Buffett stated "It's pretty simple, we live in paradise, and paradise is in peril. We need to have a little more attention about the place where we grew up, and where our children should grow up. It's not that hard, it really isn't."

Dude, 1987 was 36 years ago before he had the type of money and influence he had today. Point me towards something current. And for what it's worth, Manatees are overpopulated and contribute to the demise of the Lagoon by eating all the grass.

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And what pray tell you of the Manetees perspective of the the over population of the Human Beings bringing about the demise of not only of the Lagoon , but of the entire planet as well ?

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You got to be joking. It is humans that are overpopulated and have contributed to the demise of the lagoon, not manatees. With a user name like that you should know better.

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no soul, and probly not even floridian. bah

Yes, humans are the cause of the IRL's ills, but manatees were a rare sight in Brevard County "back in the day". Everybody would pull over at the Berkely canal whenever one showed up (which was apparent when they sucked down of a clump of hyacinth which clogged the canal). They are way, way, way overpopulated in the IRL now and whatever smidgen of grass there is has zero chance of surviving. Sea cows (yes, that is what we called them) are like sheep, they rip the grass out by the roots. (Cows crop it, that is why the cowmen hated sheepherders in the old west. Sheep ruined the grasslands.) No matter what we do to cure the ills of the IRL, the grass will never come back as long as we have this many.

And, if the grass doesn't come back, the IRL will remain a dead zone.

Somewhat true ...... it is also true that he did A LOT of good with that $$$$$

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Buffett performed at several hurricane relief concerts including the Surviving the Storm hurricane relief concert in November 2004, which raised funds to support relief efforts for the four major hurricanes that year: Hurricane Charley, Hurricane Frances, Hurricane Ivan, and Hurricane Jeanne[124] and a hurricane relief concert in November 2017 with Kenny Chesney and Toby Keith.[125]

In January 2008, Buffett performed a concert in Hong Kong that raised funds for the Foreign Correspondents' Club Charity Fund to support needy children.[126][127][128]

On July 11, 2010, along with Jesse Winchester and Allen Toussaint, Buffett, a Gulf Coast native, performed a free concert for 35,000 people on the beach in Gulf Shores, Alabama to draw tourism to the area in the aftermath of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill.[129][130] Buffett changed some of the lyrics of his songs to reference the environmental disaster.[131]


After the 2010 Haiti earthquake, Buffett brought tents via his seaplane to donate to those that lost their homes.[132]

In the aftermath of Hurricane Irma, Buffett sent private planes to help ferry supplies and gave a benefit concert in Gustavia, Saint Barthélemy



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"Most people would die sooner than think; in fact, they do." - Bertrand Russell


"Morality is doing what is right, regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, regardless of what is right.


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Remember the old bumper sticker : " I love Manatees ( Esp. with mashed potatoes and gravy ! ) " ?

who was there ....first & is it possible maybe that the people are overpopulated there, now - too

Obviously, there are too damned many people here. There are too damned many transplants, manatees and people both.

Couple quick numbers here. At the inception of the Endangered Species Act (1973), about 1000 manatee existed in FL. With subsequent protection, population expanded to about 6000. Carrying capacity models show a range of 2000 to 10,000 individuals. At 6000, mid range, manatee were unlikely to be "overpopulated". Human driven eutrophication of the IRL caused loss of 80% grass beginning about 2010/11 with the superbloom. Currently, manatee population in IRL is in sharp decline via starvation. In 2021, statewide, about 1000 manatee deaths, twice normal, with starvation in IRL as the primary driver. Sorry guys, it's us.

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Comparison values, pre Endangered Species Act, there were 88 nesting pair of Bald Eagle in FL. Now, via protection, more than 1500 pair.

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Dugongs are still alive in Asian waters but became extinct in Florida about 2 1/2 million years ago, the same time manatees were beginning to show up in the fossil record. - more numbers here for 2nd light mathers

Nice info Tom.

Imagine, actual facts / data and not baseless accusations.

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"Morality is doing what is right, regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, regardless of what is right.


If I do not answer you .... nothing personal, I just have you on ignore.

I used to go to the same concerts. Good times indeed. Like you, I kind of got away from him later on, but still listened to his earlier albums fairly frequently (A1A, White Sport Coat and a Pink Crustacean, Havana Daydreamin', Livin' and Dyin' in 3/4 Time ). I was sadden to hear of his death. Listening to his old songs would take me back to a great time in life. I never met him but know several people who did know him. All have said he was a great guy.

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I'd meant to point out he'd long been charitable, not that he'd done something good once and turned into Scrooge McDuck. Is this recent enough? https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/jimmy-buffett-secretly-donated-wwii-era-planes-to-mobile-s-battleship-memorial-park/ar-AA1gbAYo

He was charitable and funny. I saw him in different places and he always localized the lyrics to gin up the crowd. It worked too. In New Orleans, he would come to town during Jazzfest and play at Tipitina's under the worst kept secret pseudonym "Jimmy and the Fish Sticks." Tipitina's is legendary and I drove by and saw a line down the street for "Jimmy and Fish Sticks" at noon and called my buddy who was a doorman. He told me it Jimmy Buffett and that half the tickets were comped to Buffett two weeks in advance and the other half would only be sold at the door. It is not a big place. My buddy at the door hated any music that didnt smell like patchouli and had two free guests every show as part of the job. I saw every band that came through thanks to him and if I could see Jimmy and the fish sticks for free, why not? Hell no. This was literally the only time at Tipitinas where he was told he would not be getting his two comps. Half of the gulf coast royalty was there.

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Manatee and sea grass got along fine for some ten thousand years.

Then came the people.

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