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 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - ww - 12/21/2021 11:34 AM  
 PR will be requiring vaccination and testing to visit.   - SrfGtr - 12/21/2021 02:28 PM  
 PR will be requiring vaccination and testing to visit.   - StirfryMcflurry - 12/21/2021 05:35 PM  
 PR will be requiring vaccination and testing to visit.   - ww - 12/22/2021 04:51 AM  
 PR will be requiring vaccination and testing to visit.   - johnnyboy - 12/22/2021 05:14 AM  
 PR will be requiring vaccination and testing to visit.   - johnnyboy - 12/25/2021 08:23 AM  
 PR will be requiring vaccination and testing to visit.   - Cole - 12/25/2021 10:47 AM  
 PR will be requiring vaccination and testing to visit.   - MyNameIsRobertPaulson - 12/25/2021 01:56 PM  
 PR will be requiring vaccination and testing to visit.   - Cole - 12/26/2021 12:40 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - MyNameIsRobertPaulson - 12/26/2021 07:38 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Cole - 12/27/2021 06:24 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Cole - 12/27/2021 07:06 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - LBLarry - 12/27/2021 07:42 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - MyNameIsRobertPaulson - 12/27/2021 09:17 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - LBLarry - 12/27/2021 02:35 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - StirfryMcflurry - 12/27/2021 02:46 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - StirfryMcflurry - 12/27/2021 04:40 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - StirfryMcflurry - 12/27/2021 01:24 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - MyNameIsRobertPaulson - 12/27/2021 02:07 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - StirfryMcflurry - 12/27/2021 02:10 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - 3rdworldlover - 12/22/2021 06:48 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - palmtreeg - 12/22/2021 07:03 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Cole - 12/22/2021 07:38 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - scostuart - 12/22/2021 05:18 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - LBLarry - 12/23/2021 05:41 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - scombrid - 12/23/2021 06:30 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - LBLarry - 12/27/2021 07:39 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - scombrid - 12/23/2021 06:20 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - palmtreeg - 12/22/2021 07:47 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - ww - 12/22/2021 09:11 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - ww - 12/22/2021 12:14 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - StirfryMcflurry - 12/22/2021 02:39 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Cole - 12/22/2021 02:52 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - scostuart - 12/22/2021 05:20 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - sarasotasurfer - 12/22/2021 07:29 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - tom - 12/23/2021 03:06 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - scostuart - 12/22/2021 05:21 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - scombrid - 12/23/2021 06:27 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Long Beard - 12/23/2021 03:33 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - palmtreeg - 12/23/2021 06:19 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - SrfGtr - 12/23/2021 08:05 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - MyNameIsRobertPaulson - 12/23/2021 08:59 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - ww - 12/24/2021 04:47 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - MyNameIsRobertPaulson - 12/24/2021 06:24 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - palmtreeg - 12/24/2021 07:22 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - palmtreeg - 12/24/2021 07:39 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - StirfryMcflurry - 12/24/2021 11:44 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - palmtreeg - 12/26/2021 10:08 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - palmtreeg - 12/26/2021 10:21 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - SrfGtr - 12/26/2021 11:26 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - palmtreeg - 12/26/2021 01:30 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - ww - 12/26/2021 05:33 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - 3rdworldlover - 12/27/2021 04:12 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Cole - 12/27/2021 07:34 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Long Beard - 12/27/2021 07:22 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - LBLarry - 12/27/2021 07:32 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - scombrid - 12/27/2021 09:49 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - johnnyboy - 12/27/2021 08:39 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - pumphouse - 12/27/2021 12:08 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Cole - 12/27/2021 01:57 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - surfsail - 12/30/2021 06:02 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Long Beard - 12/30/2021 07:21 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Cuz - 02/14/2022 09:41 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - moody - 02/14/2022 02:42 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - tom - 02/15/2022 03:42 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - StirfryMcflurry - 02/15/2022 07:40 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Long Beard - 02/23/2022 03:49 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - moody - 02/24/2022 01:37 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - StirfryMcflurry - 02/26/2022 03:56 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - SurfAddict - 12/27/2021 11:41 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - palmtreeg - 12/28/2021 06:45 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Cole - 12/28/2021 10:15 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Cole - 12/29/2021 11:14 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - wtf - 12/29/2021 05:38 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - MyNameIsRobertPaulson - 12/29/2021 09:07 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Cole - 12/30/2021 08:19 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - scombrid - 12/30/2021 10:10 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - palmtreeg - 12/29/2021 06:03 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Cole - 12/29/2021 09:44 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - palmtreeg - 12/29/2021 03:21 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Lunchmeat - 01/05/2022 11:41 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - scostuart - 01/05/2022 03:11 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - MyNameIsRobertPaulson - 01/05/2022 07:53 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - tom - 01/06/2022 02:44 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Lunchmeat - 01/05/2022 06:12 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Long Beard - 02/10/2022 04:45 AM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - laniakea - 02/10/2022 03:05 PM  
 PR will be requiringtesting to visit and quarantine if not vaccinated.   - Long Beard - 02/10/2022 07:18 PM  
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NY Times and yesterday, Orlando Sentinel. The requirment ame after "two mega concerts by the rapper Bad Bunny at which about 100,000 people were present."

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That's for large events not travel per ur link ....
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Bad Bunny ....is gonna take over the planet. <--you heard it here, first!

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Here's the Discover Puerto Rico official version. Testing before flight, then quarantine if you aren't vaccinated.

