Trouble in paradise?

I have them winning 8 games this year. Maybe 9.

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Phil who?

Now that's good stuff

CBS Sports has Gators at #12

https://www.cbssports.com/coll...-ahead-of-2021-season/

StirfryMcflurry, "Phil who?"

Know who he is yet?

Still drawin a blank. Kinda like the Gators

Whoa, wait just a darned minute. The Gators got 17 against USC. They suck but no blanks (yet)! (Although they certainly seem to be shooting blanks.)

I hope the gators can become bowl eligible so this can happen on link below! UCF sucks also. So many injuries and we lost another great LB last game. Even Coach Malzhan got hurt and is on crutches. Injury bug has hit UCF bad. Can't wait until next year! but, possibly getting lined up with the gators in a bowl game would be interesting.


Sitting at 5-5, UF needs to at least split its final games at Missouri and at home against Florida State to reach bowl eligibility, and that is far from a sure thing. Still, ESPN's Mark Schlabach and Kyle Bonagura both give the Gators the benefit of the doubt and expect them to go bowling, albeit in low-profile games.

Schlabach's prediction is definitely more intriguing, as he pairs Florida with UCF in the Birmingham Bowl.

Does Florida make the cut in ESPN's bowl projections?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news...pn-bowl-171027551.html

That's a bit high. But who knows? Emory might be blossoming under Mullen's direction. This was the paradigm for trask and he was second fiddle to Frank's until Frank's got injured and trask was able to step up huge.

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Mullen has a rep as a QB guru. I think Trask/Franks puts the lie to that. Spurrier would have plucked Trask out of the depths of the depth chart just as he did Shane Matthews whereas Mullen stuck with Franks way too long. I also am not at all impressed with Jones's performance when he subbed in. He can't seem to pass and doesn't run very strongly either. He seems to be lost at the beginning of each play. It makes me wonder if he is just a transition player, which also makes me wonder why Mullen doesn't have another strong QB in the pipeline. If he is such a guru, why aren't QBs lining up to play for him? Mullen has never impressed me and I can't see him ever rising to the top of the SEC. He may win an East title or two, but, I don't think he strikes fear into anyone.

That Sept 18th date is looming. Bama in the Swamp and at 3:30pm. They have two tune up games prior (FAU and USF). Hope they can knock off bama. Can't wait for football season. Practice started this week.

They will not be knocking off Bama. Not anytime soon either. I agree with you Garcia, Mullen kept Franks way past the point of knowing. It was interesting to see Franks take his game to Arkansas. It went about the same there too. He's good, he will not ever be more than good. As for Emory, he did throw some good passes so he's physically capable but his training and decisionmaking will be on full display with Bama.

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Anything can happen on any Saturday as we have seen many times, but, I think the Gators best hope is that Bama suffers heatstroke. That's always a possibility in Gainesville in Aug/Sept, esp since the visitors are on the east sideline (facing west) while the Gators will be in the shade (at least in the second half). Mullen ought to increase those odds by laying down Doug's rug on top of the natural turf for this game. That would add another 25-30 deg down on the field. (I played on it as a freshman and it was hotter than anything I've ever played on.) If I was betting I would give the points, no matter how many. Bama will be fired up after the closeness of the SEC championship last year; they will show no mercy and the Gators are young at key positions.

The word on why Mullen stayed so long with Franks is that the players loved him. Not a good enough reason for me, but, I don't make a billion $$/year. Franks only pass was 45+. Anything under that was wasted, but he sure could hit that one. I fail to understand why Mullen, being a QB genius, can't teach his QBs to hit a receiver on the run. They have to stop and catch every single pass. SOS would never have a QB who couldn't do that. He expected his receivers to be on a dead run when the ball got there and then turn it on. (He would have had Trask starting as a sophomore. Accuracy and smarts were what he looked for, not a guy who could throw it 65 yards on one knee.) Drives me crazy.

