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sandi

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Anyone using it with success?

Having problems with some injuries, including stenosis.

Do Gummies work?

I quit weed years ago, but I'll take any Pain relief I can get.

Thoughts?
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your kinda menstrual pain & such requires more than MJ
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Originally posted by: StirfryMcflurry

your kinda menstrual pain & such requires more than MJ


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Originally posted by: StirfryMcflurry

I get your kinda menstrual pain & such requires more than MJ. I usually need more attention. FK does the trick.


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Originally posted by: HAPDigital I get rent free. FK does the trick. [IMG][/IMG]
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Originally posted by: StirfryMcflurry



I get your kinda menstrual pain & such requires more than MJ. I usually need more attention. FK does the trick. [IMG][/IMG]


very immature and sexist.
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butt, it's the truth
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Originally posted by: StirfryMcflurry

butt, it's the truth


No, stenosis doesn't cause menstrual pain.

Does your wife have it often?

There's a message there.
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I've been growing for a while but don't smoke it. I do, however make Tincture, cookies, and a killer oil for the wife's arthritis.
I wish I could make the cbd gummis. That really works well on the aches if you have to function. little to no high.













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Originally posted by: SlimyBritches

I've been growing for a while but don't smoke it. I do, however make Tincture, cookies, and a killer oil for the wife's arthritis.

I wish I could make the cbd gummis. That really works well on the aches if you have to function. little to no high.




Thank you for the info...






















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spinal stenosis...lmao!
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

spinal stenosis...lmao!


yup.

accidents do happen.

chances are, you are an accident.

lol

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Originally posted by: sandi

Originally posted by: Fish Killer



spinal stenosis...lmao!




yup.



accidents do happen.



chances are, you are an accident.



lol


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Got my "card" last week, , , , , , , ,

The Doctor asked me the "why do you think you need it, , , ," questions so, I told him, , , , ,.

He was not impressed with my "first" case of non-germinal Diffuse Large B Cell Lymphoma in 2012 (that was 10 years ago).

He got interested when I told him that my lymphoma relapsed in 2017.

He gave me an "Oh" when I told him about my "first" Stem Cell Transplant in 2018.

Then I started to tell him about my MDS diagnosis in 2019 and the ensuing chemo, , , , , "More ?" !!! Yes! "Well, , , , , !!!"

THEN I told him about my second Stem Cell Transplant.

He asked "that's enough, you're not going to tell me about anything more, , , , , are you?" Nope, I hope that is it.

He told me that I'd been through enough and prescribed everything for me; bud, edibles and vape, at the max allowable amounts and strengths.

I feel SO MUCH better. The indicta vape at the end of the day is so calming.

I go to the Cannabist dispensary in Suntree.

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Know lots of people who successfully using for a long time.. Way better that the usual prescribed 'options' by fans of 'big pharma' - aka doctors..

FL needs to go full 'rec' especially including 'grow your own'.. Get big business out of the picture.. Don't bother, tax revenues will still be there.. Lots of people are too lazy or cant can't be bothered..

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I have stenosis among other things in my neck c3-7. Almost had surgery 10 yo, but got lucky and epidurals worked. As bad as it got I never went pain killer route. Alternative methods have helped when needed.

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That's what my mother does. The end of the day. She takes an edible and night night. She sleeps like a baby and is now a weed advocate. It seems like it's most effective as a sleep aid at the end of the day.

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Pot is for one thing only: to get high.
However an edible in the evening does make for a restful and enjoyable night.

Also provides some relief for PTSD

Should be legal everywhere

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Well yes, , , , ,

I do have a chocolate edible THC that has a lot of "RSO" oil in it.

By coincidence, , , , , 2 weeks ago I went to Fish Lips and the hostess struck up a conversation with me because of my F Cancer tee. She's a survivor and her bottom line was "us lots of RSO".

Then, the sales lady at Cannabist admitted to having loads of problems and now swears by RSO.

I'm a gonna do some book learnin.

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Originally posted by: jdbman

Pot is for one thing only: to get high.

However an edible in the evening does make for a restful and enjoyable night.



Also provides some relief for PTSD



Should be legal everywhere



PTSD???
maybe fk's wife beats him.

CAN YOU BLAME HER?
he should give it a try...

Laughing at trump.

LMAO!!!

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Originally posted by: sandi

Originally posted by: jdbman



Pot is for one thing only: to get high.



However an edible in the evening does make for a restful and enjoyable night.