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I'm going in January. I guess I will be testing.

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The reason why they don't count previous infections the same as people inoculated is because the variants supersede the previous immunity.

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I believe the vaccine still prevents all illness more than 50% of the time (Omicron excluded, it's a different animal) and prevents serious illness more than 80% of the time.

Palm, if we are in a room with the infected, you have a 50% higher chance of contracting the virus than I do. That's kinda the point of vaccines.

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cole and johnnyboy no disrespect but you are both incorrect
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Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson

cole and johnnyboy no disrespect but you are both incorrect


Nope, not in the least.

The vaccine, booster included, is a far more effective than doing nothing at all. It's not even open for debate. Delta was the killer of the unvaxxed. That data doesn't lie either.

As far as sandbars, When the tide went out, it started breaking on the outside bar and was still backing off.



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Originally posted by: Cole
Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson cole and johnnyboy no disrespect but you are both incorrect
Nope, not in the least. The vaccine, booster included, is a far more effective than doing nothing at all. It's not even open for debate. Delta was the killer of the unvaxxed. That data doesn't lie either.
what data exactly? what do you do for a living? not arguing but I would like to take advice of a mechanic when it comes to cars. I would be skeptical to take advice from plumbers about the implications of mRNA and all the nuances that come with it. Read up on the differences between mRNA and DNA and the steps involved in transcribing, translating, packaging, etc. no disrespect but you just sound poorly educated on the topic

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If newsmax is what you consider a source, any reply from me would be a waste of time. I'll hazard a guess that you think the CDC is nothing but a bunch of hacks and what they say can't be believed, right?

This is what's called an untenable situation.






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From the CDC with a link to the study.

http://covid.cdc.gov/covid-dat...vaccine-effectiveness

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2106599

If you don't believe the New England Journal of medicine, well...

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Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson

Originally posted by: Cole

Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson



cole and johnnyboy no disrespect but you are both incorrect




Nope, not in the least.



The vaccine, booster included, is a far more effective than doing nothing at all. It's not even open for debate. Delta was the killer of the unvaxxed. That data doesn't lie either.


what data exactly? what do you do for a living? not arguing but I would like to take advice of a mechanic when it comes to cars. I would be skeptical to take advice from plumbers about the implications of mRNA and all the nuances that come with it. Read up on the differences between mRNA and DNA and the steps involved in transcribing, translating, packaging, etc. no disrespect but you just sound poorly educated on the topic


Just outta shear curiosity ..... where exactly did you receive your medical degree from??



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Originally posted by: LBLarry
Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson
Originally posted by: Cole
Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson cole and johnnyboy no disrespect but you are both incorrect
Nope, not in the least. The vaccine, booster included, is a far more effective than doing nothing at all. It's not even open for debate. Delta was the killer of the unvaxxed. That data doesn't lie either.
what data exactly? what do you do for a living? not arguing but I would like to take advice of a mechanic when it comes to cars. I would be skeptical to take advice from plumbers about the implications of mRNA and all the nuances that come with it. Read up on the differences between mRNA and DNA and the steps involved in transcribing, translating, packaging, etc. no disrespect but you just sound poorly educated on the topic
Just outta shear curiosity ..... where exactly did you receive your medical degree from??
once you get older LBLarry you will learn that privacy has it's value. I haven't stated my position, yet you have already vilified me as the bad guy. Maybe you should think about changing your name to LBLarrisa. I am simply taking notes, as I have learned that you can correct a fool and he will hate you for it ... so far my "isn't he charming list" consists of Cole, LBLarry, and johnnyboy. could you imagine the drama and intrigue though? if someone who knew immunology and had a degree in molecular biology was listening to a bunch of poorly-read hens cluck about? The intrigue!
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Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson

Originally posted by: LBLarry

Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson



Originally posted by: Cole



Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson







cole and johnnyboy no disrespect but you are both incorrect








Nope, not in the least.







The vaccine, booster included, is a far more effective than doing nothing at all. It's not even open for debate. Delta was the killer of the unvaxxed. That data doesn't lie either.





what data exactly? what do you do for a living? not arguing but I would like to take advice of a mechanic when it comes to cars. I would be skeptical to take advice from plumbers about the implications of mRNA and all the nuances that come with it. Read up on the differences between mRNA and DNA and the steps involved in transcribing, translating, packaging, etc. no disrespect but you just sound poorly educated on the topic




Just outta shear curiosity ..... where exactly did you receive your medical degree from??


once you get older LBLarry you will learn that privacy has it's value. I haven't stated my position, yet you have already vilified me as the bad guy. Maybe you should think about changing your name to LBLarrisa. I am simply taking notes, as I have learned that you can correct a fool and he will hate you for it ... so far my "isn't he charming list" consists of Cole, LBLarry, and johnnyboy.

could you imagine the drama and intrigue though? if someone who knew immunology and had a degree in molecular biology was listening to a bunch of poorly-read hens cluck about? The intrigue!


You asked others "what do you do for a living" and then implied, that they have neither the knowledge or skill set to post with any degree of knowledge on the subject. Then get your panties all twisted when someone challenges you to prove the same.

and with this I am done with you ..... off to "Ignore" land you go, bye now.


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@ karenPaulson " You asked others "what do you do for a living" and then implied, that they have neither the knowledge or skill set to post with any degree of knowledge on the subject. Then get your panties all twisted when someone challenges you to prove the same."