I've been in the swamp in september in the middle of the day. Hottest I've ever felt, loudest stadium I've ever been in as well. Gator's definitely have a home field advantage there.

It's even hotter down on the field because the field is below grade. When they built the stadium, they dug a big hole for the field and used the fill around the edges to brace the stands. The top of the north end zone (until the endzone expansions in the 80s and 90s) was even with the road and the bleachers on the south side were only a little bit above grade. That made it bad enough, but now, with the expansions on both end zones raising the seats well above grade, all breezes are blocked. When I was a freshman (in 73), we all played frisbee on it. (It had artificial turf, aka Doug's Rug, so the school figured it was no harm to let students on it.) The thermals from Doug's Rug and the lack of a breeze made them fly forever. A great frisbee venue, but, it sucked for pickup football - hot as hell and rug burns galore.

Cool. Did you play ultimate? I played in many Ultimate tournaments in Gainesville as they hosted some great ones in the 80s and 90s.

My sister-n-law lived in Gainesville and Husband was a professor there. So, I spent a lot of time there. In and around the swamp. Then there was the time UCF played the Gators in their National Championship run...got blanked 42-0...Tebow's first game. That was the first time I was wearing UCF gear in the swamp and we got so abused. Comical actually. Even in the 4th quarter while we were getting gator stomped they were still abusing us. I was like wow. No breaks. We were gator bait for sure.

Gator fans turned into entitled a-holes in the 90s after Spurrier started his run. I saw them play Md in the Orange Bowl and they were abusing the Md fans. The Md fans got them though when they said (after listening good naturedly for way too long), "Look, you can't ruin our day, we're happy to be here. Where were you supposed to be?" Md had been picked near the bottom of the ACC and were in a big 5 bowl. UF had been no. 1 and destined for the Rose Bowl (site of the NC) when they lost the last game to Tennessee (who was not great). Served them right. We were happy and appreciative of wins. These kids now think they are the shits. Dan Jenkins had it right - "The arrogance of Notre Dame and the tradition of Wake Forest".

I dunno, G...seems a little...... subjective....amirite?

Been a Gator fan since the early 60s, lived there for almost 7 years and been a pretty close follower the whole time. Yes, all opinions are subjective, is based on years of experience.

Been a fan for not quite as long. I would love to see an undefeated season before I die but that's not happening any time soon.

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No undefeated seasons with Mullen as HBC. The SEC is too tough for anybody and will only get tougher unless you get a one-off like Saban; he is unique. When he retires in 10 years, there may be somebody else who can pull it off (but it won't be Mullen). Or, maybe the Gators can go to the ACC or the Big 12 (now that Ok and Tx are leaving). That might give them a chance.

Or to the AAC. (Alright Dave, the gauntlet has been tossed down. Over to you!)

GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- Florida cornerback and projected starter Jaydon Hill will miss the season after tearing the ACL in his left knee, an injury coach Dan Mullen called a "massive disappointment."

GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- In OTHER news, after over 6 months of recruiting, Spurrier finally found around 200 players to staff his newly opened 17,000 sq. ft. restaurant. Now - you can get that $14 grilled cheese sammich!

Loved Spurrier (still do), but, I knew it would be way more than I would ever pay. His ego would not allow low or moderate prices. I'm not paying $34 for a 6 oz filet. Mama Lo's is more my style - hand written menus (daily) on notebook paper, tiled with linoleum samples and a neon sign that said "Lo's Chittlins". When I left a qtr of a fried chicken, 3 sides and cornbread was $2.75. You never knew who would sit next to you. Might be a professor or other professional (usually black), a cop (also usually black), a street person (invariably white) or a student on a tight budget (like me). Mama Lo and her kids fed us all. She was an institution and a sweet lady.

^ Mama Lo's was the bomb! Loved that place. Ya may have sat next to ME! Then again.. can't forget the Krishna lunch... - got me thru a broke summer (or 2!) back when it was actually "free" (by donation!). Now - even that's 5 bucks a plate, and they are sellin ticket books with a week or monthly plan!

got a few discount tix last week. IDK WTF you peeps think, my blood runs orange and blue, so I'll be there soaking it in, win or lose. Do what you love!

