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3rdworldlover

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He has his cult convinced the election is illegitimate.

http://www.vox.com/2020-presid...allenge-recount-biden

Donald Trump is trying to discredit an election he is losing
Joe Biden has won the presidency. But the current president of the United States, Donald Trump, is attempting a coup in plain sight. "I WON THIS ELECTION, BY A LOT!" he tweeted on Saturday morning. This came after he demanded that states cease counting votes when the total began to turn against him, after his press secretary shocked Fox News anchors by arguing that legally cast votes should be thrown out.

The Trump administration's current strategy is to go to court to try and get votes for Biden ruled illegitimate, and that strategy explicitly rests on Trump's appointees honoring a debt the administration, at least, believes they owe. One of his legal advisers said, "We're waiting for the United States Supreme Court - of which the President has nominated three justices - to step in and do something. And hopefully Amy Coney Barrett will come through."

If that fails, and it will, Mark Levin, one of the nation's most popular conservative radio hosts, is explicitly calling on Republican legislatures to reject the election results and seat Donald Trump as president anyway. After Twitter tagged the tweet as contested, Trump's press secretary weighed in furiously on Levin's behalf.

That this coup probably will not work - that it is being carried out farcically, erratically, ineffectively - does not mean it is not happening, or that it will not have consequences. Millions will believe Trump, will see the election as stolen. The Trump family's Twitter feeds, and those of associated outlets and allies, are filled with allegations of fraud and lies about the process (reporter Isaac Saul has been doing yeoman's work tracking these arguments, and his thread is worth reading). It's the construction of a confusing, but immersive, alternative reality in which the election has been stolen from Trump and weak-kneed Republicans are letting the thieves escape.
 11/10/2020 06:36 AM
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He's a joke and so are his dip$Hit supporters.
 11/10/2020 06:37 AM
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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover He has his cult convinced the election is illegitimate. http://www.vox.com/2020-presid...llenge-recount-biden Donald Trump is trying to discredit an election he is losing Joe Biden has won the presidency. But the current president of the United States, Donald Trump, is attempting a coup in plain sight. "I WON THIS ELECTION, BY A LOT!" he tweeted on Saturday morning. This came after he demanded that states cease counting votes when the total began to turn against him, after his press secretary shocked Fox News anchors by arguing that legally cast votes should be thrown out. The Trump administration's current strategy is to go to court to try and get votes for Biden ruled illegitimate, and that strategy explicitly rests on Trump's appointees honoring a debt the administration, at least, believes they owe. One of his legal advisers said, "We're waiting for the United States Supreme Court - of which the President has nominated three justices - to step in and do something. And hopefully Amy Coney Barrett will come through." If that fails, and it will, Mark Levin, one of the nation's most popular conservative radio hosts, is explicitly calling on Republican legislatures to reject the election results and seat Donald Trump as president anyway. After Twitter tagged the tweet as contested, Trump's press secretary weighed in furiously on Levin's behalf. That this coup probably will not work - that it is being carried out farcically, erratically, ineffectively - does not mean it is not happening, or that it will not have consequences. Millions will believe Trump, will see the election as stolen. The Trump family's Twitter feeds, and those of associated outlets and allies, are filled with allegations of fraud and lies about the process (reporter Isaac Saul has been doing yeoman's work tracking these arguments, and his thread is worth reading). It's the construction of a confusing, but immersive, alternative reality in which the election has been stolen from Trump and weak-kneed Republicans are letting the thieves escape.
Sounds like what the dems were doing in 2016, doesn't it? But there is one key diference, isn't there?

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 11/10/2020 06:44 AM
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Key Difference: The Trump campaign actually was full of criminals and was openly welcoming the foreign interference that actually occurred.
 11/10/2020 07:26 AM
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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover Key Difference: The Trump campaign actually was full of criminals and was openly welcoming the foreign interference that actually occurred.
Not according to multiple investigations. We shall if that is the case here. I see that you have gone over to the conspiracy nut side. Congratulations.

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 11/10/2020 06:48 AM
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Are his surrogates actually calling on GOP state legislatures to ignore the voice of the people and just appoint pro trump electors? If they did that would be the end of the country as we know it.


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 11/10/2020 07:17 AM
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I'm saving my judgment to see what the courts have to say. The media doesn't decide who wins an election.

