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Topic Title: It was never the Ukraine
Topic Summary: It was always Russia
Created On: 12/03/2019 09:13 AM
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 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/03/2019 09:13 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Greensleeves - 12/03/2019 10:02 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/03/2019 10:09 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - theglide - 12/03/2019 10:13 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/03/2019 10:56 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/03/2019 12:15 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - somebodyelse - 12/03/2019 04:09 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/03/2019 04:29 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/04/2019 06:35 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - HAPDigital - 12/04/2019 07:08 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - 3rdworldlover - 12/04/2019 07:13 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Cole - 12/04/2019 07:16 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/04/2019 07:22 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - 3rdworldlover - 12/04/2019 07:48 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/04/2019 08:13 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Cole - 12/04/2019 07:53 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/04/2019 08:11 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - HAPDigital - 12/04/2019 08:22 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/04/2019 08:46 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - 3rdworldlover - 12/04/2019 09:13 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - HAPDigital - 12/04/2019 09:44 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Cole - 12/05/2019 03:51 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - wtf - 12/04/2019 09:44 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/04/2019 11:22 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/04/2019 12:30 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/04/2019 12:37 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Fish Killer - 12/04/2019 01:16 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/04/2019 02:41 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - HAPDigital - 12/04/2019 03:31 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/04/2019 01:19 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/04/2019 01:47 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/05/2019 05:24 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/05/2019 05:42 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - RustyTruck - 12/05/2019 06:00 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/05/2019 06:50 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - jdbman - 12/05/2019 08:48 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - somebodyelse - 12/05/2019 09:19 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - RustyTruck - 12/05/2019 09:49 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - somebodyelse - 12/05/2019 10:20 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Greensleeves - 12/05/2019 10:17 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - somebodyelse - 12/05/2019 10:26 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Greensleeves - 12/05/2019 10:34 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - somebodyelse - 12/05/2019 10:36 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - RustyTruck - 12/05/2019 10:43 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Greensleeves - 12/05/2019 10:45 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - somebodyelse - 12/05/2019 10:59 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - fishkller - 12/05/2019 11:43 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/05/2019 12:51 PM  
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 12/04/2019 07:16 AM
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Cole

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Russia was responsible for the hack are the same people who were proven wrong by the Mueller investigation.

Um, Mueller's report said that Russia hacked the election and that they are still a serious threat.

Seriously, where do you get your news?

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 12/04/2019 07:22 AM
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Sniper

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Usually, I link sources. They are the blue letters. Try clicking them.

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 12/04/2019 07:48 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Maybe check Page 36 of Mueller's Report?

RUSSIAN HACKING AND DUMPING OPERATIONS .................................................. ...... ............. 36
A. GRU Hacking Directed at the Clinton Campaign ................. .......... ............... ............. 36
1. GRU Units Target the Clinton Campaign .................. . .... . .... . ......... . ...................... 36
2. Intrusions into the DCCC and DNC Networks ................... ................... ............... 38
a. Initial Access .................................... ............................................... ................. 38
b. Implantation ofMalware on DCCC and DNC Networks ................................ 38
c. Theft of Documents from DNC and DCCC Networks .................................... 40
B. Dissemination of the Hacked Materials ................. ......... ......................... ................... 41
I. DCL eaks ........ ............................. ................................. .................. .................. ..... 41
2. Guccifer 2.0 ............ .............. .................. ............. .................................................. 42
3. Use of WikiLeaks .................
 12/04/2019 08:13 AM
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Sniper

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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover

Maybe check Page 36 of Mueller's Report?

RUSSIAN HACKING AND DUMPING OPERATIONS .................................................. ...... ............. 36

A. GRU Hacking Directed at the Clinton Campaign ................. .......... ............... ............. 36

1. GRU Units Target the Clinton Campaign .................. . .... . .... . ......... . ...................... 36

2. Intrusions into the DCCC and DNC Networks ................... ................... ............... 38

a. Initial Access .................................... ............................................... ................. 38

b. Implantation ofMalware on DCCC and DNC Networks ................................ 38

c. Theft of Documents from DNC and DCCC Networks .................................... 40

B. Dissemination of the Hacked Materials ................. ......... ......................... ................... 41

I. DCL eaks ........ ............................. ................................. .................. .................. ..... 41

2. Guccifer 2.0 ............ .............. .................. ............. .................................................. 42

3. Use of WikiLeaks .................


And, the Mueller Report based this on what? A server they never had full access to? Taking the DNC's word for it? Taking the word of a company being paid by the DNC?

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
 12/04/2019 07:53 AM
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Cole

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1) The link you posted never mentions Ukraine as the culprit, as you have argued.

2) There is a detailed report on the investigation.

http://www.us-cert.gov/sites/d...0STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

Then there is this from the link you posted.

We have also learned since publication, from longtime VIPS member Thomas Drake, that there is a dispute among VIPS members themselves about the July 24 memo. This is not the first time a VIPS report has been internally disputed, but it is the first time one has been released over the substantive objections of several VIPS members. With that in mind, we asked Drake and those VIPS members who agree with him to present their dissenting view. We also asked VIPS members who stand by their report to respond.

Which brings me to the question: Do you read the links you post?

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Edited: 12/04/2019 at 07:54 AM by Cole
 12/04/2019 08:11 AM
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Sniper

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Originally posted by: Cole

1) The link you posted never mentions Ukraine as the culprit, as you have argued.

2) There is a detailed report on the investigation.

http://www.us-cert.gov/sites/d...E-2016-1229.pdf


Then there is this from the link you posted.

We have also learned since publication, from longtime VIPS member Thomas Drake, that there is a dispute among VIPS members themselves about the July 24 memo. This is not the first time a VIPS report has been internally disputed, but it is the first time one has been released over the substantive objections of several VIPS members. With that in mind, we asked Drake and those VIPS members who agree with him to present their dissenting view. We also asked VIPS members who stand by their report to respond.

Which brings me to the question: Do you read the links you post?


Yeah, I never mentioned Ukraine being the culprit. It wouldn't have to be hacked at all if someone had access to the system.

I saw the quote you mentioned. I'm still interested in hearing what both sides have to say.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
 12/04/2019 08:22 AM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: Sniper

Originally posted by: Cole



1) The link you posted never mentions Ukraine as the culprit, as you have argued.



2) There is a detailed report on the investigation.



">http://www.us-cert.gov/sites/d....pdf





Then there is this from the link you posted.



We have also learned since publication, from longtime VIPS member Thomas Drake, that there is a dispute among VIPS members themselves about the July 24 memo. This is not the first time a VIPS report has been internally disputed, but it is the first time one has been released over the substantive objections of several VIPS members. With that in mind, we asked Drake and those VIPS members who agree with him to present their dissenting view. We also asked VIPS members who stand by their report to respond.



Which brings me to the question: Do you read the links you post?




Yeah, I never mentioned Ukraine being the culprit. It wouldn't have to be hacked at all if someone had access to the system.



I saw the quote you mentioned. I'm still interested in hearing what both sides have to say.


I know right? It could be Somalia. I'm thinking maybe it was Barbados but you know it could have been Canada or even Sweden. Our FBI and Intelligence services say it was Russian. But you know, it could be Austria. We'll never know....
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