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Topic Summary: Deficit increases...
Created On: 01/13/2025 08:26 AM
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 01/13/2025 08:26 AM
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johnnyboy

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Can someone please explain why Trump thinks reducing revenues and raising the ceiling on our debt limit will not put us further in debt? Its a math problem so if you have a long explanation about trickle down economics and believe tax cuts pay for themselves, please see the current debt.

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 01/13/2025 08:56 AM
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Trump hasn't said anything about reducing revenues. And he has said a lot about reducing spending. So, your premise is an attempted hoax. Post this on some prog forum and you'll get the answer that you want. But you won't here as long as I am around.

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 01/13/2025 09:21 AM
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Let me dumb this down for you, Tpap, reducing taxes means reducing revenues. I think we have found the reason why the problem exists in Republicans in one post.

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 01/13/2025 09:24 AM
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It's all about the tariffs, baby!
That and buying Greenland, Canada, and the Panama Canal....
And deporting the undocumented and filling those jobs with Americans, at a higher cost.

But it is really about the tariffs cuz that will cure everything.
Really, that is what Trump is hoping...



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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

Let me dumb this down for you, Tpap, reducing taxes means reducing revenues. I think we have found the reason why the problem exists in Republicans in one post.



and down for the count he goes!



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 01/13/2025 03:18 PM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Trump hasn't said anything about reducing revenues. And he has said a lot about reducing spending. So, your premise is an attempted hoax. Post this on some prog forum and you'll get the answer that you want. But you won't here as long as I am around.


He fighting to raise the debt ceiling.

That's a useless effort if you are going to cut spending, is it not?



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 01/13/2025 03:47 PM
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He fighting to raise the debt ceiling. That's a useless effort if you are going to cut spending, is it not?
Two completely different things.

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 01/13/2025 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by: tpapablo

He fighting to raise the debt ceiling.

That's a useless effort if you are going to cut spending, is it not?


Two completely different things.


Bullshit.



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 01/14/2025 10:20 AM
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Math, its real. Its also important to understand so lets take the time to educate you. If we bring in ten dollars from taxes, and we spend 15 dollars, we will run a deficit. If we keep spending 15 and reducing the taxes to 5, the deficit gets even bigger faster.

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 01/14/2025 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy
Math, its real. Its also important to understand so lets take the time to educate you. If we bring in ten dollars from taxes, and we spend 15 dollars, we will run a deficit. If we keep spending 15 and reducing the taxes to 5, the deficit gets even bigger faster.


To them, if Daddy DonOld lies about something, they think its the truth.

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 01/14/2025 10:36 AM
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I mean both the deficit and spending exploded under Trump, and he inherited an economy that was on the upswing but left us with a disaster. His predecessor also set deficit reduction in motion and was the first to move the wealth gap disparity needle in the right direction. There are data, facts, and charts, but they choose faith in their trickle down mythology every time.
 01/14/2025 12:49 PM
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tpapablo

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Math, its real.
According to you fools, math is racist. So, why are you bringing your racism into this debate, pro-slaver?

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 01/14/2025 06:37 PM
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Not racist, real. Focus. Math. You get points for understanding that taking in less money from tax revenues and spending more money means the deficit grows. Trump wants to increase the debt limit to spend more and he keeps promising to make the tax cuts permanent. Is this something you can comprehend or are you going to sing along to your catch phrases?

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 01/15/2025 06:26 AM
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Cole

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Tfap should do himself a favor and just stop talking. lol

He used to spout about Trump's record tax collecting until he finally understood that any increase is a new record. Tclown is the perfect maga. He thinks he won, even though he was lapped by the competition.

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 01/15/2025 06:28 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole Tfap should do himself a favor and just stop talking. lol He used to spout about Trump's record tax collecting until he finally understood that any increase is a new record. Tclown is the perfect maga. He thinks he won, even though he was lapped by the competition.
You voted for a senile candidate and followed that up by voting for a ditz. Best not to cast stones, son. Look at your living arrangement.

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 01/15/2025 06:34 AM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: Cole

Tfap should do himself a favor and just stop talking. lol



He used to spout about Trump's record tax collecting until he finally understood that any increase is a new record. Tclown is the perfect maga. He thinks he won, even though he was lapped by the competition.


You voted for a senile candidate and followed that up by voting for a ditz. Best not to cast stones, son. Look at your living arrangement.


Biden did a good job. The fed did all it could to send up into as recession. Biden's policies stopped it from happening. Solid Markets, great jobs, inflation in check; thanks Joe Biden.

What were Trump's numbers?



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 01/15/2025 07:13 AM
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Biden did a good job.
Crazy that practically every pro-slaver in the country didn't want him to run again and those in power actively forced him to drop out, isn't it? Guess that they didn't think the American people could handle that much success a second time and decided a pathetic loser would be the better candidate.

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 01/15/2025 07:17 AM
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Cole

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Biden aged out. The Joe from a decade ago would have won hands down.

Harris would have been far better than Trump. America will see their mistake within a year or two.

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 01/17/2025 06:18 AM
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It turns out it's only math for anyone who is not a Republican.
>>"It's going to be a Rubik's cube," he said of the complex challenge Johnson faces in marshalling nearly his entire Republican caucus to support a tax package.<<

It's a Rubik's cube!

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 01/17/2025 06:34 AM
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Cole

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"Debt? We love debt!" - The maga Republican.

So much for the Tea Party. lol

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Edited: 01/17/2025 at 06:34 AM by Cole
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