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Topic Title: Universal health care sure as hell didn't bankrupt Sweden and Denmark.... Topic Summary: But they don’t have an inflated Military budget Created On: 02/17/2020 02:11 PM |
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- villageidiot | - 02/17/2020 02:11 PM |
- nukeh2o | - 02/17/2020 02:38 PM |
- tpapablo | - 02/17/2020 03:28 PM |
- nukeh2o | - 02/17/2020 03:55 PM |
- cheaterfiveo | - 02/17/2020 05:23 PM |
- nukeh2o | - 02/17/2020 06:06 PM |
- Cole | - 02/18/2020 03:13 AM |
- Sniper | - 02/18/2020 05:14 AM |
- wtf | - 02/18/2020 05:24 AM |
- RegularJoe | - 02/18/2020 06:58 AM |
- wtf | - 02/18/2020 07:19 AM |
- tpapablo | - 02/18/2020 07:42 AM |
- wtf | - 02/18/2020 08:20 AM |
- tpapablo | - 02/18/2020 11:04 AM |
- wtf | - 02/18/2020 11:12 AM |
- tpapablo | - 02/18/2020 11:32 AM |
- RegularJoe | - 02/18/2020 08:46 AM |
- Sniper | - 02/18/2020 05:25 AM |
- tpapablo | - 02/18/2020 06:54 AM |
- WG | - 02/18/2020 06:54 PM |
- Fish Killer | - 02/19/2020 03:41 AM |
- dingpatch | - 02/19/2020 03:56 AM |
- Fish Killer | - 02/19/2020 03:58 AM |
- dingpatch | - 02/19/2020 04:00 AM |
- Cole | - 02/19/2020 04:06 AM |
- tpapablo | - 02/19/2020 08:33 AM |
- cheaterfiveo | - 02/18/2020 01:58 PM |
- SlimyBritches | - 02/17/2020 04:53 PM |
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02/17/2020 02:11 PM
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And according to Laura Ingraham, the same "demographics " as the US, code for unproductive minorities,,,,
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02/17/2020 02:38 PM
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Those countries also don't have lying media outlets controlled by big pharma, big medicine, and russian botaganda.
Doubt they are cursed by lush pillbaugh, bleitfart, or hallucinating fat info alex types Oh: and they're educated and enlightened..... ------------------------- It's a democratic hoax Edited: 02/17/2020 at 02:42 PM by nukeh2o |
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02/17/2020 03:28 PM
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Why go with a system from countries that haven't done anything on the world stage since the Vikings were terrorizing the world? Our system has obviously worked better than theirs.
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02/17/2020 03:55 PM
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Why go with a system from countries that haven't done anything on the world stage since the Vikings were terrorizing the world? Our system has obviously worked better than theirs. Indeed, my man..... jojahstans contributions to the international order are quite a bit greater than the wonderful, enlightened, never conquered countries of Scandinavia, huh pig poop compost mogul? Like for example: goobers! Billy beer! Pigblo and swishyfish comedy duo! Then theres ........ duuhhh.......... ------------------------- It's a democratic hoax Edited: 02/17/2020 at 03:56 PM by nukeh2o |
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02/17/2020 05:23 PM
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Those countries also don't have lying media outlets controlled by big pharma, big medicine, and russian botaganda. Doubt they are cursed by lush pillbaugh, bleitfart, or hallucinating fat info alex types Oh: and they're educated and enlightened..... yeah countries with 53 people, its real hard to do |
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02/17/2020 06:06 PM
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Those countries also don't have lying media outlets controlled by big pharma, big medicine, and russian botaganda. Doubt they are cursed by lush pillbaugh, bleitfart, or hallucinating fat info alex types Oh: and they're educated and enlightened..... yeah countries with 53 people, its real hard to do or a pasture with 53 sheep.... that one's a winkin at you sheepshit! shaawiinngg! mmmbaaahhhaaaahhh......... ------------------------- It's a democratic hoax |
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02/18/2020 03:13 AM
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Why are Republicans so dead set at paying more for healthcare? Not only that, why they are dead set at wanting everyone to pay more for healthcare?
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02/18/2020 05:14 AM
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I'm not sure anyone is dead set on everyone paying more for healthcare. It comes down to whether or not we want the government in charge of managing our healthcare and being able to decide who gets treated.
How many people do you hear raving about the service they receive at VA clinics around the country? If you are looking for customer service and efficiency, are you going to ship something using FedEx, UPS, or the USPS? Look at the advancements SpaceX and others have made in our space program in the short time they have been involved. If you want the healthcare industry to be agile and innovative then keep it private and encourage competition. What good is cheaper care if the care is shit? ------------------------- "The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama “End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden |
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02/18/2020 05:24 AM
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I'm not sure anyone is dead set on everyone paying more for healthcare. It comes down to whether or not we want the government in charge of managing our healthcare and being able to decide who gets treated. So you are perfectly okay with the big insurance companies doing that? Because that's what is going on. Your doctor can only do that which is dictated by insurance companies, that's fucked. ------------------------- QOP = Terrorists FK = Gay |
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02/18/2020 06:58 AM
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Your doctor can only do that which is dictated by insurance companies, that's fucked. Not entirely true. You can also pay for yourself, and often get a discounted rate. If you're not paying $12K/year in premiums and $7K in deductibles, you can save up a lot of money for when you need it. |
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02/18/2020 07:19 AM
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Your doctor can only do that which is dictated by insurance companies, that's fucked. Not entirely true. You can also pay for yourself, and often get a discounted rate. If you're not paying $12K/year in premiums and $7K in deductibles, you can save up a lot of money for when you need it. What I said is entirely true. Doctors have to clear with insurance companies recommended tests/procedures. Doctors themselves are saying this - and they hate it. It's one reason why we have a decline in general healthcare Dr's. I found out it is $200 cheaper for me to pay for an MRI out of pocket than it is through my insurance. Beachside Imaging. I am paying over 12k/year with 5k in deductibles. That's fucked. ------------------------- QOP = Terrorists FK = Gay |
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02/18/2020 07:42 AM
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Cancel your insurance, dumbass. Then you won't be getting f'd. Don't know you progs even survive. C
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02/18/2020 08:20 AM
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Cancel your insurance, dumbass. Then you won't be getting f'd. Don't know you progs even survive. C Yeah, that's smart w/3 kids. Another dotard answer... ------------------------- QOP = Terrorists FK = Gay |
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02/18/2020 11:04 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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02/18/2020 11:12 AM
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Cancel your insurance, dumbass. Then you won't be getting f'd. Don't know you progs even survive. C Yeah, that's smart w/3 kids. Another dotard answer... Well, if it is smart to have health insurance, what are you complaining about? Jeez, you millennials just like to complain. Get your act together and act like a man, son. Thanks for the compliment but not that young. 12k with a 5k deductible is highway robbery. And btw, I do better than most. Tired of being robbed by these politicians you dotards continue to support. ------------------------- QOP = Terrorists FK = Gay |
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02/18/2020 11:32 AM
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Glad to hear that you are doing well. No one wants to pay $12 - 17k if they can avoid it. What does a 50% tax rate do you though? If you are doing well, that extra tax payment will be more than $17k.
