the smart guy, take care of yourself.



As for me I'll happily re-up on Moderna as soon as it's available to my cohort.


OBX posted a day or so ago that Holmes was flooded with thrombosis cases after the vaccinations started. LOL He never posted any actual evidence of this.

He posted that the vaccines have caused a rise of infections due to rise in vaccinations. He has yet to post a medical study done by medical professionals that show cause of infections due to rise in vaccinations.

I can go on and on. His "research" is all compiled of hearsay and out of context BS with no medical association backing at all.
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck Obie, listen man, if you feel confident that you know how to interpret the data from VAERS and that the risk of the vaccine is greater than the benefit, then DON'T GET THE VACCINE. We all got it and we're fine, but hey, we're probably in better shape than you. No worries. You're the smart guy, take care of yourself. As for me I'll happily re-up on Moderna as soon as it's available to my cohort.
And thats the whole point. I'll do me, you do you. However, don't you try and force your will onto me, and we'll be OK. Have you seen Moderna's stock since this whole thing started (go ahead, look it up)? They'd be happy to see you're on board for that 3rd jab. Probably so happy their laughing while holding hands with Pfizer and skipping to the bank.

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 09/22/2021 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by: OBX

Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Obie, listen man, if you feel confident that you know how to interpret the data from VAERS and that the risk of the vaccine is greater than the benefit, then DON'T GET THE VACCINE.



We all got it and we're fine, but hey, we're probably in better shape than you. No worries. You're the smart guy, take care of yourself.



As for me I'll happily re-up on Moderna as soon as it's available to my cohort.


And thats the whole point. I'll do me, you do you. However, don't you try and force your will onto me, and we'll be OK. Have you seen Moderna's stock since this whole thing started (go ahead, look it up)? They'd be happy to see you're on board for that 3rd jab. Probably so happy their laughing while holding hands with Pfizer and skipping to the bank.


Nobody is forcing it on you, just don't spread bad info like you are doing. Most of your nonsense is false and conspiracy theory.
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Originally posted by: OBX NOONE FINDS IT SCARY THAT DOCTORS GET CENSURED ON YOUTUBE?.
I find it annoying that the youtube alt-medicine people cry about censorship when they actively block dissenters on their channels and file complaints against skeptics that create videos debunking their baseless claims.
The vaccine carries with it risk, so does COVID. Its up to the individual to decide which risk they take. That is the whole argument being so eloquently danced around by you guys.
Hap put up specific numbers straight from VAERS.

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none of these get reported. And you all wonder why people don't trust Big Pharma, the Government,
From VAERS: "VAERS is co-managed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)." So, using government reported data from the government that people don't trust to say "none" is reported, even though you've correctly identified the government agency, VAERS (vaers.hhs.gov), it came from? You can't make this stuff up folks, humor at every turn!

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Originally posted by: tom

none of these get reported. And you all wonder why people don't trust Big Pharma, the Government,
From VAERS: "VAERS is co-managed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)." So, using government reported data from the government that people don't trust to say "none" is reported, even though you've correctly identified the government agency, VAERS (vaers.hhs.gov), it came from? You can't make this stuff up folks, humor at every turn!


They like the info when it is arranged in a way that seems to back their crazy view point. Put some red dots near the deaths and post mostly the deaths and disregard all the other info, call it "research".
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Originally posted by: OBX

Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Obie, listen man, if you feel confident that you know how to interpret the data from VAERS and that the risk of the vaccine is greater than the benefit, then DON'T GET THE VACCINE.

We all got it and we're fine, but hey, we're probably in better shape than you. No worries. You're the smart guy, take care of yourself.

As for me I'll happily re-up on Moderna as soon as it's available to my cohort.


And thats the whole point. I'll do me, you do you. However, don't you try and force your will onto me, and we'll be OK. Have you seen Moderna's stock since this whole thing started (go ahead, look it up)? They'd be happy to see you're on board for that 3rd jab. Probably so happy their laughing while holding hands with Pfizer and skipping to the bank.


Well since so far it's a socialist vaccine it's not costing me anything outright so that's fine.

As for you, yeah don't get it, fine with me. But if you share a space with others, they may take exception since you'd be putting them at risk.




