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Topic Title: Area 142
Topic Summary: City of Cocoa Beach singlehandedly destroying City's progress
Created On: 06/05/2023 11:34 AM
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 Area 142   - RustyTruck - 06/06/2023 07:15 AM  
 Area 142   - Central Floridave - 06/06/2023 07:49 AM  
 Area 142   - FloridianSoul - 06/07/2023 05:12 AM  
 Area 142   - garcia - 06/07/2023 05:35 AM  
 Area 142   - RustyTruck - 06/07/2023 05:58 AM  
 Area 142   - StirfryMcflurry - 06/07/2023 04:13 PM  
 Area 142   - waterlizard25 - 06/09/2023 06:37 AM  
 Area 142   - Central Floridave - 06/10/2023 08:25 AM  
 Area 142   - garcia - 06/10/2023 08:46 AM  
 Area 142   - tom - 06/15/2023 09:59 AM  
 Area 142   - Central Floridave - 06/10/2023 09:40 AM  
 Area 142   - garcia - 06/11/2023 06:15 AM  
 Area 142   - Central Floridave - 06/15/2023 06:41 AM  
 Area 142   - 426Blue - 06/15/2023 09:06 AM  
 Area 142   - garcia - 06/15/2023 09:17 AM  
 Area 142   - RustyTruck - 06/15/2023 11:56 AM  
 Area 142   - Cole - 06/20/2023 05:34 AM  
 Area 142   - StirfryMcflurry - 06/20/2023 07:40 AM  
 Area 142   - garcia - 06/20/2023 07:49 AM  
 Area 142   - 426Blue - 06/20/2023 12:01 PM  
 Area 142   - StirfryMcflurry - 06/20/2023 01:12 PM  
 Area 142   - jdbman - 07/22/2023 02:36 PM  
 Area 142   - Cole - 06/20/2023 08:37 PM  
 Area 142   - waterlizard25 - 06/27/2023 01:06 PM  
 Area 142   - Cole - 06/27/2023 07:50 PM  
 Area 142   - FloridianSoul - 07/16/2023 04:51 PM  
 Area 142   - Central Floridave - 07/22/2023 09:21 AM  
 Area 142   - FloridianSoul - 07/24/2023 08:17 AM  
 Area 142   - Central Floridave - 10/04/2023 09:56 AM  
 Area 142   - 426Blue - 10/04/2023 11:15 AM  
 Area 142   - Central Floridave - 10/04/2023 12:17 PM  
 Area 142   - dingpatch - 10/04/2023 05:15 PM  
 Area 142   - Cole - 10/05/2023 06:31 AM  
 Area 142   - Central Floridave - 10/05/2023 11:15 AM  
 Area 142   - fishkller - 10/06/2023 11:17 AM  
 Area 142   - Cole - 10/08/2023 10:23 AM  
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 06/05/2023 11:34 AM
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426Blue

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Was pretty encouraged over Cocoa Beach's improvements over past several years -widened sidewalks, more pedestrian and bike friendly, some new interesting businesses. All that progress has been destroyed with Area 142's daily and nightly wall of noise. Why is the City letting one business monopolize and dominate an entire downtown? No longer can you visit or hang out in downtown Cocoa Beach outdoors, or even indoors, or for that matter live within a 1/2 mile of downtown, without hearing the garbage coming out of Area 142 on a regular basis - Thurs. - Sun. constant. Looks terrible as well - like a combination of a putt putt golf course, Chuckey cheez, and a discount cruise ship. I hate to sound like a grumpy old person and I'm all for promoting live music, but this is place is bad news. Can only assume that the City, once again, put more stock in one entity's business venture, than their residents. If the City made promises to this nuisance Area 142 cesspool, they should either start retaining aggressive lawyers, or break out their checkbook, and get rid of Area 142 ASAP. I would not visit downtown Cocoa Beach as long as Area 142 exists - the entire downtown area is now pretty much unusable, particularly Thurs. - Sun.
 06/05/2023 05:31 PM
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Cole

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Poor location for sure, but I am guilty of participating. Pato Banton was a lot of fun. I do see your point though. It's tacky as hell.