Also provides some relief for PTSD







Should be legal everywhere






PTSD???

maybe fk's wife beats him.

he should give it a try...



Laughing at trump.



LMAO!!!


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An observation, , , , ,

I got an 1/8 oz of some quality bud, one noticeable thing right off the bat, , , , , ,. I rolled one up and the first thing was that I smelled/tasted the paper burning!

The buds are so fresh and clean that I do not smell/taste the dank harshness that comes with the "street" stuff that normally "hides" the burning paper.

I'm so relieved to be able to not have to "worry" about possessing "street drugs" anymore.

And, if you have never toked, , , , , , keep your comments to yourself, , , , you DO NOT KNOW what you are talking about.



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Up here in NMI it's full on rec...

So sticky - to roll anything you gotta cut it up small, let it air dry for a bit, and only roll loose.. Gums up still.. Best thing - very reasonably priced to say the least.. A fraction of what it was when it was 'medical'..

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keep your comments to yourself,
Ah, a challenge. Burning paper, huh? You're probably suffering from phantosmia. That can be caused by exposure to neurotoxins. Don't let me be a buzz kill though. Just trying to be helpful. Enjoy.

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tpap, take it you are not a toker - teetotaler then?

stay away from the evil shit bra.. pollutes your mind

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Originally posted by: surfsail tpap, take it you are not a toker - teetotaler then? stay away from the evil shit bra.. pollutes your mind
I am not a toker. Not my cup of tea. Beer is, however. In truth, I have no issue with people smoking weed.

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I drink too.. Just f'n with you... Beer makes me piss too much though - Was weaned on Carib & rum..

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Originally posted by: surfsail I drink too.. Just f'n with you... Beer makes me piss too much though - Was weaned on Carib & rum..
Age does no favors to pissing. Yet, some things are worth the trouble. Beer is one of the few of those things for me.

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Sorry, I did not mean to take on the tone that I did. Two things, , , ,

1. Talked with a lady and her husband at a Watering Hole the other week. A lot of "this and that" and then one of the TV's had a spot on about the Medical MJ laws, , , , ,. "Yes, this and that, , , , ,". The lady was pretty surprised and more-or-less asked what I was talking about. I explained and her idea about the "legal" MJ thing was that you would go to a Doctor's office or medical clinic and smoke there! She did not have an "attitude" but, for me it was the fact that she was so out of touch. She perhaps thought that there would be more "monitoring".

2. Well yep, ran into a Anti with the "Gateway Drug" ideas lodged in his brain and, to top it off, then came the Jesus, Satan, God, Demons, and what-nots. He DID NOT want to hear anything I had to say, , , , , , , (how could I, what would I, , , , the Demons already had me).

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I was just joshing with you. You have your toke, I'll have my sip, and we'll both be happier for it. That's a good thing.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

I was just joshing with you. You have your toke, I'll have my sip, and we'll both be happier for it. That's a good thing.


Compromise from the right? There is hope. USA USA USA!!!!!
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Originally posted by: tpapablo

keep your comments to yourself,


Ah, a challenge. Burning paper, huh? You're probably suffering from phantosmia. That can be caused by exposure to neurotoxins. Don't let me be a buzz kill though. Just trying to be helpful. Enjoy.


No, there actually was paper burning. When paper burns, it smells like burning paper.



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Originally posted by: Cole No, there actually was paper burning. When paper burns, it smells like burning paper.
it was a JOKE you fukkin dumbass! went right over yours AND dingsketche's heads LMAFO
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I've used it medically since I was a teen, with breaks when employers were assholes about it.
I've found lately that the intake levels required to help with chronic pain when it gets bad send me to the couch rather than desk.
But still, I had spinal fusion 6 months ago, it is helping me recover without opiates post surgery, and I'm able to work.

A pain Dr. I saw years ago had a sign that said "If Marijuana is medicine, then so is beer".
I told him I agreed
Beer is good medicine too.

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Positive test is still a fire able offense at work, prescription or not. Heck, I was worried about getting a random check after the Stephen Marley show.

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Same here, there are a lot of "have you ever" questions that have to be answered truthfully and a poly is always a possibility.
Doesn't matter if you lived in Amsterdam or Colorado or vacationed in places where it legal, for some jobs you just can't.

I'm ok with that, but also have nothing against MM and think it is stupid to have people doing 20 years for a small bag of grass.