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 09/22/2021 12:03 PM
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I just did some research and found a show with Michael Flynn claiming that 'they' were going to start hiding the vaccine in salad dressing. The show was also speaking highly of Vladimir Zelenko and offering free wealth consultations with Andrew Sorchini.

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Originally posted by: tom
none of these get reported. And you all wonder why people don't trust Big Pharma, the Government,
From VAERS: "VAERS is co-managed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)." So, using government reported data from the government that people don't trust to say "none" is reported, even though you've correctly identified the government agency, VAERS (vaers.hhs.gov), it came from? You can't make this stuff up folks, humor at every turn!
When I say "report", I'm referring to the Media. Go ahead and find me one article from CNN, MSNBC, ABC, or any other major network, discussing the side effects and/or cases of death due to vaccination. (And im not talking about a small blurb somewhere buried) The FACT is, they don't.

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Why would they? It would tend to be misunderstood by the general drooling public who are already running around eating heartworm pills.



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Originally posted by: OBX

Originally posted by: tom

none of these get reported. And you all wonder why people don't trust Big Pharma, the Government,
From VAERS: "VAERS is co-managed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)." So, using government reported data from the government that people don't trust to say "none" is reported, even though you've correctly identified the government agency, VAERS (vaers.hhs.gov), it came from? You can't make this stuff up folks, humor at every turn! [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG]


When I say "report", I'm referring to the Media. Go ahead and find me
one article from CNN, MSNBC, ABC, or any other major network, discussing the side effects and/or cases of death due to vaccination. (And im not talking about a small blurb somewhere buried) The FACT is, they don't.


They do report on it. However, it is completely not news worthy because the side effects rarely cause death. The percentage is extremely low and rare. Do you think the news would avoid a blockbuster story like a vaccine killing tons of people? NO they wouldn't.

You really are fearful of a vaccine that has a super low death rate, like almost 0% chance of dying. However, you are calling people scared of Covid, something that has an actual single digit number percentage chance of killing you, like 3% and an ever higher possibility of really fucking you up. LOL What a wacko.

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Aspirin has a higher yearly mortality rate than the covid vaccine. You can get aspirin over the counter lol
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: tom
none of these get reported. And you all wonder why people don't trust Big Pharma, the Government,
From VAERS: "VAERS is co-managed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)." So, using government reported data from the government that people don't trust to say "none" is reported, even though you've correctly identified the government agency, VAERS (vaers.hhs.gov), it came from? You can't make this stuff up folks, humor at every turn! [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG]
When I say "report", I'm referring to the Media. Go ahead and find me one article from CNN, MSNBC, ABC, or any other major network, discussing the side effects and/or cases of death due to vaccination. (And im not talking about a small blurb somewhere buried) The FACT is, they don't.
They do report on it. However, it is completely not news worthy because the side effects rarely cause death. The percentage is extremely low and rare. Do you think the news would avoid a blockbuster story like a vaccine killing tons of people? NO they wouldn't. You really are fearful of a vaccine that has a super low death rate, like almost 0% chance of dying. However, you are calling people scared of Covid, something that has an actual single digit number percentage chance of killing you, like 3% and an ever higher possibility of really fucking you up. LOL What a wacko.
Where have I said I'm afraid of the vaccine? Where have I adamantly suggested people not take it? I'd say its wacko to be so scared of something with a greater than 99% chance of survival (if you're healthy and under 65) enough that you'll actually start trusting the Government, Big Pharma, and the media. But....you're an useful idiot for the Oligarchy so its no shocker on that front.

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 09/22/2021 12:52 PM
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Hey dumba$$ who is afraid? Buy not getting vaxxed you can more easily infect others. You want to give it to your family? That's your business.

You want to spread it to other Americans? Now you are going full Qotard.
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Originally posted by: OBX

Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Originally posted by: OBX



Originally posted by: tom



none of these get reported. And you all wonder why people don't trust Big Pharma, the Government,
From VAERS: "VAERS is co-managed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)." So, using government reported data from the government that people don't trust to say "none" is reported, even though you've correctly identified the government agency, VAERS (vaers.hhs.gov), it came from? You can't make this stuff up folks, humor at every turn! [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG]




When I say "report", I'm referring to the Media. Go ahead and find me

one article from CNN, MSNBC, ABC, or any other major network, discussing the side effects and/or cases of death due to vaccination. (And im not talking about a small blurb somewhere buried) The FACT is, they don't.