I'm betting the million dollar condos just up the road will kill this faster than Florida can kill it's environment.

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 06/06/2023 07:15 AM
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"Putt putt golf course"



Spot on

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 06/06/2023 07:49 AM
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Central Floridave

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I noticed they turned down the music last weekend. I've been keeping up with the noise ordinances and watching the city commish meetings.

It's interesting. Some people love it, some hate it Area 142. It's pretty fun place and the food is great. I like it brings a crowd, but I benefit from it being in a local bar band. I'd hate to live next to all the commotion.

Hope they figure it out. Last CB commish meeting they were going to give Area 142 one more month before the ban hammers start coming down.
 06/07/2023 05:12 AM
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The place looks like crap. It's too bad the city didn't require to do it tastefully. If the city's goal was to try and bring in riff raff than mission accomplished. I watched all this happen on Ft Lauderdale beach when I was growing up with the development of Beach Place.....I'm all for smart redevelopment, but this is a disaster in the making.

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 06/07/2023 05:35 AM
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garcia

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Get used to it. The local govt "leaders" on the mainland are hell bent on turning us into South Florida. Look at what is happening in Melbourne and Palm Bay. I just don't get why they and their ilk want to live in such a place. Of course, all of these transplants will want to go to the beach and we beachsiders will bear the brunt. I hate trying to cross Melbourne and I now hate driving A1A. Those of us who were grew up here in the 50s and 60s got the best of it. But, like crabs in the pot, they are raising the temp so slowly that people don't notice.
 06/07/2023 05:58 AM
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"You should have been here yesterday" -

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 06/07/2023 04:13 PM
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Sounds like some drama in the ole "we like to drink , fish, and constantly remodel our bathrooms" town. Surfing used to happen there, too.

Edited: 06/07/2023 at 04:14 PM by StirfryMcflurry
 06/09/2023 06:37 AM
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waterlizard25

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Ahh the good ol days
 06/10/2023 08:25 AM
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Central Floridave

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My band played at ye olde Johnathan's Pub last Saturday night. They gave me a Brassy's Reunion T-shirt. Ah....*flashback* warning...I remember in the 80s getting the fresh squezed screwdrivers pre-and-post Brassy's rock concerts...To last weekend...I'm now on the stage...turn the page... LOL.
 06/10/2023 08:46 AM
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Last time I was in Jonathan's (a few years ago), I was driven out by the smoking. I was really jonesing for a fresh Grapefruit and Vodka, too, but, dang, the smoke was BAD. I used to love that bar, but can't take the smoke anymore.
 06/15/2023 09:59 AM
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"Lemme tell youse how we did dis back in ..." pick your favorite. If it was so good there, why are you here? Just go back. Soon!!!

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 06/10/2023 09:40 AM
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Central Floridave

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New owner of Johnathan's upgraded the AC and kicked the smokers out a few years ago. It is smoke free now. Except for my fog machine the air is clean. I agreed it was nasty in there. Thank gawd smoking inside is no longer cool and now illegal.
 06/11/2023 06:15 AM
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Good, no, GREAT, to know. As I said, I used to love that bar. I am seldom in CCB anymore, but will remember that. Thanks.
 06/15/2023 06:41 AM
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Loud music disturbing Cocoa Beach residents

https://www.fox35orlando.com/v...oKCunhhDvqhfFsLIx7gl-4
 06/15/2023 09:06 AM
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426Blue

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Good little clip. Thanks. Funny how the Area 142 owners, and that other bar owner interviewed, think that if City changes the time in the noise ordinance from 11PM to 9PM, it will kill the City's economy. I guess the Area 142 owners weren't aware that downtown CB was a much better place to visit and hang out, before they setup shop. Area 142's a public nuisance way before 9PM. Once again, 1 or 2 business, employing a handful a people at unliveable wages think they're the lifeblood and savior of a town.
 06/15/2023 09:17 AM
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garcia

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Her accent doesn't sound like she's from CCB ("what are we gonna do? This is Cocoa Bch.") As a 67 yr resident of Brev Co., it never ceases to amaze me how many people move here and then try to change it. "I'm here now and the rules are different."
 06/15/2023 11:56 AM
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The wife beater/gold chain/indoor sunglass quotient has risen exponentially.