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02/18/2020 08:46 AM
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What I said is entirely true. Doctors have to clear with insurance companies recommended tests/procedures. Doctors themselves are saying this - and they hate it. It's one reason why we have a decline in general healthcare Dr's. No, that makes your statement partially true, not entirely true. I deal with a couple doctors who operate either partially or entirely outside the insurance system. The level of obstructionist involvement also depends on insurance company. Blue Cross / Blue Shield notoriously bad about that. Yes, a lot of this stuff is f'ed royally. I'll try to elaborate after work. But a complete government takeover that bans private insurance or similar care outside the system is not a workable answer. Edited: 02/18/2020 at 09:28 AM by RegularJoe |
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02/18/2020 05:25 AM
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Also, Denmark and Sweden have a much flatter tax code. In Denmark, you are basically taxed 60% on anything over $60,000. Good luck getting the middle class to sign up for that.
------------------------- "The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama “End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden |
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02/18/2020 06:54 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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02/18/2020 06:54 PM
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I'm not sure anyone is dead set on everyone paying more for healthcare. It comes down to whether or not we want the government in charge of managing our healthcare and being able to decide who gets treated. How many people do you hear raving about the service they receive at VA clinics around the country? ----- At least one. If you are looking for customer service and efficiency, are you going to ship something using FedEx, UPS, or the USPS? --- USPS is competitive, often cheaper Look at the advancements SpaceX and others have made in our space program in the short time they have been involved. -- a perfect example of how smart government spending can spur industry If you want the healthcare industry to be agile and innovative then keep it private and encourage competition. -- wrong, there is little competition now, little choice. What good is cheaper care if the care is shit? -- it will be the same damn doctor and nurses, why would the fact that their paycheck comes from one place or another mean they suddenly turn to shit people? you think they will miss being dictated to by insurgence bureaucrats? Your arguments are weak. ------------------------- "The truth is incontrovertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill Edited: 02/18/2020 at 06:55 PM by WG |
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02/19/2020 03:41 AM
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1) -- it will be the same damn doctor and nurses, 2) why would the fact that their paycheck comes from one place or another mean they suddenly turn to shit people? 1) No...in fact it wont! 2) Only the worst ones will stay as they figure that any paycheck is better than no paycheck! The best ones will leave! There will be no more competition for 'who is the best'...or most innovative.... as the best get paid THE MOST (now)! That wont happen with your bullshit government healthcare system. ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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02/19/2020 03:56 AM
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But, then again, , , , , Denmark and Sweden are not known to "defend the world"??!!
I'm not too excited about being the World's Police, and would rather have it any other way but, what are we to do? Let the Taliban have Afghanistan. Let who-ever rape and pillage in Yemen? Let the BooBoo's kill off all the MooMoos in Nigeria?, etc. If we don't do it, who will? And, if nothing else we must STOP being the World's "Corporate Defenders". Reduce our military presence around the world and make it very clear that if ANYBODY F's with us will kill them to a man and drive their wives and children before us. I DO NOT believe that "Collateral Damage" is a valid concern. ------------------------- Dora Hates You |
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02/19/2020 03:58 AM
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I DO NOT believe that "Collateral Damage" is a valid concern. The Geneva Convention does.... ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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02/19/2020 04:00 AM
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I don't. I'm with Conan the Barbarian on this one.
------------------------- Dora Hates You |
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02/19/2020 04:06 AM
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We controlled a large swath of Syria with 38 soldiers; far less violence, people living a regular life, no Russians and no Syrian government troops. Now it is fucking chaos and we have no say in the matter. We get the last say throughout a large part of the world because we hold control through soft power. How Trump and his voters don't see this as a positive for all involved is beyond me??
------------------------- I was right. Edited: 02/19/2020 at 04:07 AM by Cole |
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02/19/2020 08:33 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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02/18/2020 01:58 PM
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Those countries also don't have lying media outlets controlled by big pharma, big medicine, and russian botaganda. Doubt they are cursed by lush pillbaugh, bleitfart, or hallucinating fat info alex types Oh: and they're educated and enlightened..... yeah countries with 53 people, its real hard to do or a pasture with 53 sheep.... that one's a winkin at you sheepshit! shaawiinngg! mmmbaaahhhaaaahhh......... what script is it that you take from your old lady? |
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02/17/2020 04:53 PM
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