In a football game, you wouldn't tell players to keep playing if flags are on the field during a critical play. You wouldn't tell the players to keep playing and you will come back in two weeks to review the play. You also wouldn't say, this year, we aren't going to stop the game at the end of the 4th quarter. Just keep playing until we tell you to stop.

It will all be litigated. The problem is that most of these details should have been ironed out well in advance of this election. If there were serious issues with the way votes were being counted then the count should have been stopped at that time until the issues were resolved.



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 11/10/2020 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by: Sniper I'm saving my judgment .. .
OH BOY! we all can't wait to hear that!
 11/10/2020 06:54 AM
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Dotards have always lived on Fantasy Island.. guess this is their new mental safe space

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 11/10/2020 07:24 AM
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That's not a flag on the field, it's a greasy McDonalds napkin.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpOnt1cByT4

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 11/10/2020 08:02 AM
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It's not serious, they know the silly lawsuits are all going to be dismissed as without grounds.
They just need to keep the base riled up in GA for a couple months.
Nothing does that belter these days than Trump lying loudly.

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 11/10/2020 08:06 AM
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Qniper, "It will all be litigated."

What the fuck you talking about Qotard? There isn't an "all". There isn't an "anything". There is what trump and the Qotard movement is. "Nothing"

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Kris Kobach

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The litigation threat was seen as a means. It has not produced any benefit to Trump. His lawyers have been been getting hammered by judges. All of this expensive too. It's not going to produce any benefit to Trump.

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 11/10/2020 09:53 AM
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http://www.npr.org/2020/11/10/...th-heres-what-they-ve

Here are the misfires.

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 11/10/2020 03:40 PM
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Their largest claim - 3,000 fake votes - is a complete farce. They are from out of state college students and out of state military. All are 100% legal.

People are sick of the Trump bullshit and this is only going to make it worse. Four years of crying wolf is getting ready to bite him in the ass.

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There are a lot of advantages to waiting until the evidence comes in. It is a good way to avoid of making a fool out of yourself. For good or ill, progs cannot seem to grasp this principle. And that is one reason why they are universally regarded as fools.

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Cole

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10 lawsuits have been thrown out. The smoking guns are wet paper towels. Trump is panicking in an effort to keep his fat dotard ass out of jail.

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 11/10/2020 04:10 PM
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But then we have Biden himslef admitting that he had the most extensive election fraud organization in the history of American politics. And, it looks like he was telling the truth for once.

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Biden has taken Georgia too, hence the in-fighting among Republicans. Some want to rig the results, some don't.

The mother fuckers need to be hanged for inciting insurrection.

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I have noticed interesting triangulation by FOX news. It is reluctantly pivoting to reality in most of its American properties like Murdoch is hedging. But Sky news Australia is full bore with the conspiracy theories which of course are playing 24/7 to the American audience via youtube. Getting a lot of Sky and OANN from my conservative friends and relatives.

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you know, if he was really worried about voter fraud he would set up some special commission to find and fight voter fraud. Maybe he could put Kris Kobach in charge.

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Trump should have been fired the day he said three million votes were fake. Imagine how well-off we would be right now had that happened.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo There are a lot of advantages to waiting until the evidence comes in. It is a good way to avoid of making a fool out of yourself. For good or ill, progs cannot seem to grasp this principle. And that is one reason why they are universally regarded as fools.
Why wait until the evidence comes in? Just declare that you are right and then refuse to look at any evidence or hear testimony from any witnesses. You know, kinda like the Senate Impeachment trial

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Originally posted by: all3
Originally posted by: tpapablo There are a lot of advantages to waiting until the evidence comes in. It is a good way to avoid of making a fool out of yourself. For good or ill, progs cannot seem to grasp this principle. And that is one reason why they are universally regarded as fools.
Why wait until the evidence comes in? Just declare that you are right and then refuse to look at any evidence or hear testimony from any witnesses. You know, kinda like the Senate Impeachment trial
Waiting for evidence to come in, uh huh. Has any of their evidence about anything ever come in?

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Originally posted by: scombrid

Originally posted by: all3

Originally posted by: tpapablo

There are a lot of advantages to waiting until the evidence comes in. It is a good way to avoid of making a fool out of yourself. For good or ill, progs cannot seem to grasp this principle. And that is one reason why they are universally regarded as fools.