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Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson once you get older you will learn that privacy has it's value.
My Name Is Robert Paulson <-------I'm dying here LOL

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Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson
Originally posted by: Cole
Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson cole and johnnyboy no disrespect but you are both incorrect
Nope, not in the least. The vaccine, booster included, is a far more effective than doing nothing at all. It's not even open for debate. Delta was the killer of the unvaxxed. That data doesn't lie either.
what data exactly? what do you do for a living? not arguing but I would like to take advice of a mechanic when it comes to cars. I would be skeptical to take advice from plumbers about the implications of mRNA and all the nuances that come with it. Read up on the differences between mRNA and DNA and the steps involved in transcribing, translating, packaging, etc. no disrespect but you just sound poorly educated on the topic
Just outta shear curiosity ..... where exactly did you receive your medical degree from??

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Originally posted by: StirfryMcflurry
Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson
Originally posted by: Cole
Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson cole and johnnyboy no disrespect but you are both incorrect
Nope, not in the least. The vaccine, booster included, is a far more effective than doing nothing at all. It's not even open for debate. Delta was the killer of the unvaxxed. That data doesn't lie either.
what data exactly? what do you do for a living? not arguing but I would like to take advice of a mechanic when it comes to cars. I would be skeptical to take advice from plumbers about the implications of mRNA and all the nuances that come with it. Read up on the differences between mRNA and DNA and the steps involved in transcribing, translating, packaging, etc. no disrespect but you just sound poorly educated on the topic
Just outta shear curiosity ..... where exactly did you receive your medical degree from??
cluck away girls
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Originally posted by: MyNameIsKarenPaulson cluck away girls
deflect? OK Karen.

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That was their policy last January when I went
Well, vaccine wasn't available yet so it was negative PCR test within 72 hours of flight or no go/quarantine upon arrival

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That's gonna cost them a lot of dollars for their nonsensical policies...

It's obvious the 6 month injections don't prevent transmission, so WTF !!! Why are Covid recovered not acknowledged as having "natural immunity"... it's almost like a last ditch effort by the Wizard of Oz to prevent the curtain from being pulled

Protect the vulnerable, treat at home, and let human beings be free . Oh, that's what Florida is doing, will be keeping my business here in Florida and Brevard.





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Considering Florida has one of the highest death rates per capita, I can see why other places take precautions. Hell, Israel just blocked Americans altogether.

Costa will take the unvaxxed, but it will cost you extra. http://www.visitcostarica.com/...rip/entry-requirements

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Originally posted by: palmtreeg That's gonna cost them a lot of dollars for their nonsensical policies... It's obvious the 6 month injections don't prevent transmission, so WTF !!! Why are Covid recovered not acknowledged as having "natural immunity"... it's almost like a last ditch effort by the Wizard of Oz to prevent the curtain from being pulled Protect the vulnerable, treat at home, and let human beings be free . Oh, that's what Florida is doing, will be keeping my business here in Florida and Brevard.
It's all about money.

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Originally posted by: palmtreeg

That's gonna cost them a lot of dollars for their nonsensical policies...



It's obvious the 6 month injections don't prevent transmission, so WTF !!! Why are Covid recovered not acknowledged as having "natural immunity"... it's almost like a last ditch effort by the Wizard of Oz to prevent the curtain from being pulled



Protect the vulnerable, treat at home, and let human beings be free . Oh, that's what Florida is doing, will be keeping my business here in Florida and Brevard.


and I will be sending you and your "nonsensical" ass off to Ignore land. bye now.



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Originally posted by: LBLarry
Originally posted by: palmtreeg That's gonna cost them a lot of dollars for their nonsensical policies... It's obvious the 6 month injections don't prevent transmission, so WTF !!! Why are Covid recovered not acknowledged as having "natural immunity"... it's almost like a last ditch effort by the Wizard of Oz to prevent the curtain from being pulled Protect the vulnerable, treat at home, and let human beings be free . Oh, that's what Florida is doing, will be keeping my business here in Florida and Brevard.
and I will be sending you and your "nonsensical" ass off to Ignore land. bye now.
He is practically CoCheech 2.0. Maybe he can tell us just who is pulling the strings that have PR, Israel, Netherlands, British Columbia, and a whole host of other countries taking similar measures at this time for something that is really nothing and that is being trumped up for some nefarious purpose. I would like to see it spelled out in direct explicit detail and not through "just asking questions" or innuendo. Name some names and expose the plot. Help us get woke.

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Originally posted by: scombrid

Originally posted by: LBLarry

Originally posted by: palmtreeg



That's gonna cost them a lot of dollars for their nonsensical policies...







It's obvious the 6 month injections don't prevent transmission, so WTF !!! Why are Covid recovered not acknowledged as having "natural immunity"... it's almost like a last ditch effort by the Wizard of Oz to prevent the curtain from being pulled







Protect the vulnerable, treat at home, and let human beings be free . Oh, that's what Florida is doing, will be keeping my business here in Florida and Brevard.




and I will be sending you and your "nonsensical" ass off to Ignore land. bye now.

He is practically CoCheech 2.0. Maybe he can tell us just who is pulling the strings that have PR, Israel, Netherlands, British Columbia, and a whole host of other countries taking similar measures at this time for something that is really nothing and that is being trumped up for some nefarious purpose. I would like to see it spelled out in direct explicit detail and not through "just asking questions" or innuendo. Name some names and expose the plot. Help us get woke.