StirFly - I was there from 73 to 79. Ate with the Krishnas many times and even worked in their gardens a few times. Food was always healthy, but, pretty bland. I usually brought a few packets of Mickey D's pepper to spice it up. My (now) wife worked at Affinity Again (a somewhat hippy-ish clothing shop on University near Snuffy's) and Mama Lo would occasionally call to ask if they had anything in her size in red. If so, she sent her daughter over to pick it up. She was a class act working her (big) pots on those two old stoves, dressed nicely (usually in red) in her house slippers. When I started, the fried chicken was $1.35 and rose to $2.75 by the time I left. Went in there tripping one time and the floor tiled in tile samples (no two alike) mesmerized me. Hilarious.

Where Florida lands in Sports Illustrated's preseason top 25
David Rosenberg 13 hrs ago

https://www.msn.com/en-us/spor...ason-top-25/ar-AANiuyg

Pat Forde's Preseason Rankings - Led By You-Know-Who
From the usual heavyweights to Group of 5 upstarts, SI sets the stage for a new year on the NCAA gridiron.

https://www.si.com/college/202...ankings-preseason-2021

Pat Forde top 25 link above has good quickee recap of each team.

2021 Preseason AP Top 25?
1. Alabama (47)
2. Oklahoma (6)
3. Clemson (6)
4. Ohio State (1)
5. Georgia (3)
6. Texas A&M
7. Iowa State
8. Cincinnati
9. Notre Dame
10. North Carolina
11. Oregon
12. Wisconsin
13. Florida
14. Miami (FL)
15. USC
16. LSU
17. Indiana
18. Iowa
19. Penn State
20. Washington
21.Texas
22. Coastal Carolina
23. Louisiana
24. Utah
25. Arizona State

Others receiving votes: Oklahoma State(107); Ole Miss (106); TCU (40), Liberty (36), Auburn (32), NC State (14), Michigan (12), Northwestern (8), Boise State (7), Nevada (7), BYU (6), Ball State (6), Houston (5), Boston College (5), UCF (5), West Virginia (3), UAB(2), Army (2), UCLA (2)

Me too. The appearance of any objectivity is too much effort to maintain. Go Gators. That being said, it won't be easy this year.

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Legendary college football coach Steve Spurrier made a bold prediction, saying that he believes the Florida Gators are going to beat the Alabama Crimson Tide in this year's Week 3 matchup in Gainesville. Spurrier coached the Gators for 12 seasons from 1990-2001, compiling a record of 122-27-1 over that span.

Last season, Alabama beat Florida by a score of 52-46, extending their win streak over the Gators to seven games. The last time Florida beat the Crimson Tide was a 31-20 victory in 2008.

Spurrier's comments came on 1010XL's Gators Roundtable, which drops on Friday.

I love SOS dearly, but I wish he hadn't poked the elephant.

Orr is struggling hard to say relevant.

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I wish we could put a stop to these sympathy bowls and participation trophies. It would have been cool to see UCF vs UF a few seasons ago, but I don't want to see either in the Don't Care Bowl this year. UCF's drubbing by BYU last year served no purpose, other than financial. Legit on the surface, but ya gotta draw the line somewhere.

An extra two weeks of practice for the bowl would do both teams favors. UCF has a lot of young players getting playing time due to 8 or 9 starters out for season.

I have not followed the gators situation all that much, but they just fired some asst coaches. They prob need practice as well.

Hate when our teams lose. But, its just entertainment. I'd watch UCF vs Gators bowl game. You wouldn't since. you don't care? . I was at the boca BYU game. that game definetly sucked butt. BYU turned out to be a top ten team and that QB was NFL talent. Did he make it to the NFL? off to google that.



