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Topic Title: Here we go again
Topic Summary: Activer shooter TX school
Created On: 05/18/2018 06:41 AM
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 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/18/2018 06:41 AM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/18/2018 07:41 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/18/2018 08:05 AM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/18/2018 08:55 AM  
 Here we go again   - Greensleeves - 05/18/2018 08:57 AM  
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 Here we go again   - 3rdworldlover - 05/18/2018 09:38 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/18/2018 11:33 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/18/2018 12:27 PM  
 Here we go again   - fishkller - 05/18/2018 11:45 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/18/2018 11:48 AM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/18/2018 12:03 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/18/2018 12:17 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/18/2018 12:36 PM  
 Here we go again   - 3rdworldlover - 05/18/2018 12:45 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/18/2018 12:44 PM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/18/2018 12:45 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/18/2018 12:50 PM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/18/2018 01:24 PM  
 Here we go again   - fishkller - 05/19/2018 12:13 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/18/2018 12:47 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/18/2018 01:35 PM  
 Here we go again   - nukeh2o - 05/18/2018 03:17 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/18/2018 05:52 PM  
 Here we go again   - scombrid - 05/18/2018 06:29 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/19/2018 08:41 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/19/2018 10:36 AM  
 Here we go again   - RiddleMe - 05/19/2018 11:25 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/19/2018 11:32 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/19/2018 12:11 PM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/20/2018 04:44 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/20/2018 05:09 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/20/2018 04:11 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 04:18 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 04:21 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 04:23 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 04:27 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 04:43 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/20/2018 04:58 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 05:09 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 05:17 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 05:20 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 05:28 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 05:35 PM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/20/2018 08:12 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 05:15 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 05:17 AM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/20/2018 05:30 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 05:05 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/20/2018 06:08 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 06:45 PM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/21/2018 05:09 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/18/2018 06:42 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/18/2018 07:20 PM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/18/2018 07:38 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/19/2018 07:56 AM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/20/2018 10:12 AM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/20/2018 10:12 AM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 10:46 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 01:09 PM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/18/2018 07:36 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/19/2018 07:51 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/19/2018 07:54 AM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/19/2018 02:11 PM  
 Here we go again   - RiddleMe - 05/19/2018 02:18 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/19/2018 02:50 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/19/2018 03:38 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/20/2018 01:55 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/20/2018 02:02 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/20/2018 02:06 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 02:17 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 02:21 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 02:25 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 02:30 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 03:54 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 04:07 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 02:05 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 02:20 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/19/2018 03:35 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/19/2018 08:13 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/19/2018 10:31 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/19/2018 10:31 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/20/2018 05:54 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 06:40 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/20/2018 08:53 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/20/2018 04:23 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/20/2018 04:35 AM  
 Here we go again   - dingpatch - 05/20/2018 04:49 AM  
 Here we go again   - LBLarry - 05/20/2018 09:32 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/20/2018 07:14 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 08:35 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/20/2018 07:21 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/20/2018 08:56 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/20/2018 01:03 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/20/2018 01:10 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 01:13 PM  
 Here we go again   - Northjetty101 - 05/20/2018 04:16 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/20/2018 07:06 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 04:55 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 05:15 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 05:17 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 05:25 AM  
 Here we go again   - 3rdworldlover - 05/21/2018 07:43 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 07:50 AM  
 Here we go again   - jdbman - 05/21/2018 08:12 AM  
 Here we go again   - worksuxgetsponsered - 05/21/2018 09:17 AM  
 Here we go again   - 426Blue - 05/21/2018 09:44 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 10:16 AM  
 Here we go again   - LBLarry - 05/21/2018 10:49 AM  
 Here we go again   - 426Blue - 05/21/2018 12:54 PM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/21/2018 01:24 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 01:34 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 03:41 PM  
 Here we go again   - dingpatch - 05/21/2018 03:46 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/21/2018 03:56 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/22/2018 03:01 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 04:29 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 09:42 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/21/2018 09:47 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 10:12 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/21/2018 10:23 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 10:31 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/21/2018 10:32 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 10:43 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 04:47 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/22/2018 05:02 AM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/22/2018 05:03 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 06:23 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/22/2018 06:30 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 07:34 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 06:32 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 05:09 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/22/2018 05:46 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 06:20 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/22/2018 07:08 AM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/22/2018 06:35 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 06:42 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 07:22 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 07:38 AM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/22/2018 07:50 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 08:15 AM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/22/2018 08:52 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 09:59 AM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/22/2018 11:30 AM  
 Here we go again   - damonsharp - 05/22/2018 11:50 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 11:54 AM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/22/2018 12:11 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/23/2018 08:11 AM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/22/2018 12:33 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 09:00 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/22/2018 12:40 PM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/23/2018 08:14 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/23/2018 08:18 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/23/2018 08:51 AM  
 Here we go again   - worksuxgetsponsered - 05/23/2018 09:34 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/23/2018 09:42 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/23/2018 10:05 AM  
 Here we go again   - worksuxgetsponsered - 05/23/2018 10:20 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/26/2018 07:22 AM  
 Here we go again   - 3rdworldlover - 05/23/2018 10:41 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/23/2018 10:45 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/26/2018 07:23 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/26/2018 10:21 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/27/2018 04:56 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/27/2018 05:47 AM  
 Here we go again   - fishkller - 05/27/2018 07:20 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/27/2018 05:52 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/28/2018 06:46 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/28/2018 10:20 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/28/2018 11:22 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/28/2018 12:13 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/28/2018 07:14 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/29/2018 04:48 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/29/2018 04:50 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/29/2018 05:09 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/29/2018 06:28 AM  
 Here we go again   - fishkller - 05/28/2018 07:01 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/28/2018 11:21 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/28/2018 01:24 PM  
 Here we go again   - fishkller - 05/28/2018 03:27 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/28/2018 05:01 PM  
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 05/22/2018 09:59 AM
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miker

