Shot down by fellow Democrats in spite of a brave fight from Bernie Sanders.

How it started: "Along with almost every other Democratic presidential hopeful, Joe Biden called for a $15 minimum wage during the 2020 campaign.

Biden said his administration would "increase the federal minimum wage to $15 across the country and eliminate the minimum tipped wage." "

How it's going: "White House press secretary Jen Psaki said President Biden and his team are not in conversations or negotiations about lowering the threshold for the minimum wage after the Senate voted against Sen. Bernie Sanders' amendment to raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour. "




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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Does anyone else find it odd that Florida bypassed the GOP governor, GOP state senate, GOP state house and got the 15 minimum wage passed with a constitutional amendment? The state Democratic Party didn't talk about and it passed under the radar. Now the rest of the nation is debating this and out very own Rubio snd scott are dead set against it. Meanwhile, the senator from the most depressed economy in the entire country, West Virginia, is against it.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

"White House press secretary Jen Psaki said President Biden and his team are not in conversations or negotiations about lowering the threshold for the minimum wage after the Senate voted against Sen. Bernie Sanders' amendment to raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour. "


This says they are sticking with the $15, does it not?

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I take it to mean that Biden was not in any conversations or negotiations to support Senator Sander's bill which would have waved the parliamentarian's objection to it's inclusion in the stimulus bill-

"The Senate voted 58 to 42 against an attempt to waive a procedural objection against adding the wage provision to the $1.9 trillion COVID-19 relief bill. The overwhelming vote raises doubts whether Biden will be able to raise the federal minimum wage to $15 at any point in his first term."

Basically Biden was silent as the Pugs and a handful of Dems basically tossed out one of his primary election promises. Am I wrong on that?

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Edited: 03/05/2021 at 12:34 PM by RustyTruck

I was hoping Biden would just Trump his all legislation and appointments through

The president doesn't control the money, congress does.

Is it worth the effort to include the $15 and have the whole bill fail or get one through and work on the next?

Democrats need more people in the Senate for there to be a chance at increasing the minimum wage. A direct 50-50 split won't work.

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Pugs would have got it done. Dems aren't good at politics.

He ran on 15/2000 and got zip/means tested 1400.

The promise he's living up to is
"nothing is going to fundamentally change"

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

The covid bill passed.
Biden is very, very good at the give and take in our system of governance.
Krusty sez the rechumpflicans would have passed it with the minimum wage thang?
That's a big fat nyetski.
The chumpfscum don't pass anything that doesn't enrich them and their fascist globalists. Period.
Biden has senator sanders onboard. And they will make steady incremental progress toward undoing the awful things done to our society and our economy.
Aka: effective mutual benefit governance. Instead of fucking obstruction of any and all improvements.

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It's a democratic hoax

The $15 would have failed, two Democrats planned to vote against it, as did all Republicans.

Democrats need more people in the Senate to take the WV clown out of the picture if there is to be any hope of an increased minimum wage.



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And you believe anything that psucky says!! Coleslaw award for gullibility!!

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Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18

What?



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Covid bill passes.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

I'm sure the voters will understand in 2022. I mean everyone knows campaign promises are bullshit, right?

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Was the fact that Bernie's amendment was shot down in the Senate Biden's fault?

I realize that most Americans don't pay much attention to what actually happens - you included - but a fact is a fact.

http://www.newsweek.com/11-hou...-senate-record-1574253

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From Politico: The White House said they were going to pass a $1.9 trillion package and then they did it," said Zac Petkanas, whose outside group, Invest in America, was formed to help Biden muscle the legislation through, and then continue to sell it. "They had a disciplined message, ignored Washington naysayers in order to speak directly to the American people, didn't buckle under pressure to cut some weak-kneed deal with Republicans and kept the Democratic caucuses united. That's some damn fine work."

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Bernie was the one willing to fight for 15. Maybe people will decide it wasn't that big a deal, who knows. But recall it was a campaign promise from all Dem candidates running in 2020.

"This reconciliation bill does not include an increase in the minimum wage to $15 an hour," Sanders said in a speech prior to the vote. "In my view, it should have. I think the parliamentarian was dead wrong, but more importantly, it is an absurd process that we allow an unelected staffer - somebody who works for the Senate not elected by anybody - to make a decision as to whether 30 million Americans get a pay raise or not."

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Bernie is full of hot greenhouse gas. That unelected parliamentarian didn't determine whether 30 million Americans get a pay raise or not; he simply determined that the Senate needed to follow its own rules. Bernie sounds like Trump, thinking he gets to bend rules to match his goals.

All the parliamentarian did was make sure that a piece of legislation that didn't belong in the bigger package wasn't there. There's nothing stopping Congress from taking it up in a proper bill later.

Even "that clown from WV" was on CNN yesterday saying he favored increases in the minimum wage, but $15/hr as a one-size-fits-all in this bill was not the answer. He knows that an immediate jump in states like his would not be sustainable. He favors tailoring the wage on a region-by-region basis, and then indexing increases to inflation.

Hell, I even voted for the FL $15 minimum out of charity, but was surprised to find my two youngest kids (18 and 20), who stood to gain a lot (if they remained employed), both voted against it. They perceived it would put bottom-end people out of work, and reduce the effective value of salaries for people who were already making $15-16/hour.

And you're also against means-testing of the stimulus checks? DUH. I thought the farthest-left extremists like you were all for means-testing Social Security payments.

The $1200 my family got in the first round of stimulus was absurd. I immediately donated it to a local charity, and am thankful to be in a position where I don't need the next rounds either.



Edited: 03/08/2021 at 09:16 AM by CurtisEflush

Means testing is a neo-liberal concept, designed to divide workers against one another. If you didn't need it and passed it along, then good for you. Others may not get it, and it will foster anger toward those who did.

The Senate parliamentarian is an advisor, and in this case a convenient "out" for Dems who want plausible deniability for not accomplishing the wage increase. They could literally change the rules of the Senate if they wanted to. But hey, if you're saying that the $15 wage is coming in some other bill, then let's wait and see.

I expect that the one promise Joe will live up to is "nothing will fundamentally change".

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Edited: 03/08/2021 at 11:49 AM by RustyTruck

Except for who's the president. I don't see him lasting another year.

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Hard to say, but I don't think he'll finish his term.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Damn russki thinks the $15 thing is over. Seriously comrade are you that obtuse?

Joe out thought and out politicallized your boy and Qrump at every turn. You think that's over for the QOP?

Jeez f-ing pay attention to something other than your youtube pinko feeds.

Edited: 03/08/2021 at 07:10 AM by Greensleeves

If they wouldn't come up with stupid ideas, they might make it into law. Simple as that.

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Joe did nothing but show up and have a pulse. You really are a fan boy aren't you? Obtuse indeed.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

You can see, perhaps, why I think progs are stupid.

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Qomrades Qsuq and Qrusski watching Qutube together.

Qrusski really thinks the $15 won't back in time to show Americans where the QOP is? Damn Qotard work on some reasoning skillz.



Edited: 03/08/2021 at 09:25 AM by Greensleeves

"I immediately donated it to a local charity" dude! Great people in this country thank you Curtis. Interesting about your kids votes. Didn't ask my daughters (close to same ages) how they went on it but will.

qrussqi horrified of Kamala. He hates all red blooded Americans.