Edited: 11/16/2021 at 11:44 AM by Central Floridave

Zachary Kapono Wilson (born August 3, 1999) is an American football quarterback for the New York Jets of the National Football League (NFL). He played college football at BYU, where he was a two-time bowl game MVP, and was selected second overall by the Jets in the 2021 NFL Draft.

gators make ESPN bottom ten:

5. Flexas (or Torida?)
It is rare to have two teams sharing the Coveted Fifth Spot. (Does that make it the Coveted 2.5 spot?) But here we are. Texas lost to then-Bottom 10 No. 1-ranked Kansas in Austin, the first Big 12 road victory for the Nayhawks in 4,788 days. The last time KU won a conference game on the road was Oct. 4, 2008. The No. 1 film at the box office that week was Leo DiCaprio's "Body of Lies." Speaking of, how about Florida head coach Dan Mullen getting mad at people for referring to a 70-52 win over Samford as "disappointing" despite the fact that the Bulldogs are an FCS team with a losing record and racked up 42 first-half points, a record for any Swamp visitor in 115 years of Gators football? Who knew that the emperor's new clothes included custom-made Jordans?

https://www.espn.com/college-f...conn-see-hope-fleeting

I would not be the least bit surprised to see the gators lose to Missou and FSU and lose their toilet bowl eligibility. Its that kind of year.

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Trouble in paradise?

Defense looks surprisingly sharp against the best rusher in the SEC.

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Welp, Mullen is fired. On to the next Coach on a 4-yr term

That's probably not a going to go well. I see no one waiting in the wings that's as good or better but we shall see. I think FSU wins next week.

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Bring back Spurrier...

He's busy with the restaurant, and all

Jags suck, bring back Urban Meyer.

Spurrier, though I love him dearly, is too old, plus he loves his current position. Meyer was a success on the field (for a short while), but he was a hired gun. His heart was never Orange and Blue and he never embraced the fans. It was "us vs. them" and "them" was anybody not in the locker room. He said all the right words (at first), but, then disengaged entirely sending Charlie Strong out to all the gatherings, etc. He also ran a program on the edge of integrity.

All that said, I have no idea who to bring in. I was not a Mullen fan when they hired him, preferring Tom Hermanson over all. But, I read an article recently on all the guys who moved in 2017 and NONE of them had success. Looking back, Mullen has had the most. Lots of "Flavors of the month" out there, but as to which one, I have no idea.

First Dickey, then Pell;
Gator football, gone to Hell.

With Mullen they're sullen,
and of Meyer they'd soon tire.

Maybe a job for
Coach Kerwin Bell?

Come back Emmit !

I like the thought of Kerwin (The Throwin' Mayoan), but not sure he is ready for the big time. But, that was the knock on Spurrier, too. So, what the heck, bring the boy home. It's not like we've had a ton of luck with the flavor of the month over the past 10 years. It would certainly bring a ton of good will (at least at first).

Who is coaching against FSU? They only need one win to be bowl eligible.

I see FSU making huge trouble for my troubled team.

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Both teams need to win to become eligible. Who wants it more? FSU is kind of on the incline with stable coaching, UF...eh...on a decline. But, it's a rivalry, playing for pride and bowl eligible. Both are important factors.

Plus recruiting on the line:
ESPN 300 athlete Isaiah Bond decommitted from Florida on Monday, giving the Gators five total decommitments since October 20 and second since Dan Mullen was fired.

Well, we are a basketball school. The bball team is looking good this year.

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NOV 23, 2021
Forde-Yard Dash: Florida's Football Teams Are Near Rock Bottom
The Sunshine State's seven FBS programs are all flailing in unique fashion.
PAT FORDE

https://www.si.com/college/202...ball-teams-rock-bottom

You getting to any games in this west cost tournament? I am surprised by an almost entire basketball team of transfers but it seems to working very well.

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Sources: Florida has targeted Louisiana's Billy Napier as the school's next coach. An announcement could come as early as this afternoon.
12:48 PM · Nov 28, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

He just was announced an hour ago as UF's next coach.