You have FAR more tolerance with these assclowns than I do and your attempts to educate are admirable. I have given up on them and just send them off to "Ignore" land so that they don't cog up the pages I read with morainic BS


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Originally posted by: palmtreeg It's obvious the 6 month injections don't prevent transmission,
Except that the highest transmission rates, hospitalization rates, and death rates are among unvaccinated people...
Why are Covid recovered not acknowledged as having "natural immunity"...
Likely because it isn't enough. I have an employee that got alpha and delta. He and his wife got covid pneumonia the second time around. They both spent a few weeks in the hospital.

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Interesting that Florida's death rates are below heavily restricted New Jersey and New York?

Additionally, when you factor in age and comorbidities, the vast majority of deaths are in the elderly, the obese, and the diabetics... not that any of these deaths are not tragic, but these facts need to be considered...

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    Looks like a decent day for CF surf.
    Puerto Rico was outstanding for limiting covid spread. That recent big event was a big setback.
    Deaths per 100,000 for the entire pandemic:
    Hawai'i 6,441
    Puerto Rico 6,872
    Texas 15,334
    New York (state) 15,439
    California 13,259
    Florida 17,597
    Wyoming, 19,681. Idiots
North Dakota (worst) 22,312.
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Infections are exploding in Florida. Rates vary wildly around the state. Miami is, for now, by far the worst. (afternoon report in Orlando Sentinel) My early Jan. trip to Outer Banks is looking doubtful. Had found cheap flights. Maybe drive?
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Originally posted by: ww Infections are exploding in Florida. Rates vary wildly around the state. Miami is, for now, by far the worst. (afternoon report in Orlando Sentinel) My early Jan. trip to Outer Banks is looking doubtful. Had found cheap flights. Maybe drive?
i feel like deja vu for you dubdub, didn't this happen last year ? or whereever you was goin,

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Originally posted by: ww Infections are exploding in Florida. Rates vary wildly around the state. Miami is, for now, by far the worst. (afternoon report in Orlando Sentinel) My early Jan. trip to Outer Banks is looking doubtful. Had found cheap flights. Maybe drive?
Omicron positive does NOT equal hospital nor Death.....look at the results in South Africa for the last 2.5 months.

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Originally posted by: ww Infections are exploding in Florida. Rates vary wildly around the state. Miami is, for now, by far the worst. (afternoon report in Orlando Sentinel) My early Jan. trip to Outer Banks is looking doubtful. Had found cheap flights. Maybe drive?
Who cares about infections (cases). Do we care when 50M people get a cold?
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Less crowded lineups for the vaccinated...

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Originally posted by: palmtreeg Interesting that Florida's death rates are below heavily restricted New Jersey and New York? Additionally, when you factor in age and comorbidities, the vast majority of deaths are in the elderly, the obese, and the diabetics... not that any of these deaths are not tragic, but these facts need to be considered...
Aahhhhhh ..........breaking down the facts.........you gonna cause others heads to xplode.

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Originally posted by: palmtreeg Interesting that Florida's death rates are below heavily restricted New Jersey and New York?
NYC area was flooded with covid before the US even acknowledged there was covid. I have a friend that's a pulmonologist in northern NJ and March-Sept last year was hell working through all the people that flooded the hospital that were infected before any restrictions went into effect. A more valid comparison is NY/NJ vs. FL in 2021.
Additionally, when you factor in age and comorbidities, the vast majority of deaths are in the elderly, the obese, and the diabetics... not that any of these deaths are not tragic, but these facts need to be considered...
Check the list of conservative radio hosts and preachers that have died. They weren't exactly knocking on heaven's door before covid. Do you know how you protect the vulnerable populations though? You get everybody around them vaccinated. A lot of the vulnerable population are people for whom vaccines don't work. The vaccine gave me a raging fever. I bet I have antibody levels that are ridiculous. My 82 year old Dad with Parkinson's disease felt nothing. Guess what. He is vaccinated but I bet he is still pretty damned vulnerable whereas I probably have almost zero chance of even noticing if I get a "breakthrough" infection. Those are the people we protect by not being selfish twats. Check with Dingpatch. The fight he's put in? I don't think he wants to go out gasping and wheezing because the young bucks keep bringing the vid to him. Back to surfing related any sandbars without a trough around these days?


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ASS U ME

don't assume shit, and again the jabs DO NOT prevent transmission!!!

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Let me be the first to say : Merry Christmas every last one of you ignorant mofos!
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does anyone actually know how the immune system or works or are we just parroting shit that we hear on tv... question directed to both libtards and foxnews guys
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    The Delta outbreak of the coronavirus was very bad for Florida, the main reason why it scores well above average for deaths. The current outbreak is looking like Delta, but faster. It doesn't seem to have hit anywhere on the Atlantic coast from Martin County north. In fact, from Martin and Lee counties north to about Savannah and Pensacola is looking fine, with the Orlando area and Tampa not quite so good. One of the experts to trust is Dr Peter Hotez, dean for the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor University in Houston. The school is a busy developer of vaccines, mostly for tropical diseases that don't affect us much. A recent one is hookworms, which once were a plague of the American South. He is an enthusiastic backer of the covid vaccines.


