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Created On: 07/04/2025 08:42 AM
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Cole

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What does it fix? Who does it help? Were does it help Joe and Jane Sixpack?

Feel free to add links in your explanations.

As for the tax on tips, you might want to read the details before you claim that as a win.

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The no tax on social security part is awesome, too.

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Originally posted by: Cole

What does it fix? Who does it help? Were does it help Joe and Jane Sixpack?



Feel free to add links in your explanations.



As for the tax on tips, you might want to read the details before you claim that as a win.


Yeah, it doesn't do a god damn thing for service industry tip workers.

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Cole

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Kills green energy.
Gives billions to Big Oil.
Provides large tax breaks for the wealthy.
Takes healthcare and food assistance programs from the poor, infirm and elderly.

This isn't winning.


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The increase in this bill to ICE is $75billion dollars

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 07/06/2025 05:44 AM
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Specifically, the bill sets aside over $100 billion for ICE and border-related activities through September 2029. This funding will support various aspects of immigration enforcement.

100 billion to the guys who hide their faces and won't show their badges.

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Edited: 07/06/2025 at 05:45 AM by Cole
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Originally posted by: Cole
Specifically, the bill sets aside over $100 billion for ICE and border-related activities through September 2029. This funding will support various aspects of immigration enforcement.
100 billion to the guys who hide their faces and won't show their badges.


The point, sadly, is cruelty.

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The point was a loyalty test. Now everyone knows who is more loyal to Trump than their constituents. That loyalty will not protect them from being primaried, ironically the threat used to force their loyalty, once the elections come around again.

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This is typical Trump. All just a cover to help his cronies and his buds.

Every once in a while, he'll throw the conservatives a bone to remind them that he is on their side, like supporting a half-assed law on abortion or gay marriage, or some other social shit that has very little impact on his financial outlook. And of course the MAGA cult falls for it.
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Originally posted by: Cole Kills green energy. Gives billions to Big Oil. Provides large tax breaks for the wealthy. Takes healthcare and food assistance programs from the poor, infirm and elderly. This isn't winning.
Even if the above garbage were true, all of that is fine by me. What's not to like about any of that? The bottom line is that it incorporates many promises that Trump made and the people voted for Trump because of those promises.

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Originally posted by: seaspray This is typical Trump. All just a cover to help his cronies and his buds. Every once in a while, he'll throw the conservatives a bone to remind them that he is on their side, like supporting a half-assed law on abortion or gay marriage, or some other social shit that has very little impact on his financial outlook. And of course the MAGA cult falls for it.
Hurts conservatives, does it? You know how we know that is a prog lie? Because if it did, you progs would be cheering the law. No, it hurts lazy and stupid progs and that is why you are bitching about it. Frankly, progs deserve to be hurt. Normal Americans are all for that.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: Cole

Kills green energy.

Gives billions to Big Oil.

Provides large tax breaks for the wealthy.

Takes healthcare and food assistance programs from the poor, infirm and elderly.



This isn't winning.


Even if the above garbage were true, all of that is fine by me. What's not to like about any of that? The bottom line is that it incorporates many promises that Trump made and the people voted for Trump because of those promises.


As magapablo babbles on once again. Trump was elected to lower prices. That was it.

Yes, the maga faithful want immigrants forcibly removed and don't understand how oil works, but Trump was pushed over the finish line by people wanting cheaper shit.



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Edited: 07/10/2025 at 06:56 AM by Cole
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Originally posted by: tpapablo
Originally posted by: Cole
Provides large tax breaks for the wealthy.
Takes healthcare and food assistance programs from the poor, infirm and elderly.

all of that is fine by me. What's not to like about any of that?


Tell me you're a fake Christian without telling me you're a fake Christian.

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Originally posted by: Pagerow
Originally posted by: tpapablo
Originally posted by: Cole Provides large tax breaks for the wealthy. Takes healthcare and food assistance programs from the poor, infirm and elderly.
all of that is fine by me. What's not to like about any of that?
Tell me you're a fake Christian without telling me you're a fake Christian.
You think I care about how a satan worshipper rates my Christianity?

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Cole

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: Pagerow

Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: Cole

Provides large tax breaks for the wealthy.

Takes healthcare and food assistance programs from the poor, infirm and elderly.


all of that is fine by me. What's not to like about any of that?




Tell me you're a fake Christian without telling me you're a fake Christian.


You think I care about how a satan worshipper rates my Christianity?


How a normal American rates your hypocrisy.



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 07/11/2025 03:00 PM
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I think the main point of the blunder bill was to fund ICE to such a ridiculous degree that it became bigger than all the US Police force.

Wannabe dick-taters need their personal Gestapo after all..

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Edited: 07/12/2025 at 07:28 PM by fishkller
 07/12/2025 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by: fishkller

The obvious main point of the blunder bill to to fund ICE to such a ridiculous degree that it becomes bigger than all the US Police force.



Wannabe dick-taters need their personal Gestapo after all..


Sturmabteilung 2.0.



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