Needs to put UF recruiting back to the Top

Holy Coaching Carousel.

Lincoln Riley leaves Oklahoma to USC and Brian Kelly drops Notre Dame for LSU.

STATE OF FOOTBALL: In Billy Napier, it looks like the Gators got their man (again)
Ken Willis
The Daytona Beach News-Journal


https://www.news-journalonline...ain-mullen/8793642002/

I like the State Team rankings he has on this article

Bowl selection is Sunday at Noon. Found this on a news site. Hope it happens. Dec 23rd in Tampa:


Gasparilla Bowl
Bowls love regional matchups, and one of the best this year could be in Tampa. The Gasparilla Bowl is likely to get a dream matchup of Florida vs. UCF.

That's the best thing to happen in this bowl's brief history since they stopped calling it the magicJack St. Petersburg Bowl.

Link says Dillon Gabriel has entered the transfer portal. Not a good omen for UCF/Malzahn.

I'd go watch UF/UCF in the Gasparilla Bowl if DG plays and both teams really want to compete, but I get the impression both of them are kinda "over it" at this point.

"I like the State Team rankings he has on this article" Gee, that's a shock. UCF is rated 1st, of course you, the ultimate homer, like it.

I didn't write that article but agree with it. I've watched every one of Gators and UCF game this year and I would say UCF has the ever slight edge. Having a stable coach helps the Knights. Gators already have players dropping out and won't participate in bowl game or in transfer portal (trouble in paradise ). I'm sure UCF will have a few also.

Dillon Gabriel wasn't going to play for UCF again after the injury and that has been well known. Freshman Qb Mikey Keene is serviceable enough to win a bowl game but the next UCF starting Qb isn't currently on the roster. Hopefully the Qb recruit from Georgia coming in is good and can take over. Or, possibly a transfer qb. UCF going into the Big 12 and we will need a good freshman next year for experience into that league.

Hope the gators and knights get lined up and play in Tampa. Just speculation at this point. UCF has a good enough record to look good on a schedule at 8-4. 3rd place in conference. An award would be beating the gators in a bowl game. But, again...who knows nowadays what is in players and coaches heads. It has been an interesting year.

I hope they play too. In state rivalries are always fun. I have two daughters who graduated from UCF, one who buys season tickets. So, let the fun begin!

Bowl games suck with all the coaches and players leaving or sitting it out. I have a hard time even watching anymore and they used to be such a big thing. Reference all of my other rants about that for the details. Sadly, they no longer are.

I was not following it that closely. What were the signs and reasons?

Rumors on a UCF sports chat. Just rumors were coming out 3 weeks before announcement. I ignored them, then it came true.

Dillon Gabriel is a great Qb but if he doesn't want to be at UCF then Buh Bye. I think Malzhan likes the dual threat Qb as evident of the Recruit coming in next year. Think RPO. Gabriel could run, but is more of a pocket passer and a really good one at that. I hope he is succesful whereever he ends up. He was a heisman hopeful at one point.

Send him to UF!

I had not read up on Billy Napier's offense, so, I went online -

"Quarterback Levi Lewis continued to thrive in Napier's system, throwing for 2,274 yards and 19 touchdowns in 2020. Entering his final season, Lewis ranks second in career passing touchdowns (54), third in career passing yards (6,286) and fourth in career completions (485)."

Sounds like he wants to throw the ball which leaves dual threat QBs Jones and Richardson in limbo.

So, how about lending us Gabriel!?

Napier preview. He is coaching for the ragin cajuns for this game.

Saturday Dec 4

3:30pm Appy State (10-2) vs #24 Louisiana (11-1)

It's official. UCF vs Gators, Gasparilla Bowl TAmpa. Dec 23rd 7pm

TROUBLE IN PARADISE...

I just got Two Tix To Paradise...

See ya'll gators in Tampa.

We are getting tix.