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Originally posted by: ww
    The Delta outbreak of the coronavirus was very bad for Florida, the main reason why it scores well above average for deaths. The current outbreak is looking like Delta, but faster. It doesn't seem to have hit anywhere on the Atlantic coast from Martin County north. In fact, from Martin and Lee counties north to about Savannah and Pensacola is looking fine, with the Orlando area and Tampa not quite so good. One of the experts to trust is Dr Peter Hotez, dean for the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor University in Houston. The school is a busy developer of vaccines, mostly for tropical diseases that don't affect us much. A recent one is hookworms, which once were a plague of the American South. He is an enthusiastic backer of the covid vaccines.
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Trust the science...maybe if you're alive 55 years from now you'll actually get to see it.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/wait-what-fda-wants-55-years-process-foia-request-over-vaccine-data-2021-11-18/

My original gripe is mandating a jab that DOES NOT prevent transmission.

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Cole and Johnny, appreciate the response, but please back up your statements with proof. There is zero evidence that there is a 50% lower chance of getting infected if you've been jabbed. And how long has it been since you received last jab? Basically ineffective after 6 months. To be considered a vaccine you have to convey immunity for at least 12 months, can anybody give an example of another vaccine that you give every six months?

Who plans on getting this every six months the rest of their life? If you have that evidence please post it I would love to see it. It's interesting that the FDA has petitioned that all vaccine data be sealed from the freedom of information act for 55 to 75 years ???

https://www.newsmax.com/health/health-news/fda-vaccinedata-pfizer-75-years/2021/12/08/id/1047876/

And here is a huge news bulletin, Big Pharma loves to use Relative Risk Reductions as opposed to Absolute Risk Reduction as it makes it very easy to manipulate the data. The ARR for vaxxed is less than 1%, pretty pathetic and most educated doctors would not prescribe or recommend a product with such a benign risk reduction.

Next let's talk about asymptotic spread, there is zero evidence of this.

https://www.aier.org/article/asymptomatic-spread-revisited/

Finally Cole, better than doing nothing, there is plenty to do instead of nothing. Approximately 80% of the deaths have been in the obese and diabetic, so diet and exercise helps. Not to mention the available therapies that do have much clinical evidence to back their utilization, however they have been purposely demonized and suppressed as they are generic and no profit motive for the powers that be. For example the largest state in India is now Covid free thanks to a molecule marketed by Merck for HUMANS and awarded a Nobel Prize.

https://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/13293/20210917/india-s-uttar-pradesh-state-now-covid-free-recovery-rate-up-98-6-because-of-ivermectin.htm

https://youtu.be/OLxJUOc_p5o

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nTGX4crz2C0

The good news is that OMICRON an anagram for MORONIC is very likely to bring this scamdemic to an end...hopefully they shut down Wuhan lab to prevent more nonsense and waste of life and resources. And bring Fauci and the other goons who have enabled our manipulation to be brought to justice.

Robert F Kennedy Jr new book chock full of documented facts You most likely will not find this info on big Pharma funded main stream media channels...

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Absolute risk reduction article from the NIH

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7996517/

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Holy crap are there some lost souls on this board. No block feature ? I guess the long slow death of this board doesn't justify any concern w the little traffic here. This is the discussion for peeps looking for PR discussion? Don't pretend ur a friend of surfers with the self serving political crap ......

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https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/24/navy-warship-milwaukee-covid-526138

So this is my point about the original thread, a 100% vaccinated Navy Ship is riddled with COVID, again DOES NOT prevent transmission, that's my point, so why have a different set of rules for those that chose to do every 6 month jab vs those that do not.

Went to PR last Spring, did the PCR test as they requested within 72 hours and everything was fine. Completely agree PCR test and symptom free should be a requirement, but the 2 sets of rules, with A quarantine, without the science to justify pisses me off, as was hoping to return to PR this Spring

WW, Thank you for letting us know what PR's current protocols are. Nothing we can do to change their irrational policies, but certainly we can direct our dollars where we see fit.

Don't really see anything political in discussing medical facts. Willing to do a trading places bet of one dollar if anybody has some facts to refute what I have shared, but please send it to my instant message as clearly a lot of panties are in a wad here...

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    Latest Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation briefing for the US. Not all is applicable to Florida. We had our big wave of deaths in late summer and early fall, peaking Sept. 1. Probably won't have stuffed hospitals (as their models estimate).
    IHME remains enthusiastically in favor of vaccines and masking.
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Originally posted by: palmtreeg

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/24/navy-warship-milwaukee-covid-526138



So this is my point about the original thread, a 100% vaccinated Navy Ship is riddled with COVID, again DOES NOT prevent transmission, that's my point, so why have a different set of rules for those that chose to do every 6 month jab vs those that do not.



Went to PR last Spring, did the PCR test as they requested within 72 hours and everything was fine. Completely agree PCR test and symptom free should be a requirement, but the 2 sets of rules, with A quarantine, without the science to justify pisses me off, as was hoping to return to PR this Spring



WW, Thank you for letting us know what PR's current protocols are. Nothing we can do to change their irrational policies, but certainly we can direct our dollars where we see fit.



Don't really see anything political in discussing medical facts. Willing to do a trading places bet of one dollar if anybody has some facts to refute what I have shared, but please send it to my instant message as clearly a lot of panties are in a wad here...



Ignorance is bliss, sorry to disrupt anyone's bliss.


The article states, " The number of crew testing positive was not disclosed. The ship has a crew of a little more than 100."

This is hardly evidence that the vaccines don't reduce transmission rates.