Why wait until the evidence comes in? Just declare that you are right and then refuse to look at any evidence or hear testimony from any witnesses. You know, kinda like the Senate Impeachment trial


Waiting for evidence to come in, uh huh. Has any of their evidence about anything ever come in?


As of yesterday there wasn't a single certifiable case.



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All kinds of evidence out there. Don't mistake your ignorance for lack of evidence. Rocks, for example, don't know of any evidence that the earth is spherical. But that is irrelevant, isn't it?

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

All kinds of evidence out there. Don't mistake your ignorance for lack of evidence. Rocks, for example, don't know of any evidence that the earth is spherical. But that is irrelevant, isn't it?


Qvidence. lol



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Originally posted by: tpapablo

All kinds of evidence out there. Don't mistake your ignorance for lack of evidence. Rocks, for example, don't know of any evidence that the earth is spherical. But that is irrelevant, isn't it?

Maybe rocks don't, piggy. But, to a trained geologist, they provide ample information.
But then, that implies being smarter than the subject under study........weeeee!


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Gee - how qotards have done a 180 from 2016. Qotards live in the land of hypocrisy

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Trump won by what, 70,000 total votes across the country and lost by three million in the popular vote? And yet there was a smooth transition of power.

Now Trump has lost by 200,000 across the country and five million in the popular vote and he will refuse to leave the WH at all?

Sick of this guy yet?

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 11/11/2020 05:48 AM
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He does not have the intelligence, temperament, nor inclination to truly lead the USA.

What he is doing now will change nothing as far as the election results.
All of his current antics are theater to create chaos and a brand for him and his family after he gets kicked out of the WH.

I never thought I'd ever see anything like this in my lifetime.
What a horrible example he and his clan is for our children. I'll toss in our GOP leadership, too. They as a group have been a huge disappointment.

It is just FK'ing sad.



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Originally posted by: Bamboo He does not have the intelligence, temperament, nor inclination to truly lead the USA. What he is doing now will change nothing as far as the election results. All of his current antics are theater to create chaos and a brand for him and his family after he gets kicked out of the WH. I never thought I'd ever see anything like this in my lifetime. What a horrible example he and his clan is for our children. I'll toss in our GOP leadership, too. They as a group have been a huge disappointment. It is just FK'ing sad.
Rioting, assaulting police and innocent bystanders. destroying property, looting, making up false Russian collusion to destroy a president, calling people with whom you disagree Nazis, are great examples for our children?

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: Bamboo

He does not have the intelligence, temperament, nor inclination to truly lead the USA.



What he is doing now will change nothing as far as the election results.

All of his current antics are theater to create chaos and a brand for him and his family after he gets kicked out of the WH.



I never thought I'd ever see anything like this in my lifetime.

What a horrible example he and his clan is for our children. I'll toss in our GOP leadership, too. They as a group have been a huge disappointment.



It is just FK'ing sad.

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Rioting, assaulting police and innocent bystanders. destroying property, looting, making up false Russian collusion to destroy a president, calling people with whom you disagree Nazis, are great examples for our children?


Twrongz nailin it!

My good pal Kim Jong! lol

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Drafted out kicking and screaming "who's going to pay for my golf," or retreating to maralago to shut the world out after losing to the "worst candidate ever" in the history of politics? It won't matter. Tweet all he wants, he's not out duly elected leader anymore and only his fact challenged fan boys care now. The oxygen for his desperate need to have everyone's attention all the time is being sucked from him. Fox and OAN may even have to compete with him, which means they will far more likely to report on new people and he will be relegated to old news. A competitor slinging their brand of shit will not play well.

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 11/11/2020 06:38 AM
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Trump can reap a nice profit from his faithful. Trump Steaks might actually work this time. Hell, maybe another casino.

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 11/11/2020 10:22 AM
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Lol yeah no kidding.. THIS TIME they're all about hearing from witnesses.

Dotards, this is your bed.

You got behind a clown, now enjoy the clown show.. in all it's grand finale



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 11/11/2020 11:18 AM
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Damn tspank is a fucking a-hole
 11/11/2020 11:19 AM
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Four people died in Benghazi and they spent how much time and energy? The evidence of fraud is largely relegated to the possibility of fraud, the reluctance to believe that they could lose and the ability to believe their own bs. These people can't be trusted to think with their heads when their hearts are broken.

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so sad..

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