They do report on it. However, it is completely not news worthy because the side effects rarely cause death. The percentage is extremely low and rare. Do you think the news would avoid a blockbuster story like a vaccine killing tons of people? NO they wouldn't.



You really are fearful of a vaccine that has a super low death rate, like almost 0% chance of dying. However, you are calling people scared of Covid, something that has an actual single digit number percentage chance of killing you, like 3% and an ever higher possibility of really fucking you up. LOL What a wacko.


Where have I said I'm afraid of the vaccine? Where have I adamantly suggested people not take it? I'd say its wacko to be so scared of something with a greater than 99% chance of survival (if you're healthy and under 65) enough that you'll actually start trusting the Government, Big Pharma, and the media. But....you're an useful idiot for the Oligarchy so its no shocker on that front.


I'd prefer not to have to "throw the kitchen sink at it" and look like a train hit me like Joe Rogan did. No thanks. Also, everyone I know that got covid prior to the vaccine had serious issues for a long time afterward, like loss of taste/smell and pains etc. It's beyond survivability rate. You are playing with fire if you think that small 3% is small.
I'd rather be a useful idiot than a straight up dumb fuck though.

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Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: tom
none of these get reported. And you all wonder why people don't trust Big Pharma, the Government,
From VAERS: "VAERS is co-managed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)." So, using government reported data from the government that people don't trust to say "none" is reported, even though you've correctly identified the government agency, VAERS (vaers.hhs.gov), it came from? You can't make this stuff up folks, humor at every turn! [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG]
When I say "report", I'm referring to the Media. Go ahead and find me one article from CNN, MSNBC, ABC, or any other major network, discussing the side effects and/or cases of death due to vaccination. (And im not talking about a small blurb somewhere buried) The FACT is, they don't.
They do report on it. However, it is completely not news worthy because the side effects rarely cause death. The percentage is extremely low and rare. Do you think the news would avoid a blockbuster story like a vaccine killing tons of people? NO they wouldn't. You really are fearful of a vaccine that has a super low death rate, like almost 0% chance of dying. However, you are calling people scared of Covid, something that has an actual single digit number percentage chance of killing you, like 3% and an ever higher possibility of really fucking you up. LOL What a wacko.
Where have I said I'm afraid of the vaccine? Where have I adamantly suggested people not take it? I'd say its wacko to be so scared of something with a greater than 99% chance of survival (if you're healthy and under 65) enough that you'll actually start trusting the Government, Big Pharma, and the media. But....you're an useful idiot for the Oligarchy so its no shocker on that front.
I'd prefer not to have to "throw the kitchen sink at it" and look like a train hit me like Joe Rogan did. No thanks. Also, everyone I know that got covid prior to the vaccine had serious issues for a long time afterward, like loss of taste/smell and pains etc. It's beyond survivability rate. You are playing with fire if you think that small 3% is small. I'd rather be a useful idiot than a straight up dumb fuck though.
Again, your choice. And by the way, it's less than 2% if you lump in over 65 and/or underlying issues. If you exclude them, it's closer to 1%. So yeah, take the chance with the vaccine to make the chance even lower, go for it. Don't force your fear into others who don't. Which again....is my whole point in all of this.

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Originally posted by: OBX

https://openvaers.com/covid-data/covid-reports?start=24 Yet, none of these get reported. And you all wonder why people don't trust Big Pharma, the Government, the Media, of the vaccine itself.


You are unable to make a link work on a forum, and don't know how to make

a

line

break

Yet, you expect us to listen to you over highly educated experts in the field of viruses and vaccinations?

yeah. OK.

Best of luck to you and yours in the coming months and years.







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Expand your horizons? I searched NPR and side effects. Probably plenty others I expect. Last one? https://www.npr.org/sections/g...-you-still-double-mask // https://www.npr.org/sections/h...ion-but-some-prefer-it // https://www.npr.org/2021/08/02...on-changes-post-vaccin

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Nikki Minaj says she heard from a friend's brother in barbados that it gives your balls a huge boost and there's no need to marry just one woman after that, or something like that. She has 20 million followers so the word is getting out about side effects and since she is a trusted source with a scientific background, its not a stupid dangerous rumor that endangers the lives of idiots that believe stupid shit from stupid people.

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Dr. Minaj giving out the latest "research"



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