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Topic Title: Immigrant families separated at border struggle to find each other Topic Summary: Created On: 05/26/2018 09:01 PM |
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- cheaterfiveo | - 06/08/2018 06:18 PM |
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- cheaterfiveo | - 06/01/2018 11:17 AM |
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05/30/2018 06:41 AM
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One day the notion of an arbitrary "border" on Earth will be as quaint and archaic as religion. Cool story. I hope that is the eventual truth as it may be the only way we are able to prevent destroying ourselves. Unfortunately that idea does not match our current reality and this reality is what you are contending with. Borders are real, people fight and die over them, and each nation has its own rules that you need to play by. I mean seriously, didn't you mention you were trying to get dual citizenship in Italy? Why bother playing by the rules there if you don't think they should apply here? |
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05/30/2018 06:59 AM
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One day the notion of an arbitrary "border" on Earth will be as quaint and archaic as religion. Cool story. I hope that is the eventual truth as it may be the only way we are able to prevent destroying ourselves. Unfortunately that idea does not match our current reality and this reality is what you are contending with. Borders are real, people fight and die over them, and each nation has its own rules that you need to play by. I mean seriously, didn't you mention you were trying to get dual citizenship in Italy? Why bother playing by the rules there if you don't think they should apply here? Well since we're on cool stories, I'll accept your segue into citizenship. You see, Italy (at least as of today, there's a political crisis going on) is a member of the European Union. If you are a citizen of any EU member state, you can move freely and live or work anywhere in Europe. Italy is beautiful, but it opens a lot of doors. But back to the other cool story. A nation is nothing but a tribe, or a gang even. It may lay claim to "territory" and injure or kill people who try to pass through. Many people from opposing tribes may die fighting over land and borders, but in the end they mostly die in vain to protect the property of their own exploiters. For you, I see you accept the existence of these imaginary lines. That's not going to change overnight. But poor people who try to cross over to find work to feed their children or to find safety from violence are essentially powerless, and those who treat them with cruelty and violence will pay a price. ------------------------- "Hey, where's Cricket?" - Kristi Noem's daughter. |
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05/30/2018 07:05 AM
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For you, I see you accept the existence of these imaginary lines. Seems like you are saying that there aren't borders while at the same time willingly accept playing by the rules of a country that uses borders to defines its boundaries. Your views don't match your actions yet again. Oh Rusty, the entire world accepts the existence of borders... even the people that cross them illegally. |
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05/30/2018 07:23 AM
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That's effing racist according to some. Why can't ~12 M others, move freely, live and work anywhere in Europe? That's what many expect from the US.... edit: and FWIW I have no problem with immigration. I'm 1st generation American, formerly married to a Colombian and a HUGE fan of latina bootys. I am all for making the immigration process quicker and more reasonable. ------------------------- Specializing in sarcasm and condescending rhetoric since 1971. Edited: 05/30/2018 at 07:34 AM by worksuxgetsponsered |
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05/30/2018 08:25 AM
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For you, I see you accept the existence of these imaginary lines. Seems like you are saying that there aren't borders while at the same time willingly accept playing by the rules of a country that uses borders to defines its boundaries. Your views don't match your actions yet again. Oh Rusty, the entire world accepts the existence of borders... even the people that cross them illegally. What I said, or intended to say, is that borders are arbitrary inventions; and to mete out cruelty to helpless people because they are on this side or the other of an imaginary line is morally repugnant, and as an American who knows full well all you mother F'ers people came from somewhere else, I think is a national disgrace. @Worksux - You seriously think trump doesn't know exactly what he's doing with the racist dog whistle? Or do you just want to believe him? ------------------------- "Hey, where's Cricket?" - Kristi Noem's daughter. |
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05/30/2018 08:34 AM
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What I said, or intended to say, is that borders are arbitrary inventions You might want to rethink your use of the word arbitrary there because it is doesn't apply. There is nothing arbitrary about borders between nations Rusty. Question for you, if borders don't matter to you, then why are you so concerned if people are or aren't allowed to cross your imaginary lines? |
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06/08/2018 06:18 PM
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For you, I see you accept the existence of these imaginary lines. [ Seems like you are saying that there aren't borders while at the same time willingly accept playing by the rules of a country that uses borders to defines its boundaries. Your views don't match your actions yet again. Oh Rusty, the entire world accepts the existence of borders... even the people that cross them illegally. What I said, or intended to say, is that borders are arbitrary inventions; and to mete out cruelty to helpless people because they are on this side or the other of an imaginary line is morally repugnant, and as an American who knows full well all you mother F'ers people came from somewhere else, I think is a national disgrace. @Worksux - You seriously think trump doesn't know exactly what he's doing with the racist dog whistle? Or do you just want to believe him? good fences make good neighbors; do you own a fence? |
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