I've searched and can't find the study I was referring to. They extrapolated the timeline from Biblical stories and the result was around 3,000 BC. Google sucks now, it keeps showing me crap it thinks I want to see and not what I am actually looking for.

Is civilization older? It is for sure, the aborigines have stories of giant animals that died out long before "civilization."

yeah yeah, blame it on google who does that? NO ONE . oh , wait. good ole coal... I'll wait ancient rocks have all the info. wind and wave patterns are there. all you have to do is look.

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pick up my guitar and play, just like yesterday