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I watched Napier's Ragin Cajuns and, from what I saw, his is a pure drop back passer. I don't think we have one on the bench (as we did when Spurrier came in and picked out Shane Matthews). It will be interesting to see if he can pick one up. So, Gabriel is looking better and better for us, although he is supposed to be taking a trip to Ol Miss and Lane Kiffen.

Gators opened as 6 point favorite and it climbed to 7.5 points. I guess that means the bettors are going with the Gators to win.

The bettors are just crunching numbers. They have no appreciation for how the Gators can disappoint.

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Gators bank on investment in Billy Napier to pay big dividends down the line
By EDGAR THOMPSON
ORLANDO SENTINEL |
DEC 07, 2021

GAINESVILLE - Florida's new coach Billy Napier did not come cheaply, but nothing does anymore in big-time college football.

The price tag for head coaches, along with their assistants, support staffs, recruiting budgets and facility needs continues to rise at a rate that once appeared to be unsustainable.

"Apparently it is because we keep doing it," Gators athletic director Scott Stricklin said.

Contract buyouts once thought prohibitive are a no longer obstacles once a school sets its sights on someone's else coach.

Florida paid Louisiana just $3 million for the rights to hire Napier, but will be on the hook for a pile of cash if he fails with the Gators.

Napier's seven-year, $51.8 million deal guarantees him 85% of what he is owed if let go without cause. If Napier bolts, he has sliding buyout of $7 million before Dec. 31, 2022, with the figure declining each subsequent season.

"The market is what the market is, unfortunately," Stricklin said.
Those conversations have been never-ending in Gainesville.

Excluding Napier's buyout, Florida has spent around $37 million to jettison Will Muschamp, Jim McElwain and Dan Mullen, along with their assistants.

The Gators also reported $54.5 million in losses during the 2020-21 fiscal year due to the pandemic, a figure offset by a $51 million cash reserve and a $23 million infusion by the SEC to each school from future TV earnings.
The financial climate did not dissuade Stricklin.

After agreeing to pay Mullen $12 million upon his Nov. 21 firing, Stricklin sat down two days later with Napier, met his list of demands and offered him the job.

"This was two days before Thanksgiving," Stricklin recalls. "I said, 'We're going to have to have some more conversations, but I want you to know that my goal is for the net result of all these conversations is you're going to accept the head coaching position at the University of Florida.'

"He sat up and goes, 'Well, all right. Let's do it.'"

Conversations ensured to iron out details before Napier's hiring became official Nov. 28.

Napier sold a high-priced vision to an accommodating AD determined to return Florida football to the top of the SEC.

"I want to commend the administration for their willingness to invest in our vision to create an elite player experience here," Napier said.

Stricklin was set to deliver Napier a state-of-the-art standalone football facility scheduled to open in the spring and originally priced $85 million. Supply-chain issues and rising costs of materials could lead to overruns.

Stricklin then agreed to pay nearly $20 million in staff salary in 2022 - $7.1 million for Napier, $7.5 million for his 10 assistants and $5 million for his support staff of analysts and quality control coaches.

Napier said he planned "to hire an army of people," leading Stricklin to joke, "We might have to go build some barracks."

The space is available at the 142,000-square foot Heavener Football Training Center.

Meanwhile, the spigot of money seems never-ending.

Buyer's remorse also is inevitable. Stricklin hopes this is the case no longer at Florida.

"If Billy's as successful as I think he's going to be," Stricklin said, "we're never going to have to have a conversation about buyouts."

someone bump this thread up in 3 years when we are having conversations about Napier's buyouts.

The buyouts should be tied to performance. If you only win 10% of your games, you get 10% of the complete "without cause" buyout amount. That might add some motivation. I think we're seeing a lot of head coaches just phoning it in to secure their retirement.

TRUST ME ..... big time colleges themselves DO NOT pay these exorbitant "buy outs" ...... big time booster/donors do.

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Makes sense; I'd guess they're doing most of the head coach selection as well.

