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Topic Title: historical monuments
Topic Summary: text from a 1913 dedication speech
Created On: 08/17/2017 07:06 AM
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 historical monuments   - scombrid - 08/17/2017 07:06 AM  
 historical monuments   - 3rdworldlover - 08/17/2017 07:13 AM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/17/2017 08:22 AM  
 historical monuments   - Greensleeves - 08/17/2017 08:27 AM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/17/2017 08:47 AM  
 historical monuments   - cheaterfiveo - 08/17/2017 01:59 PM  
 historical monuments   - 3rdworldlover - 08/17/2017 08:29 AM  
 historical monuments   - RustyTruck - 08/17/2017 09:27 AM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/17/2017 12:15 PM  
 historical monuments   - scombrid - 08/17/2017 02:26 PM  
 historical monuments   - johnnyboy - 08/17/2017 10:36 AM  
 historical monuments   - Pagerow - 08/17/2017 11:18 AM  
 historical monuments   - SuperTeeBird - 08/17/2017 11:43 AM  
 historical monuments   - wtf - 08/17/2017 12:44 PM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/17/2017 12:37 PM  
 historical monuments   - wtf - 08/17/2017 12:42 PM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/17/2017 12:46 PM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/17/2017 01:17 PM  
 historical monuments   - scombrid - 08/17/2017 06:07 PM  
 historical monuments   - scombrid - 08/17/2017 06:10 PM  
 historical monuments   - wtf - 08/17/2017 12:52 PM  
 historical monuments   - wtf - 08/17/2017 01:49 PM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/17/2017 02:10 PM  
 historical monuments   - all3 - 08/17/2017 02:35 PM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/17/2017 02:38 PM  
 historical monuments   - all3 - 08/17/2017 02:42 PM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/17/2017 03:03 PM  
 historical monuments   - all3 - 08/17/2017 03:37 PM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/17/2017 04:37 PM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/17/2017 05:04 PM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/17/2017 05:35 PM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/17/2017 05:47 PM  
 historical monuments   - all3 - 08/17/2017 06:04 PM  
 historical monuments   - wbsponger - 08/17/2017 06:06 PM  
 historical monuments   - cheaterfiveo - 08/17/2017 06:00 PM  
 historical monuments   - all3 - 08/17/2017 06:26 PM  
 historical monuments   - cheaterfiveo - 08/17/2017 06:38 PM  
 historical monuments   - all3 - 08/17/2017 07:13 PM  
 historical monuments   - johnnyboy - 08/17/2017 02:09 PM  
 historical monuments   - RustyTruck - 08/17/2017 06:02 PM  
 historical monuments   - RustyTruck - 08/17/2017 06:10 PM  
 historical monuments   - fishkller - 08/17/2017 06:23 PM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/17/2017 06:38 PM  
 historical monuments   - all3 - 08/17/2017 07:23 PM  
 historical monuments   - all3 - 08/17/2017 07:39 PM  
 historical monuments   - wbsponger - 08/17/2017 07:54 PM  
 historical monuments   - Cole - 08/17/2017 07:56 PM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/17/2017 08:08 PM  
 historical monuments   - Cole - 08/17/2017 10:26 PM  
 historical monuments   - ww - 08/17/2017 11:10 PM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/18/2017 03:54 AM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/18/2017 04:39 AM  
 historical monuments   - Cole - 08/18/2017 04:42 AM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/18/2017 05:29 AM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/18/2017 05:34 AM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/18/2017 05:54 AM  
 historical monuments   - wbsponger - 08/18/2017 07:22 AM  
 historical monuments   - wbsponger - 08/18/2017 07:27 AM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/18/2017 07:28 AM  
 historical monuments   - wtf - 08/18/2017 07:31 AM  
 historical monuments   - Cole - 08/18/2017 07:41 AM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/18/2017 07:45 AM  
 historical monuments   - wbsponger - 08/18/2017 07:56 AM  
 historical monuments   - wbsponger - 08/18/2017 08:01 AM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/18/2017 08:10 AM  
 historical monuments   - wbsponger - 08/18/2017 08:33 AM  
 historical monuments   - cheaterfiveo - 08/18/2017 09:58 AM  
 historical monuments   - wbsponger - 08/18/2017 10:01 AM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/17/2017 07:54 PM  
 historical monuments   - chopola - 08/18/2017 07:54 AM  
 historical monuments   - RustyTruck - 08/17/2017 07:18 PM  
 historical monuments   - 3rdworldlover - 08/18/2017 08:38 AM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/18/2017 08:59 AM  
 historical monuments   - Cole - 08/18/2017 09:03 AM  
 historical monuments   - wbsponger - 08/18/2017 09:22 AM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/18/2017 10:50 AM  
 historical monuments   - obx2 - 08/18/2017 09:49 AM  
 historical monuments   - 3rdworldlover - 08/20/2017 10:41 AM  
 historical monuments   - johnnyboy - 08/20/2017 10:59 AM  
