What a difference that link shows with the solid swell and proper form satbch!  I think it's very important to not look at little fun windswell pics/vids and think something is different.. That link shows what we now miss when a real swell is in the water.. The right wind swell still wedges/barrells there good enough but that isn't what made it famous!

Thanks for the Surfline link FPP that's awesome you got to sit down with them, so you must have their contact info so reach out for collaboration and their input on the science (I will contact as well via email)...

And that's why I mentioned LOLA because it's incredible but the potential/logic of it can't just be limited to forecasts.  LOLA could be tailored to show how groundswell filters into 1st with different swell parameters on a scale local to Sebastian Inlet so we'd know whether or not this factor has changed at all.

Like they've done for Long Island, NY and the Hudson Canyon/Channel for past swells.  And like it can explain Scripps Pier getting robbed when Blacks goes off.  If swell isn't getting in and/or focused the same compared with previous bathymetry input then that's by far a bigger problem than details on what would make it wedgier or hollower (we wouldn't wonder why Scripps isn't barrelling when Black's is right)?  We know Monster Hole has gained sand, that box is checked, so we need to dig a little further there, to have a breakthrough or rule it out.

Don't over complicate... Before the wave was excellent and now it's not.  Start making comparisons, checking boxes, and narrowing down possibilities.

Also, what about a scaled down mini version of your idea via two tests (1. current version with solid core but outer/open pillings, 2. same thing but with closed off pillings), then generate adjacent wave energy that is a constant and measure the change in reflective energy between the two.

Bringing back a wave is a pipe dream by all means but if you can understand the physical properties it would take then you can know whether or not it's possible for it to become more than just a pipe dream.. This is the stage this project is in imho so keep pushing because it's possible to know more still!

pompano Your offer to the FPP is very commendable. Much respect for making the commitment to support them. Having said that, your last comment was pretty disrespectful. If someone makes a statement with facts to back it up, what's amateur about that? I'm supporting the FPP by pointing out things that align with their analysis. It is a fact that the worm rock has built back up on the outer pilings over the last few months. Anyone can go there and see it plain as day. It is also a fact that there is more reflection happening now than there was a few months ago as anyone who surfs there on a regular basis will tell you. For matt_t it is also a fact that the camera does not lie and that there is more sand on the beach and in the surf zone now than there was on August 15th. Both pics were within 30 minutes of low tide and in the August image you can clearly see the stack of old broken pilings near shore that are now covered up in the image from today. If you're going start talking about sand being shifted in the nearshore zone (beyond the surf line), that's purely conjecture and I highly doubt you have any evidence to support that. Why did I bother chasing this? If we're going to have a truly meaningful discussion on this topic, we need to actually use facts and not simply throw unsubstantiated comments out there.