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 06/20/2023 05:34 AM
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Cole

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The giant stage is now gone and there was a more or less empty Jamaica Me Crazy Sunday night. Times are changin for sure.

I still can't understand how that chunk of land on the busiest corner in Cocoa Beach isn't worth more than artificial grass and mega beer pong? The whole thing is just weird.

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 06/20/2023 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck The wife beater/gold chain/indoor sunglass quotient has risen exponentially.
what are the consequences of unchecked tourism for $200, Alex?
 06/20/2023 07:49 AM
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Answer - It is a showplace for tackiness and fake tropicana
Question - What is Margaritaville
 06/20/2023 12:01 PM
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I agree Cole - would be interesting to know what the hell kind of deal the 142 degenerate, tasteless owners got, whether in form of a lease or sale. Hopefully, they'll be gone soon, and someone with some taste and decency will put the place to better use. And did the City agree to the green outdoor rug spread over the entire place? WTF Maybe the City should invest in itself, purchase property, turn into a community center, catering to art and music. Oh...I forgot - the City's no. one criteria for approving anything is: will cruise ship customers flock here in droves to get drunk? Second criteria - the business must be adverse to permanent long term residents' interests. I'll never understand commissioners' unwavering commitment to the whims of businesses, catering to tourists. Nearly every time I hear a quote from commissioners or the mayor, they go out of there way to assure the public how pro-business they are. They still haven't figured out that when you focus on making a community into a place where people want to live, and can live, long term, it brings quality businesses in by default.
 06/20/2023 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by: 426Blue I agree Cole - would be interesting to know what the hell kind of deal the 142 degenerate, tasteless owners got, whether in form of a lease or sale. Hopefully, they'll be gone soon, and someone with some taste and decency will put the place to better use. And did the City agree to the green outdoor rug spread over the entire place? WTF Maybe the City should invest in itself, purchase property, turn into a community center, catering to art and music. Oh...I forgot - the City's no. one criteria for approving anything is: will cruise ship customers flock here in droves to get drunk? Second criteria - the business must be adverse to permanent long term residents' interests. I'll never understand commissioners' unwavering commitment to the whims of businesses, catering to tourists. Nearly every time I hear a quote from commissioners or the mayor, they go out of there way to assure the public how pro-business they are. They still haven't figured out that when you focus on making a community into a place where people want to live, and can live, long term, it brings quality businesses in by default.
are you new? FLA , esp Brevard has been goin that way since...uhhh forever
 07/22/2023 02:36 PM
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So really, Cocoa Beach? This is the best we can do for the premier parcel of real estate downtown?! Totally destroying the cool vibe downtown was developing.
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 06/20/2023 08:37 PM
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Several years ago the town was freaking out over the rambunctious weekend revelers and took steps to shut them down. There was even a big push to ban drinking on the beach. Now this? I totally agree, WTF?

I did see an ultra gorgeous female doing some sort of sexy dance on a post just inside the area, and I wanted to be offended.

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 06/27/2023 01:06 PM
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Its been a long time coming but welcome to the shit show boys and girls. Used to be a ghost town, even the early 2000s no one cared about downtown cocoa beach area except Coconuts.. it was legit dead but peaceful as we liked. 30+ years later every piece of land beachside is flattened. Condos, Narrow Lot Houses and bars are all that matter. Just wait until Sat Beach has the resort done. HAH! Melbourne Margaritaville on the river.. Hah! 528 East coming into Cape Canav there was hoards of Orlando shmucks pulling on and off the highway with jet skis putting in there then going full speed, doing circles with disregard for anything or anyone. I guess FWC got sick of seeing it and thank God posted two HUGE No Wake Zone Mantatee signs right in front of where they typically park and unload. This place is doomed
 06/27/2023 07:50 PM
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This place is doomed

The whole state you mean. I work in the sticks and the sticks are vanishing faster than bacon on the buffet.