 historical monuments   - all3 - 08/20/2017 11:33 AM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/20/2017 12:19 PM  
 historical monuments   - somebodyelse - 08/20/2017 01:06 PM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/20/2017 01:11 PM  
 historical monuments   - all3 - 08/20/2017 02:06 PM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/20/2017 04:31 PM  
 historical monuments   - Cole - 08/20/2017 04:49 PM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/20/2017 04:56 PM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/20/2017 04:57 PM  
 historical monuments   - Cole - 08/20/2017 05:07 PM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/20/2017 05:12 PM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/20/2017 05:48 PM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/20/2017 06:27 PM  
 historical monuments   - Cole - 08/20/2017 07:27 PM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/20/2017 07:50 PM  
 historical monuments   - Cole - 08/20/2017 07:56 PM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/20/2017 07:57 PM  
 historical monuments   - theglide - 08/20/2017 05:17 PM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/20/2017 05:30 PM  
 historical monuments   - dingpatch - 08/20/2017 05:46 PM  
 historical monuments   - somebodyelse - 08/21/2017 08:26 AM  
 historical monuments   - all3 - 08/21/2017 11:08 AM  
 historical monuments   - somebodyelse - 08/21/2017 11:35 AM  
 historical monuments   - SuperTeeBird - 08/21/2017 12:04 PM  
 historical monuments   - all3 - 08/22/2017 05:23 PM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/20/2017 08:03 PM  
 historical monuments   - Cole - 08/20/2017 08:10 PM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/20/2017 08:21 PM  
 historical monuments   - Cole - 08/20/2017 08:41 PM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/20/2017 08:49 PM  
 historical monuments   - wtf - 08/21/2017 04:27 AM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/21/2017 04:47 AM  
 historical monuments   - wtf - 08/21/2017 04:52 AM  
 historical monuments   - Cole - 08/21/2017 06:29 AM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/21/2017 07:27 AM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/21/2017 07:35 AM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/21/2017 07:47 AM  
 historical monuments   - Pagerow - 08/21/2017 07:48 AM  
 historical monuments   - 3rdworldlover - 08/21/2017 08:06 AM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/21/2017 07:49 AM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/21/2017 07:51 AM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/21/2017 07:54 AM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/21/2017 07:58 AM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/21/2017 08:01 AM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/21/2017 08:03 AM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/21/2017 08:34 AM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/21/2017 10:47 AM  
 historical monuments   - 3rdworldlover - 08/21/2017 12:55 PM  
 historical monuments   - HAPDigital - 08/21/2017 12:57 PM  
 historical monuments   - crankit - 08/21/2017 07:58 AM  
 historical monuments   - WG - 08/21/2017 08:30 AM  
 historical monuments   - wtf - 08/21/2017 12:05 PM  
 historical monuments   - SuperTeeBird - 08/21/2017 12:08 PM  
 historical monuments   - RustyTruck - 08/21/2017 12:19 PM  
 historical monuments   - somebodyelse - 08/21/2017 03:35 PM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/21/2017 01:12 PM  
 historical monuments   - Cole - 08/21/2017 01:18 PM  
 historical monuments   - theglide - 08/21/2017 03:28 PM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/21/2017 06:27 PM  
 historical monuments   - scombrid - 08/22/2017 05:59 PM  
 historical monuments   - WG - 08/21/2017 04:09 PM  
 historical monuments   - jdbman - 08/21/2017 04:30 PM  
 historical monuments   - WG - 08/21/2017 04:32 PM  
 historical monuments   - foam ball - 08/21/2017 04:45 PM  
 historical monuments   - Cole - 08/21/2017 07:52 PM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/21/2017 08:47 PM  
 historical monuments   - scombrid - 08/22/2017 06:03 PM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/23/2017 11:00 AM  
 historical monuments   - foam ball - 08/21/2017 09:37 PM  
 historical monuments   - Cole - 08/21/2017 10:28 PM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/22/2017 04:19 AM  
 historical monuments   - crankit - 08/22/2017 05:08 AM  
 historical monuments   - RustyTruck - 08/21/2017 05:18 PM  
 historical monuments   - wtf - 08/22/2017 05:19 AM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/22/2017 05:29 AM  
 historical monuments   - Fish Killer - 08/22/2017 05:55 AM  
 historical monuments   - SuperTeeBird - 08/22/2017 06:29 AM  
 historical monuments   - johnnyboy - 08/22/2017 05:52 PM  
 historical monuments   - WG - 08/23/2017 11:16 AM  
 historical monuments   - foam ball - 08/23/2017 07:27 PM  
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 08/18/2017 07:31 AM
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wtf