Slightly off topic, but I bet the Jags wish they had an influential booster club:
Here is what's protecting Urban Meyer right now: the Jaguars owe him a ton of money

Ticketmaster is reporting the Gasparilla Bowl is SOLD OUT.

Meyer's Nixonian ability to dig a deeper hole. <-- nice bit of sport's writing!

I had high hopes when Meyer came to UF. They were quickly dashed when I saw what a self-serving person he was and, despite all his high-minded rhetoric, how little integrity he had. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Trouble in Paradise!

It's UCF's superbowl, yada yada yada...prepare to lose gators...

Just some smack talk pre-game. Should be an entertaining game regardless who sits out and who wins or loses. Vegas still has the Gators favored even with the opt-outs. I'm looking forward to an epic tailgate party and hopefully the UCF party continues after the game. Otherwise, its a long drive home for me.


Gators to be without players galore vs. UCF in Gasparilla Bowl
https://www.majorwager.com/gat...0_uinx6ijawFgjSjWatxjQ

Still some good memories

I was a student for all of the Zook years, and my last full year in Gainesville was in 05 during Meyer's first year. It felt good to finally beat Tennessee and see it in person, and didn't realize we were going to do that more often after that. Also blew out the Noles at home.

Quarterback Emory Jones, a redshirt junior, will leave Florida Gators, enter football transfer portal

FYI, Napiers ex team Ragin Cajuns finished the season 13-1 by beating Marshall in the bowl game 36-21

Big news out of yesterday's Gasparilla Bowl Presser is that UCF RB Isaiah Bowser is playing in this game. He is really a difference maker for UCF. I'm expecting a closer game with him in the game as he will tire out the Gator defense and then our speed backs can take over in 2nd half. (knock on wood) I really don't know how the game will go but hoping for an exciting game between UCF and the Gators. Look for me in the stands! I'll be the one with a UCF shirt on. ??. Thursday Night, Dec 23rd. 7pm. ESPN.


From article link below:
"UCF is 3-0 when Bowser touches the ball at least 20 times. He missed the Knights' final three contests, but Malzahn confirmed the running back's availability Monday.

"Bowser's doing good; he'll play," Malzahn said. "It was really good for him to have the time off. He's practiced extremely well, and obviously everybody knows he's a big factor for our offense."

Lake Wales' Johnny Richardson stepped up in Bowser's absence and offers a speedy change-of-pace option to the mix. The 5-foot-7, 170-pound sophomore averaged 6.9 yards per carry across 101 attempts, No. 2 among all qualified AAC runners.

https://www.gainesville.com/st...yers-watch/6241992001/

I am cultivating enough apathy to avoid any disappointment if the Gators lose. Again. I am busting myself with rationalizations, justifications and distractions.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Both teams could lose this game. That is why it's gonna be fun to be there!

As a long time UCF fan I can handle losing. Question is, can the gator fans handle it?

Tailgatin' gonna be fun regardless and weather nice and cool.

Twas the night before Gasparilla Bowl
When all through social media
Not a person was smack talking, not even a gator
The players have opted out and coaches fired
In hopes they don't get injured and make it to the NFL

The fans were nestled in their Black & Gold, and Orange & Blue
While visions of Florida football champions danced in their heads;
And Gus Malzhan in his visor so tight, may throw it down with Spurrier's might
to figure out how to beat the Mighty Gators coached by Who?

Hoping for a great game tonight. See ya'll in Tampa Stadium...

It is the last Friday before the holiday break begins, with five minutes to go until dismissal. The teacher asks her fifth-graders, "What are you looking forward to most about winter break?"

Hands shoot into the air.

One boy says visiting his grandma. A girl says she is going on a cruise with cousins. Then it is time for a boy in the back of the room to answer.

"I'm going to the Gasparilla Bowl between UCF and UF!"

Pandemonium ensues, as the students scream wildly about the game. Another girl chimes in and says she is going with her grandparents, but it might be weird because she is a UCF fan and they are Gators fans.

https://www.espn.com/college-f...pated-games-postseason

Well now

I bow down before the mighty Knights.

