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Topic Title: Who really tried to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer?
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Created On: 07/22/2021 12:55 PM
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 07/22/2021 12:55 PM
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Sniper

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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/a...-whitmer-fbi-informant

Why were there more FBI agents involved in planning and carrying out this kidnapping than there were people arrested?
Why did the FBI go so far as to plan aspects of the kidnapping?
Why did they pay for hotel rooms so the groups could meet?
Why did they provide training and explosives to the anti-government types?

Couldn't they have just arrested the militia members based off of what they caught on wiretaps?

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 07/22/2021 01:31 PM
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3rdworldlover

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Good work, 12 wannabe McVeigh y'all qaedas netted
 07/22/2021 03:08 PM
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follydude

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Why do you hate your country?

Why do you support criminals who want to kidnap a Governor?

Why did you support the assault on the US Capitol on 1/6?


 07/22/2021 03:09 PM
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nukeh2o

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This snipekiller dufus is just like Andy Rooney with lame brain conspiracy quacking
Why DO kangaroos have pouches anyway? And this round earth hoax: is it REALLY round? Says who?
And JFK: a sniper? Or....JEWISH SPACE LASERS!!!!
Tim McVeigh actually was Hilary Clinton.....in disguise!
All will be revealed! Oh yeah and:
duuhhuuhhuuuhh

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 07/22/2021 03:11 PM
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nukeh2o

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This snipekiller dufus is just like Andy Rooney with lame brain conspiracy quacking
Why DO kangaroos have pouches anyway? And this round earth hoax: is it REALLY round? Says who?
And JFK: a sniper? Or....JEWISH SPACE LASERS!!!!
Tim McVeigh actually was Hilary Clinton.....in disguise!
All will be revealed! Oh yeah and:
duuhhuuhhuuuhh

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It's a democratic hoax
 07/22/2021 06:37 PM
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Cole

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Why were there more FBI agents involved in planning and carrying out this kidnapping than there were people arrested?
Why did the FBI go so far as to plan aspects of the kidnapping?
Why did they pay for hotel rooms so the groups could meet?
Why did they provide training and explosives to the anti-government types?


Because that's their job? lol

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 07/23/2021 05:25 AM
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RustyTruck

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Once you open up that can of worms...

I'm telling you, right or left, the guy who suggests the most extreme action/violence is usually a cop.

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 07/23/2021 06:02 AM
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Sniper

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It happened under Trump, so I'm not sure why all you lefties are so quick to defend the FBI. If the FBI had infiltrated BLM or ANTIFA, helped them plan an attack, trained them, given them explosives, and then drove them to where they would be arrested, then I'm sure you would be singing a different tune.

The question is, who is really running shit? If anyone actually read the article, you would see that one of the guys tried to turn over some disturbing information to the FBI and instead of doing their jobs, running with it, and arresting people, the FBI decided to put this guy in harms way and have him do their jobs for them. It seems like they could have gotten the same arrests without having to go as far as they did. It looks like they let it go that far strictly for optics purposes.

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 07/23/2021 06:17 AM
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Cole

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They want no doubts when it comes to conviction. The shit they do has always been questionable, but then again, when things like "enhanced interrogation" are promoted by those at the top, what do you expect?

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 07/23/2021 07:04 AM
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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: Sniper

It happened under Trump, so I'm not sure why all you lefties are so quick to defend the FBI. If the FBI had infiltrated BLM or ANTIFA, helped them plan an attack, trained them, given them explosives, and then drove them to where they would be arrested, then I'm sure you would be singing a different tune.



The question is, who is really running shit? If anyone actually read the article, you would see that one of the guys tried to turn over some disturbing information to the FBI and instead of doing their jobs, running with it, and arresting people, the FBI decided to put this guy in harms way and have him do their jobs for them. It seems like they could have gotten the same arrests without having to go as far as they did. It looks like they let it go that far strictly for optics purposes.



First they aren't lefties. The left has no love for the FBI. And it's a fact that the FBI has and is infiltrating BLM and left organizations, ANITFA is a bit harder for them since it's not organized as such; but the FBI does all the things you mention.

If you want the summary:

Left - F the FBI
Center Right/Liberal - love the FBI
Far Right - love the FBI as long as they are harassing blacks and leftists.