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Originally posted by: tom
Positive test is still a fire able offense at work, prescription or not.


Originally posted by: Bamboo
Same here, there are a lot of "have you ever" questions that have to be answered truthfully and a poly is always a possibility.

Doesn't matter if you lived in Amsterdam or Colorado or vacationed in places where it legal, for some jobs you just can't.


The federal government and federally regulated employers in sensitive industries do not recognize state-level laws regarding "federally illegal" drugs.

FWIW, Marinol (dronabinol) is approved by the FDA, so if you have a legitimate medical need for THC, you can get a federally approved prescription for it.

Theoretically then, if you test positive for THC or certain metabolites from gummies or state-level dispensary products, but have a legit Rx for Marinol, you can try and play that card.

Down at the detailed level, tests can discern the difference between Marinol use and MMJ use, so if your employer really wants to push the issue, they can still bust you for the MMJ.

If it's only Marinol, certain employers might still have a problem with it, but if you're not high at work, they shouldn't. Hell, I was working on opioid pain meds after my shoulder surgeries, and the subject never came up.

If your employer is likely to have an issue, you can either ask HR, or just hope they never find out. The latter may be your only option, as typical HR departments aren't very accommodating or proactive when it comes to working out details of a new scenario.

If you do get in trouble at work (either for Marinol or MMJ), there would probably be more leniency based on legitimacy; e.g., you got the Rx for cancer rather than anxiety, and you got it from an oncologist rather than a chiropractor.

Several states have passed laws that prevent employers from taking action against you simply for having metabolites in your system if they can't prove active influence/intoxication at work. But some of those states still have exceptions that defer to federal law in federally regulated jobs.
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The Hill

Medical marijuana associated with reduced pain and opioid related outcomes in cancer patients

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Thu, December 1, 2022 at 11:26 AM


Marijuana for medical use has been legalized in many states.

Cancer patients in particular may benefit from medical marijuana for managing pain and symptoms.

An analysis of insurance claims suggests that the legalization of medical marijuana is associated with reduced opioid dispensing and pain-related hospital visits.

A new study finds a link between the legalization of medical marijuana and a reduction in the rate of opioid dispensing and pain-related hospital events in some cancer patients.

In a paper published in the journal JAMA Oncology, researchers look at insurance claims data from 2012 to 2017 for patients with breast, colorectal and lung cancers. Overall, they had data on nearly 60,000 patients between the ages of 18 and 64.

In 2012, there were 34 states where medical marijuana was not legalized. By 2017, 14 of them had implemented legalized medical marijuana. Another of the key changes was whether states allowed retail dispensaries, which increases availability and access.

For patients with lung cancer and recent access to opioids, medical marijuana legalization was associated with a reduction in pain-related hospital visits, from 19 to 13 percent. These reductions occurred soon after legalization.

For all types of cancer, the data also showed medical marijuana legalization was associated with a reduction in the rate of one or more days where the patient was in possession of prescription opioids during the first six months after diagnosis.

Medical marijuana legalization was associated with a 5 to 20 percent reduction in opioid dispensing after a new cancer diagnosis. Medical marijuana legalization accompanied by dispensary allowances was associated with a larger reduction in opioid dispensing compared with legalization without dispensaries.

One of the limitations of the study was a lack of data on clinician practices or patient use of medical marijuana. The authors point to recent surveys suggesting that there's a high level of interest in medical marijuana among cancer patients but low level of knowledge and variation in willingness to prescribe among physicians.

The data does not include people who do not use commercial insurance, and the results also do not include older adults and cannot be generalized to that age group.

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I sent my sister in Utah some cookies I made, for her birthday. On top of the package I wrote, "call before opening". I hadn't heard from her and the tracking said she'd received it. I finally called and she and her adult daughter opened and ate a couple each. I was only eating a quarter. My sister thought she was having an "episode" until the niece called telling her she thinks there's weed in it. Needless to say, they were high as hell for a long time. When she called, I said,"what did you not understand about "call before opening"?
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There is at least one oncologist in Melbourne who will prescribe MMJ and sign for the license.
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I'll tell you how well Mota works on ailments. My wife has Arthritis, fibro myalgia, and several other things that destroys tissues and bones. Her doc prescribed opioids as pain relief. That was when we were in Iraq and THEY were funding their war with heroin. After a while she was having problems, as all were, with them. She weened herself off by cutting the dose little by little, until she was off them completely. She used weed instead. It's God's gift
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