The outcome became determined when I bet my daughter a case of La Croix with the score tied. After rooting for the Gators since the 60s I know better - never, never, ever, under any circumstances, bet on the Gators. And, yet...

LOL, I did the same with the hardrock app. Mistakegly bet on UCF. Glad its illegal again and the app don't work!

Great fun game last night. Can't wait to watch it on DVR. I took a bunch of vids and will piece them together.

Big brawl at the end between gator and ucf players midfield after the game. That added to the drama. Next UCF Gator game is in 2024...I'm sure it will be brought up then for the budding rivalry!

Go Knights Go Gators. Fun time, tailgating was ricter, and the game very excited. Tampa traffic sucks also. How anyone lives in that mess is beyond me.

Rumor control has it that Billie Napier was last seen boarding a flight outta Tampa to Lafayette, to beg for his old job back.

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"Most people would die sooner than think; in fact, they do." - Bertrand Russell


"Morality is doing what is right, regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, regardless of what is right.


If I do not answer you .... nothing personal, I just have you on ignore.

I that that UF interim coach Greg Knox's cell phone was being investigated to see if Dan Mullen was secretly texting in play calls.

Pretty sure that was just a stone statue of that dude on the sidelines.



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"Most people would die sooner than think; in fact, they do." - Bertrand Russell


"Morality is doing what is right, regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, regardless of what is right.


If I do not answer you .... nothing personal, I just have you on ignore.

Remarkably poor discipline by gators. Between the penalties and the fights, their impotent rage was on display. They got beat fair and square. Congratulations knights. They have earned the right to talk smack.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

(I say this as a longtime Gator fan, so, it isn't the usual Gator hater BS.) It is low rent when teams lose and then start a fight. If you want to show how tough you are, do it on the field within the rules. To start a fight, especially when you are talking sh_t, after a game and especially after you have had your hat handed to you, shows you to be a big mouthed pussy, not a badass.

Agreed. The scoreboard punches loudest and hardest.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Raw Video of the vids I took. Gonna work on condensing all the vids and make a quickee vid on the highlights.

Here's the full top 25 to end the season.

AP Top 25

1. Georgia (14-1)

2. Alabama (13-2)

3. Michigan (12-2)

4. Cincinnati (13-1)

5. Baylor (12-2)

6. Ohio State (11-2)

7. Oklahoma State (12-2)

8. Notre Dame (11-2)

9. Michigan State (11-2)

10. Oklahoma (11-2)

11. Ole Miss (10-3)

12. Utah (10-4)

13. Pitt (11-3)

14. Clemson (10-3)

15. Wake Forest (11-3)

16. Louisiana (13-1)

17. Houston (12-2)

18. Kentucky (10-3)

19. Brigham Young (10-3)

20. North Carolina State (9-3)

21. Arkansas (9-4)

22. Oregon (10-4)

23. Iowa (10-4)

24. Utah State (11-3)

25. San Diego State (12-2)

Others receiving votes: Texas A&M 115, Wisconsin 97, Minnesota 47, Purdue 44, UTSA 9, Army 6, Coastal Carolina 2, Fresno State 2, Air Force 1, UAB 1

Dropped from rankings: Texas A&M 23, UTSA 24

And, here we go again...Way too early 2022 poll

22. Florida
Florida is pressing the reset button with Billy Napier, and it is worth knowing that former Gators coaches Jim McElwain and Dan Mullen hit 10 wins in their first seasons in 2015 and 2018, respectively. Florida has talent, and Napier should be able to mold that into an SEC East contender sooner rather than later. Quarterback Anthony Richardson is in line for a breakout season.

Also, No UCF anywhere and we returning most all the players with great transfer and recruits AND same coaching staff.

I think I'll wait to see what Phil Steele says...

Link:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/spor...arly-top-25/ar-AASD14n