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Not that I'm aware of.

I would also attach civil and perhaps criminal liability for failure to secure firearms resulting in injury or death. I think if your weapons are taken and used, you should forfeit your right to own a gun.


I think if you do your due diligence and follow the rules, then you shouldn't be held accountable. Shit is always going to get stolen no matter how well you secure it. However, in cases where a father gives guns back to his psycho kid who then shoots up a school ....yeah, pops should be held accountable.
 05/22/2018 11:30 AM
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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: miker
I think if you do your due diligence and follow the rules, then you shouldn't be held accountable. Shit is always going to get stolen no matter how well you secure it. However, in cases where a father gives guns back to his psycho kid who then shoots up a school ....yeah, pops should be held accountable.


What rules are you referring to? I'm not aware of any requirement to own a gun safe or secure weapons. How many kids have been shot or shot someone else because they found grandma's .38 in the nightstand?

EDIT - I was mistaken, here it is:

790.174?Safe storage of firearms required. -
(1)?A person who stores or leaves, on a premise under his or her control, a loaded firearm, as defined in s. 790.001, and who knows or reasonably should know that a minor is likely to gain access to the firearm without the lawful permission of the minor's parent or the person having charge of the minor, or without the supervision required by law, shall keep the firearm in a securely locked box or container or in a location which a reasonable person would believe to be secure or shall secure it with a trigger lock, except when the person is carrying the firearm on his or her body or within such close proximity thereto that he or she can retrieve and use it as easily and quickly as if he or she carried it on his or her body.
(2)?It is a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, if a person violates subsection (1) by failing to store or leave a firearm in the required manner and as a result thereof a minor gains access to the firearm, without the lawful permission of the minor's parent or the person having charge of the minor, and possesses or exhibits it, without the supervision required by law:
(a)?In a public place; or
(b)?In a rude, careless, angry, or threatening manner in violation of s. 790.10.
This subsection does not apply if the minor obtains the firearm as a result of an unlawful entry by any person.

1(3)?As used in this act, the term "minor" means any person under the age of 16.



These laws need to be enforced, but it reads like it's only enforceable after an incident.

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 05/22/2018 11:50 AM
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damonsharp

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That's a pretty specific law. I'd like to see it get enforced.

Just about every state has some pretty broad laws concerning gross negligence, contributing to delinquency, child neglect, etc. etc.

In some places, having uncovered electrical outlets can get one's children placed in foster care. In most, having liquor where kids can get at in can result in some stiff penalties. It's even conceivable in some states that if a trespasser is injured on your property due to your lack of maintaining the premises, you could face a civil suit and possibly, if the letter of the locality's law were followed, be found liable.

But load a gun and leave it in easy access of a toddler? No worries mate! NRA has got your back!

In most states, a little girl can't legally run a lemonade stand without a health permit. She must also make sure her fees are paid and her filings are current. However, you can give her a .22. She can trade you a shotgun for it. There doesn't need to be any paperwork, cuz what if she wants to form a well regulated militia and resist King George n' stuff?

It's a crazy world, full of crazy people.
 05/22/2018 11:54 AM
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HAPDigital

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And you can even get detained by ICE just for speaking Spanish in public.
 05/22/2018 12:11 PM
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Sparky

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Tax firearms, ban firearms, increase mental health I don't care. Until the schools are secured the slaughter will continue.

 05/23/2018 08:11 AM
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miker

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Originally posted by: Sparky
Until the schools are secured the slaughter will continue.


Agreed. No amount of gun legislation is going to stop it in a timely enough manner.
 05/22/2018 12:33 PM
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stokedpanda

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Originally posted by: damonsharp

In most states, a little girl can't legally run a lemonade stand without a health permit. She must also make sure her fees are paid and her filings are current. However, you can give her a .22. She can trade you a shotgun for it. There doesn't need to be any paperwork, cuz what if she wants to form a well regulated militia and resist King George n' stuff?



It's a crazy world, full of crazy people.


LOL It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world.

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