Were all crew members really "fully vaccinated"? The mandate wasn't in effect until Nov 29th. It requires over 6 months to fully vaccinate.

Also note that none of those infected required any medical attention. That's a big tax and efficiency savings for the military, sound health and economic policy.
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Women are incapable of intelligent and rational thought?

Wow, this just keeps getting better and better. lol

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I chartered 2 doctors last week. Both around 70 and vaccinated. Both told me if ur under 65 and remotely healthy that you don't need to get the jab. One doc told me he takes and prescribes ivermectin. They said Pfizer is about to drop their version of it which is the exact same thing, it's just going to cost an arm and a leg. Both docs agreed that anyone jabbed or unjabbed can just as easily contact and spread covid. Both docs agreed the only benefit is that the symptoms appear to be milder for some jabbed folks. Both docs agreed same rules should apply for jabbed and unjabbed. My personal thought is that the person with milder symptoms would be most likely to be the super spreader as they wouldn't know they're positive. Common sense kinda tells us that. Ive had 6 different people in the past week (all vaxinated) reach out to tell me they had covid when they were around me and they didn't know it. I had it 6 months ago, so my antibodies are probably what didn't let me get it again. I don't know any unjabbed people who have this current variant. Seems like its effecting the jabbed more for some reason. Let me end by saying that although I'm unjabbed, I'm pro-jab, ant-mandate, so this ain't an anti-vaxxer rant.

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Originally posted by: Long Beard

I chartered 2 doctors last week. Both around 70 and vaccinated. Both told me if ur under 65 and remotely healthy that you don't need to get the jab. One doc told me he takes and prescribes ivermectin. They said Pfizer is about to drop their version of it which is the exact same thing, it's just going to cost an arm and a leg. Both docs agreed that anyone jabbed or unjabbed can just as easily contact and spread covid. Both docs agreed the only benefit is that the symptoms appear to be milder for some jabbed folks. Both docs agreed same rules should apply for jabbed and unjabbed. My personal thought is that the person with milder symptoms would be most likely to be the super spreader as they wouldn't know they're positive. Common sense kinda tells us that. Ive had 6 different people in the past week (all vaxinated) reach out to tell me they had covid when they were around me and they didn't know it. I had it 6 months ago, so my antibodies are probably what didn't let me get it again. I don't know any unjabbed people who have this current variant. Seems like its effecting the jabbed more for some reason. Let me end by saying that although I'm unjabbed, I'm pro-jab, ant-mandate, so this ain't an anti-vaxxer rant.


Can I get the name of these 2 "doctors"? I want to be able to avoid any and all potential medical contact with them. Tks



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Originally posted by: Long Beard ivermectin. They said Pfizer is about to drop their version of it which is the exact same thing, it's just going to cost an arm and a leg.
Not even close to the same thing. I would be wary of a doctor that thinks the latest antiviral drugs are "the exact same thing" as ivermectin. Perhaps your doctors can provide us with clinical studies of ivermectin as well.

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The lack of treatment during this pandemic has been a travesty. To be told to stay at home and do nothing until your Oxygen levels go down to a dangerous level, then go to the ER, is a shame.
If we would have treated people, many lives would have been saved.


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if someone who knew immunology and had a degree in molecular biology was listening to a bunch of poorly-read hens cluck about? The intrigue!

They would most likely refer you to the journal I linked, considering it is one of the most respected in the world. Yes, it's no Newsmax, but I was asked for actual facts, not alternative ones.

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There are many types of 'doctors' out there. I would not def be listening to advice from any doctor who's specialty was not immunology etc, and is not current and up to date with the nuances of new developments - like cove or it's variants.. Retired doctors are prob not really up to date, especially if it's not in their field of specialty..

Unfortunately many doctors also have ego's, and along with that some think & act like 'know it alls' - they are all definitely not infallable..

Would anyone in their right mind want a random 'doctor' performing heart surgery on them..

As an registered structural engineer I would not trust an electirical PE designing any structure, or vice versa - especially if my life depended on it... That's why lots of them 'stay in their lane' - or risk getting their licences revoked.. Same rules apply for doctors...

The CDC is made up of a group of doctors who specialize in these areas and types of diseases. This is their specialty.. They arrive at a decisions by consensious - and update their recommendations as time goes by based on recent data updates.. They are not 'gods' either..

Everyone is listening to who they want to - and obviously no one here is going to change your mind..

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Originally posted by: Long Beard





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I encountered this thought process while trying to attend a Kitchen and Bath Show in ORLANDO last week. People walking in maskless with a vaccine card. But anyone else had to provide a negative test within 48 hours, or take an onsite rapid test. Needless to say, we turned around and left.
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I have to admit, reading this thread has activated one of my pet peeves. I don't care if you get vaccinated; do what you want at this point. But since when do a bunch of Americans call them "jabs" like they just stumbled out of a grimy pub in Liverpool? Has something on the deep dark corners of the dark web activated your inner Scouse and Mancunian longings for the "old sod?" I've been noticing this trend and while I know it likely comes from all that propaganda thrown around, its widespread adoption is a bit puzzling. Especially with all the anti-European sentiment that typically accompanies it.

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Ouch! Quick jab to the thesaurus! Nice shot!

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if you get one for a sail on your boat....would you call it ...a jib-jab?