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 07/23/2021 07:11 AM
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Greensleeves

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Qnipe either overlooking or making excuses for the evil of his movement. That's either ignorant and hateful.

Which is it Qnipe?

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 07/23/2021 08:38 AM
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Pagerow

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Originally posted by: Greensleeves

Which is it Qnipe?


They want it both ways.

While screaming "blue lives matter," they then attack the Capitol police, and scream obscenities at them.

All in the name of their orange "chosen one."
 07/23/2021 09:02 AM
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Sniper

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Originally posted by: Pagerow

Originally posted by: Greensleeves

Which is it Qnipe?


They want it both ways.

While screaming "blue lives matter," they then attack the Capitol police, and scream obscenities at them.

All in the name of their orange "chosen one."


Wrong. I support the FBI observing, infiltrating where necessary, and arresting criminals.

I am not okay with the FBI planning crimes and putting together teams of unstable people for the purpose of carrying out crimes that the FBI planned, encouraging unstable people to commit crimes, targeting people who have not committed crimes for the purpose of entrapping them, supplying criminals explosives, weapons, etc. that they wouldn't have had access otherwise for the sole purpose of committing crimes. It appears that the FBI's power may be above the law and completely out of control. I would say the exact same thing if these things were happening to BLM or ANTIFA.

With respect to the Capitol riot, I think the people who participated are idiots. However, I'm kind of holding back and reserving some judgment until I've heard real answers to a few questions that no one seems to want to get anywhere near:
Why was the South side of the Capitol left completely vulnerable?
Why were Capitol Police officers seen opening doors and ushering rioters into the building?
The Capitol police were offered assistance two days before the riot and 5 times the day of the riot. Why was the help declined every single time?
We know the intelligence agencies had people on the ground that day. Some have claimed that intelligence operatives tried to encourage participants to enter windows, breach barriers, etc. I can accept if that is false but I want to see someone who has the authority to explain what was going on explain it, not some talking head on a news network that is only giving their opinion


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 07/23/2021 01:52 PM
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RocketSurf

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Boo-ya, there ya go....don't defund........RE-FUND and RE-EDUCATE law enforcement to focus more on catching criminals then supporting meth-head wanna-be's to the point they become criminal....It is a tried and true practice with the FBI. They find some dip-shit online spouting BS and they reach out and supply said idiot with fake chemical/explosives and, viola, they have just stopped a domestic attack. Great Press! "Look at the good job we are doing".....All sides Left, Right, Center, should be against this shit. It all too common.............Agreed, said dip shits did continue their plan with their new supplies which makes them complicit. But I seriously doubt that most of these idiots would have ever gotten close to achieving their goals/wet-dreams/drunkin keyboard pounding BS. (Queue FK) without the support of the FBI
 07/23/2021 04:56 PM
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Greensleeves

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The idiots at the Capitol riot were invited by Qrump and the qotard movement to include his kids, Rudy, QOP politicians...

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 07/23/2021 06:20 PM
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RocketSurf

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Originally posted by: Greensleeves

The idiots at the Capitol riot were invited by Qrump and the qotard movement to include his kids, Rudy, QOP politicians...


True that.....
 07/23/2021 09:02 PM
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surfsail

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There is a big difference between the MI Militia and BLM / Antifa.. The MI Militia live for this shit - have all the 'gear' to with it.. We have a 'cabin in the woods' type place up in N MI - very rural area and see wierd shit all the time just driving around.. Practically everyone up there has 'guns' - most of it for deer, but automatic weapons? for deer? I don't buy that shit talk for one minute.. These guys were around way longer than qrump... I was concerned about them when we got our place ~12 years ago... Really think that BLM and Antifa are constantly on 'training exercises' and armed to the teeth with automatic weapons? Where are you getting that shit from? just making it up as you go along - as usual... The FBI were onto these morons because they are dumb.. Stupid is as stupid does.. Just like morons on Jan 6 taking selfies and posting them online.. Just good old Darwin at work - again... He's a busy man nowadays... Now to find out who the 'insiders' were.. Taa daaa!!

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Edited: 07/23/2021 at 09:03 PM by surfsail
 07/24/2021 05:29 AM
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Greensleeves

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Qnipe with his conspiracy bullshit and excuses for insurrectionists. Fucking sore loser and poser American. Deal with it like a man instead of a whining confused bitch why don't you? It's better that way.

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