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 07/16/2023 04:51 PM
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So really, Cocoa Beach? This is the best we can do for the premier parcel of real estate downtown?! Totally destroying the cool vibe downtown was developing.

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 07/22/2023 09:21 AM
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Area 142 posted on their facebook page that they are cancelling concerts now due to CB Commissioner new noise ordinance and threats to the local business. Just a fyi.
 07/24/2023 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by: Central Floridave Area 142 posted on their facebook page that they are cancelling concerts now due to CB Commissioner new noise ordinance and threats to the local business. Just a fyi.
Thank goodness!!!!!! I dislike that place more and more every time I drive by, hopefully this will help it transform into something beneficial for the area

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 10/04/2023 09:56 AM
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fyi, yesterday on Area 142 facebook they announced they have closed and cancelled all upcoming concerts. They also said they sold to an Orlando bar and are going to rebrand it.

Kind of interesting. Check their fb page for more info.
 10/04/2023 11:15 AM
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Good riddance. Hopefully City won't be sleeping on the job re turnover to new owners, or will stop with their the philosophy that if it's good for one small business owner, then it's good for the residents and community. Now'd be a good time to tighten the screws. Biking around there a few weeks ago on a Friday or Sat. night, and once again, band (Cure cover band that actually sounded good) fully consuming all of downtown and beyond. I guess their new noise ordinance is not in effect yet, or meaningless? I feel for residents living within 4-5 blocks of downtown, and nearby businesses suddenly forced to compete with a wall of noise every Thursday - Sun.
 10/04/2023 12:17 PM
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my friend Todd is in that Cure cover band. They doing great with that. Travelling and pulling in big crowds.

My band is playing at Salty Sisters this Saturday. 6-10pm.

Area 142 was hiring a ton of tribute bands. The new Orlando bar owners seem to be successful in what they do. Will be interesting on how they rebrand that venue. They say still will have live music. I'm thinking probably will target younger people though.

Area 142 was pretty loud. We would be playing at hunkerdown and their sound system would overwelm us at times.
 10/04/2023 05:15 PM
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Well, Okay, , , , , I've been reading all the pissing and moaning about this place. But, I ain't been down in Coo Coo Beach in some time, , , , ,

So, 2 weeks ago, I was driving through and, , , , , "What the fuck is that shit, , ,!!!!!?" "Oh, fucking A, that's that 142 thing.". !!!

WTF????????????????????????

Would they even, do they, have that shit in Daytona?

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 10/05/2023 06:31 AM
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Big rock show this weekend. There were changes at the top in the CB government, then new crowd must like loud rock. lol

http://area142.com/events/

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Edited: 10/05/2023 at 06:32 AM by Cole
 10/05/2023 11:15 AM
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All area 142 concerts are cancelled until further notice. The bar remains open while they remodel and rebrand, but all shows aren't happening.

On another note, The Surfing Santas just last week announced they were moving from Downtown CB to Sheppard Park. But, there was a pretty big backlash.

today it was announced the City of CB worked with Surfing Santas and it is now back in Downtown.
 10/06/2023 11:17 AM
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Oh NO!!

You mean I can't see JACKYL or George LYNCH???

THIS SUCKS!!!

lololol

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 10/08/2023 10:23 AM
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Cole

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The place was packed last night. I wonder if they gave free drinks to all the JACKYLMOB fans who got axed by Cocoa Beach?

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 10/15/2023 05:46 AM
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Big article in today's FL Today. You CCB residents are going to LOVE the new concept!
 10/15/2023 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by: garcia

Big article in today's FL Today. You CCB residents are going to LOVE the new concept!


OH JOY!



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