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Originally posted by: moody

I have to admit, reading this thread has activated one of my pet peeves. I don't care if you get vaccinated; do what you want at this point. But since when do a bunch of Americans call them "jabs" like they just stumbled out of a grimy pub in Liverpool? Has something on the deep dark corners of the dark web activated your inner Scouse and Mancunian longings for the "old sod?" I've been noticing this trend and while I know it likely comes from all that propaganda thrown around, its widespread adoption is a bit puzzling. Especially with all the anti-European sentiment that typically accompanies it.



It came from social media outlets removing or marking posts with the word vax or vaccine. Jab flew under the radar from those who don't like free speech for a while.

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Thanks, I was curious. As someone who actually HAS gotten jabs in the UK and who has some background in linguistics, I have to say that it's interesting to see how it's taken hold. It comes across kind of like someone walking down A1A drunk hollering "cor, blimey, me bloomers are on fire..." They're pants, anyway.

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Originally posted by: pumphouse The lack of treatment during this pandemic has been a travesty. To be told to stay at home and do nothing until your Oxygen levels go down to a dangerous level, then go to the ER, is a shame. If we would have treated people, many lives would have been saved.
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Yes Pumphouse/Surfaddict!!!

But then folks wouldn't be frightened into taking gene therapy, labeled a "vaccine" to allow indemnity for Big Pharma.

Estimated 85% of deaths could have been prevented with early treatment with proven treatments....but then EUA's would have been pulled...

Don't forget Lancet had to RETRACT their hit piece on Hydrocychloriquine

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Who makes Hydrocychloriquine?


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Originally posted by: palmtreeg

Yes Pumphouse/Surfaddict!!!



But then folks wouldn't be frightened into taking gene therapy, labeled a "vaccine" to allow indemnity for Big Pharma.



Estimated 85% of deaths could have been prevented with early treatment with proven treatments....but then EUA's would have been pulled...



Don't forget Lancet had to RETRACT their hit piece on Hydrocychloriquine


See your spelling above.

P.S. Merck manufactures hydroxychloroquine. I'm pretty sure Merck is as Big Pharma as it gets.



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The Dunning-Kruger is strong in this thread. Not surprising though, we've been dumbing down America for years. Most people can't figure out basic 6th grade algebra but are now somehow epidemiology experts. SMDH

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Originally posted by: wtf Not surprising though, we've been dumbing down America for years. Most people can't figure out basic 6th grade algebra but are now somehow epidemiology experts. SMDH
I see it when I listen to people talk about sports. They hear things on tv and then they repeat what they heard verbatim. "tom brady goat." "steph curry best shooter". "aaron rodgers has great poise". "KD just has the IT factor". It's actually amazing to hear people parrot the shit they hear on tv. everyone is an NBA, NFL expert. People that have never even touched a football have ideas of what a slant route is and why peyton manning is the "greatest" and why eli manning "literally is the worst." Everyone is a critic. The balls on these people. Yet they can't name more than 2 defensive schemes, but have the balls to say egregious things such as a certain player sucks. Athletes, when they hear that type of stuff, they roll their eyes. what is beautiful is people do the same thing from what they hear on the news. it's actual a feat of social engineering, and it's pretty amazing. I give credit to those upstairs, well done. You have created a group of people so arrogant that instead of actually starting with the fundamentals, you skip right up to the cliff notes and are now an expert. if you are parroting things you hear on tv and have little to no understanding of the fundamentals of molecular biology, you are waving a big flag that says, "i am completely uneducated on the topic but am arrogant enough to spout on about something i truly don't understand. I repeat things i see on tv and take them as gospel because I cannot admit to myself and those around me that I am truly ignorant. It is easier to repeat things on TV and team up with a group/feel safe, than to educate myself." I had a conversation with a fellow, let's say client, and his words: "if the government isnt going to take control of my own health and the safety of my family, than who will?" lol. you can't make it up.. these aren't millenials these are the 60 y/o's fellow 2ndlighters that are munching on SS benefits and medicare cards... people in there 60's (the majority of 2ndlighters im assuming) have the arrogance to say things yet when it comes time to do pushups and eat healthy, it's easier to use your medicare card. correct a fool and he will hate you for it

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Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson

Originally posted by: wtf

Not surprising though, we've been dumbing down America for years. Most people can't figure out basic 6th grade algebra but are now somehow epidemiology experts. SMDH


I see it when I listen to people talk about sports. They hear things on tv and then they repeat what they heard verbatim. "tom brady goat." "steph curry best shooter". "aaron rodgers has great poise". "KD just has the IT factor". It's actually amazing to hear people parrot the shit they hear on tv. everyone is an NBA, NFL expert. People that have never even touched a football have ideas of what a slant route is and why peyton manning is the "greatest" and why eli manning "literally is the worst." Everyone is a critic. The balls on these people. Yet they can't name more than 2 defensive schemes, but have the balls to say egregious things such as a certain player sucks. Athletes, when they hear that type of stuff, they roll their eyes. what is beautiful is people do the same thing from what they hear on the news. it's actual a feat of social engineering, and it's pretty amazing. I give credit to those upstairs, well done. You have created a group of people so arrogant that instead of actually starting with the fundamentals, you skip right up to the cliff notes and are now an expert. if you are parroting things you hear on tv and have little to no understanding of the fundamentals of molecular biology, you are waving a big flag that says, "i am completely uneducated on the topic but am arrogant enough to spout on about something i truly don't understand. I repeat things i see on tv and take them as gospel because I cannot admit to myself and those around me that I am truly ignorant. It is easier to repeat things on TV and team up with a group/feel safe, than to educate myself." I had a conversation with a fellow, let's say client, and his words: "if the government isnt going to take control of my own health and the safety of my family, than who will?" lol. you can't make it up.. these aren't millenials these are the 60 y/o's fellow 2ndlighters that are munching on SS benefits and medicare cards... people in there 60's (the majority of 2ndlighters im assuming) have the arrogance to say things yet when it comes time to do pushups and eat healthy, it's easier to use your medicare card. correct a fool and he will hate you for it


I'm pretty smart and I can read. Do I understand the intricacies of the medical jargon? Nope, that's not my field. Can I understand the parsed down version when it's converted to layman's terms? Of course.