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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Originally posted by: obx2

Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: obx2
Originally posted by: wbsponger Obx who then decided to have the monuments removed?  
Like I said, if there was a vote held, and the majority wanted them removed, then so be it. There was no vote/input from the public. It was just done by order of the mayor.  In fact, the 4 more removed in Baltimore were done at night. Fcking cowards........
You now ignore reality. Cowards want monuments of traitors and slavers.




You mean like this one? You litteraly suppor the actions of fools, who are ignorant of history, and don't even know what the fck they are doing. They are just doing it like a bunch of rabid freaks.




I'll use the liberal tactic of the false equivalent. You support these fools who are ignorant of history, therefore you yourself must be ignorant of history. And, one more time, America never considered them traitors,  untill now. In fact thet are legaly Veterans. But I wouldnt expect someone who is ingnorant of history such as yourself to grasp that. You literaly are supported the removal of statues of Vetrans....sit on that one for a second HAP.  




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Never said I support illegal removal of statues. Not once...

I did not see one person supporting illegal removal of statues. Based on obies comments, he has confused his mind with what my and others message/opinion actually is and has reverted to labels, none of which i am, but call me whatever you want to make yourself feel better, makes no diff to me...



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 08/18/2017 07:41 AM
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Yep, ripping the statues down is wrong and the people who did it will be charged. Do I understand why they did it? Yes, 100%. Knee jerk reaction seldom end well.

I've never even seen a Confederate statue, are they any in Central Florida?

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 08/18/2017 07:45 AM
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obx2

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Originally posted by: wtf
Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: obx2
Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: obx2
Originally posted by: wbsponger Obx who then decided to have the monuments removed?  
Like I said, if there was a vote held, and the majority wanted them removed, then so be it. There was no vote/input from the public. It was just done by order of the mayor.  In fact, the 4 more removed in Baltimore were done at night. Fcking cowards........
You now ignore reality. Cowards want monuments of traitors and slavers.

 

You mean like this one? You litteraly suppor the actions of fools, who are ignorant of history, and don't even know what the fck they are doing. They are just doing it like a bunch of rabid freaks.

 

I'll use the liberal tactic of the false equivalent. You support these fools who are ignorant of history, therefore you yourself must be ignorant of history. And, one more time, America never considered them traitors,  untill now. In fact thet are legaly Veterans. But I wouldnt expect someone who is ingnorant of history such as yourself to grasp that. You literaly are supported the removal of statues of Vetrans....sit on that one for a second HAP.  

 

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Never said I support illegal removal of statues. Not once...
I did not see one person supporting illegal removal of statues. Based on obies comments, he has confused his mind with what my and others message/opinion actually is and has reverted to labels, none of which i am, but call me whatever you want to make yourself feel better, makes no diff to me...

I don't direct any labels to you, personally, WTF. The only two people I am labeling are Rusty, and Jdbman, because of their support of fascist tactics and/or being guilty of performing them.

I am OK with you supporting the legal removal of these statues. Doesn't mean it doesn't piss me off, to a great extent. The point I was trying to make about the peace statute is, these are the people who want them removed. Yet they are ignorant of history. Like I said, and I would love for someone to do a "boots on the ground" type of investigation,  I'd be willing to bet most in support of removal can't even name one battle, much less the dates of the civil war without Googleing it.

What I am not OK with, is the support of what the left wing terrorists did in VA, in repsonse to a legal, excerscise of the 1st amendmant. I am not OK with being labeled a "Nazi sympathizer" because I am really just supporting the 1st amendmant (even though I've said over and over again these guys are clowns). I am also not OK with the pass given to these terrorists by the media, and therefore gobbled up, and regurtitated by the useful idiots.

 08/18/2017 07:56 AM
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wbsponger

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Most of the people with stars and bars flying from their truck couldn't tell you anything about the civil war either.

You don't have to be a civil war school to be justified in wanting them give. You just have to know the basics: The war was fought to preserve the right for one race to own another. 

 

 08/18/2017 08:01 AM
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wbsponger

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And young obx I actually agree with most of your second paragraph. I support the right of morons to speak freely showing the world what morons they are. This could be Nazi antifa or whomever. In Charlottesville both sides came armed for battle and they got it. Sadly one side stopped it up from battling each other to the murder ofinnocent people 

 

 08/18/2017 08:10 AM
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obx2

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Originally posted by: wbsponger Most of the people with stars and bars flying from their truck couldn't tell you anything about the civil war either.

 

You don't have to be a civil war school to be justified in wanting them give. You just have to know the basics: The war was fought to preserve the right for one race to own another. 

 

 

 

Thank you for proving my point. Although it may be easier to understand it from such a myopic stance, the events that lead to the South not being allowed to secede from the Union are way more complex that that. I tried to list some of the events leading up to in, in the context of that time. But then I was labeled as "justifying slavery" and my attempt flew right over the heads of the myopics.

Most of the people flying the flag aren't doing so because of their knowledge of the Civil War, they are doing it as a symbol of their culture. Just like the rainbow flag flown by the LGBT community. However, the ones condemeing it, don't even know why they are flying it, and falsely eqaute them to treason. Its a damn shame for an entire culutre to be villianized, and removed because of the ignorance of others. This is your vision of America?

 08/18/2017 08:33 AM
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wbsponger

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I don't understand. What point have I proved?

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