I read the history of mRNA research, then the breakdown of the vaccine and decided through a personal risk assessment that the vaccine was a right choice for me and my family. I also read the study out of Australia on zinc and it's effectiveness with blocking the virus from duplicating and that is where hydroxychloroquine came in. It allows the zinc to get into the cells and stave off duplication. I do find it funny that there is all this talk of hydroxy and no mention of zinc, the thing that actually makes it work.






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Originally posted by: Cole I do find it funny that there is all this talk of hydroxy and no mention of zinc, the thing that actually makes it work.
And that the studies were in vitro. In vivo there isn't a good way to get relevant concentrations into the cells without some serious toxicology issues. Then we've got guys that think that you can do a few pushups and get some sun and you're good to go. Fuck, worst flu I ever had was when I was in the absolute peak of fitness. We are talking just short of olympic standard times in middle distance endurance racing and competing internationally in long distance. I was outside every damn day for multiple workouts per day, worked outside, etc... Super healthy diet and lots of sun. But these guys probably think you can detox and do all other manner of cranky pseudoscientific alternative medicine to prevent and cure cancer etc... I'm middle aged now and still in great shape with excellent lipid profile, perfect blood pressure, low resting HR, and an still run a 5k in a smidge under 20 minutes even though I am in the Clydesdale class due to the upper body mass needed for my primary sport. Guess what, I'm still not fucking around and pretending that some kind of exercise or multivitamin is going to prevent TB, Polio, Measles, Covid, etc... Vaccines prime your immune system. Sometimes viruses do not give a shit if you are fit or not. Maybe you have a history of asthma and no matter how fit you are any given flu or respiratory virus might fuck you sideways....

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https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext

Cole, maybe you can find the proper spelling in the retraction article from the lancet

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Originally posted by: palmtreeg

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31324-6/fulltext



Cole, maybe you can find the proper spelling in the retraction article from the lancet


First off, take the s off of the https and the link will be live.

Second, I copied and pasted the word Hydrocychloriquine from you. lol



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Hxy no longer under patent protection as it is generic, and thus the majority of the manufacturing is done by generic drug companies.

You most likely are confusing molecules with Ivermectin, which Merck did market for HUMANS, however that is also generic and most manufacturing done by generic drug companies as well.

Cole, you're probably smart enough to realize that the purpose for the demonization of cheap generic therapies that work is to pave way for PATENTED new therapies with very flimsy clinical data.

Incredible how Merck rejected the idea of using Ivermectin, as it again has no patent protection, and they magically developed a NEW antiviral with patent protection, A very questionable and weak study, and a poor safety profile.

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update to latest travel requirements to enter PR.I'm headed there the 12th, hope it doesn't get any worse.
"Anyone older than 2 years must provide a negative result of a molecular or antigen test for COVID-19 performed within the period of 48 hours before arriving on the Island,
regardless of being inoculated with any of the vaccines authorized by FDA or WHO"


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Originally posted by: Lunchmeat update to latest travel requirements to enter PR.I'm headed there the 12th, hope it doesn't get any worse. "Anyone older than 2 years must provide a negative result of a molecular or antigen test for COVID-19 performed within the period of 48 hours before arriving on the Island, regardless of being inoculated with any of the vaccines authorized by FDA or WHO"
Guess other countries are realizing that the Covid shot doesn't actually....do .........what the FDA/CDC/WHO says it would do............

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Originally posted by: scostuart
Originally posted by: Lunchmeat update to latest travel requirements to enter PR.I'm headed there the 12th, hope it doesn't get any worse. "Anyone older than 2 years must provide a negative result of a molecular or antigen test for COVID-19 performed within the period of 48 hours before arriving on the Island, regardless of being inoculated with any of the vaccines authorized by FDA or WHO"
Guess other countries are realizing that the Covid shot doesn't actually....do .........what the FDA/CDC/WHO says it would do............
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And on that note, this thread only got bumped to purgatory, not all the way down to NSR. Actions. Words....

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While I don't disagree with that, PR isn't a different country.

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Heard they pulled back on this last week. Can anyone confirm?

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Just got back on the 30th. Masks are required at all restaurants and any retail store. Some sit-down restaurants required vax card and ID as they were getting $500 fines. Going back next month and it looks like they've relaxed entry requirement. Flying in/out of Ramey/BQN.

As of February 2nd, vaccinated travelers are no longer required to present a negative test.

Unvaccinated travelers entering on domestic flights are still required to show negative test results from the last two days or take one within 48 hours of arrival and must quarantine while awaiting results. Once they have a negative test, they can stop quarantining immediately.

If a traveler is unvaccinated and does not get tested within the 48-hour window, they are required to quarantine for 7 days and be subject to applicable sanctions.
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Preciata ya!

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