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Topic Title: Here we go again
Topic Summary: Activer shooter TX school
Created On: 05/18/2018 06:41 AM
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 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/18/2018 06:41 AM  
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 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/18/2018 08:55 AM  
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 Here we go again   - worksuxgetsponsered - 05/18/2018 09:03 AM  
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 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/18/2018 11:33 AM  
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 Here we go again   - fishkller - 05/18/2018 11:45 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/18/2018 11:48 AM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/18/2018 12:03 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/18/2018 12:17 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/18/2018 12:36 PM  
 Here we go again   - 3rdworldlover - 05/18/2018 12:45 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/18/2018 12:44 PM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/18/2018 12:45 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/18/2018 12:50 PM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/18/2018 01:24 PM  
 Here we go again   - fishkller - 05/19/2018 12:13 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/18/2018 12:47 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/18/2018 01:35 PM  
 Here we go again   - nukeh2o - 05/18/2018 03:17 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/18/2018 05:52 PM  
 Here we go again   - scombrid - 05/18/2018 06:29 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/19/2018 08:41 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/19/2018 10:36 AM  
 Here we go again   - RiddleMe - 05/19/2018 11:25 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/19/2018 11:32 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/19/2018 12:11 PM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/20/2018 04:44 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/20/2018 05:09 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/20/2018 04:11 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 04:18 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 04:21 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 04:23 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 04:27 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 04:43 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/20/2018 04:58 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 05:09 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 05:17 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 05:20 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 05:28 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 05:35 PM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/20/2018 08:12 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 05:15 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 05:17 AM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/20/2018 05:30 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 05:05 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/20/2018 06:08 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 06:45 PM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/21/2018 05:09 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/18/2018 06:42 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/18/2018 07:20 PM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/18/2018 07:38 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/19/2018 07:56 AM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/20/2018 10:12 AM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/20/2018 10:12 AM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 10:46 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 01:09 PM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/18/2018 07:36 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/19/2018 07:51 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/19/2018 07:54 AM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/19/2018 02:11 PM  
 Here we go again   - RiddleMe - 05/19/2018 02:18 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/19/2018 02:50 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/19/2018 03:38 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/20/2018 01:55 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/20/2018 02:02 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/20/2018 02:06 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 02:17 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 02:21 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 02:25 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 02:30 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 03:54 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 04:07 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 02:05 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 02:20 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/19/2018 03:35 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/19/2018 08:13 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/19/2018 10:31 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/19/2018 10:31 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/20/2018 05:54 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 06:40 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/20/2018 08:53 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/20/2018 04:23 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/20/2018 04:35 AM  
 Here we go again   - dingpatch - 05/20/2018 04:49 AM  
 Here we go again   - LBLarry - 05/20/2018 09:32 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/20/2018 07:14 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 08:35 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/20/2018 07:21 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/20/2018 08:56 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/20/2018 01:03 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/20/2018 01:10 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 01:13 PM  
 Here we go again   - Northjetty101 - 05/20/2018 04:16 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/20/2018 07:06 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 04:55 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 05:15 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 05:17 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 05:25 AM  
 Here we go again   - 3rdworldlover - 05/21/2018 07:43 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 07:50 AM  
 Here we go again   - jdbman - 05/21/2018 08:12 AM  
 Here we go again   - worksuxgetsponsered - 05/21/2018 09:17 AM  
 Here we go again   - 426Blue - 05/21/2018 09:44 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 10:16 AM  
 Here we go again   - LBLarry - 05/21/2018 10:49 AM  
 Here we go again   - 426Blue - 05/21/2018 12:54 PM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/21/2018 01:24 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 01:34 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 03:41 PM  
 Here we go again   - dingpatch - 05/21/2018 03:46 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/21/2018 03:56 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/22/2018 03:01 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 04:29 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 09:42 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/21/2018 09:47 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 10:12 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/21/2018 10:23 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 10:31 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/21/2018 10:32 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 10:43 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 04:47 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/22/2018 05:02 AM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/22/2018 05:03 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 06:23 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/22/2018 06:30 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 07:34 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 06:32 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 05:09 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/22/2018 05:46 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 06:20 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/22/2018 07:08 AM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/22/2018 06:35 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 06:42 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 07:22 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 07:38 AM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/22/2018 07:50 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 08:15 AM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/22/2018 08:52 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 09:59 AM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/22/2018 11:30 AM  
 Here we go again   - damonsharp - 05/22/2018 11:50 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 11:54 AM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/22/2018 12:11 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/23/2018 08:11 AM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/22/2018 12:33 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 09:00 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/22/2018 12:40 PM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/23/2018 08:14 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/23/2018 08:18 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/23/2018 08:51 AM  
 Here we go again   - worksuxgetsponsered - 05/23/2018 09:34 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/23/2018 09:42 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/23/2018 10:05 AM  
 Here we go again   - worksuxgetsponsered - 05/23/2018 10:20 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/26/2018 07:22 AM  
 Here we go again   - 3rdworldlover - 05/23/2018 10:41 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/23/2018 10:45 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/26/2018 07:23 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/26/2018 10:21 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/27/2018 04:56 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/27/2018 05:47 AM  
 Here we go again   - fishkller - 05/27/2018 07:20 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/27/2018 05:52 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/28/2018 06:46 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/28/2018 10:20 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/28/2018 11:22 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/28/2018 12:13 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/28/2018 07:14 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/29/2018 04:48 AM  
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 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/29/2018 05:09 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/29/2018 06:28 AM  
 Here we go again   - fishkller - 05/28/2018 07:01 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/28/2018 11:21 AM  
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 Here we go again   - fishkller - 05/28/2018 03:27 PM  
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The self proclaimed "smart people" have yet to show where funding would come from for all their great ideas. Just a note, I'm willing to pay any amount of tax if it will help kids, the education system and health system so let's not go there again. Not once have you explained why schools can't get pencils yet you think they can get bullet proof glass, door lock down systems, cameras, armed guards, metal detectors and on and on. FYI there are waaaaay more schools in the USA than airports and courthouses and the TSA's budget is an incredible number annually. You "smart" guys can do the numbers on how much money it would take to achieve what you are proposing. It's not so practical as you think, unless you're willing to fork out some big tax money. However, current admin has proven they want less taxes, especially for those that have. Your stance is hypocritical and unfeasible. You also bring up private schools yet you don't weigh in obvious factors like poverty levels, family support structure, etc etc. There is way more to it than it just being a private school. But you guys are smart, right?
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Trump and co say mental illness is the issue, then they cut funding to mental healthcare.

Either they don't care that our kids are getting gunned down or they don't believe that mental health is the real issue.

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 05/22/2018 06:20 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole
Trump and co say mental illness is the issue, then they cut funding to mental healthcare.

Either they don't care that our kids are getting gunned down or they don't believe that mental health is the real issue.


Please.... mental illness absolutely is part of the issue and we need better mental health care in this country, especially for our youth. Our culture also contributes to the mental health of our youth because kids are no longer prepared to deal with hardships properly. They are far far more susceptible to going of the deep end because of this than the youth 30+ years ago were. Generation X/Y have created an absolute mess with how we parented our children for the most part. Protecting them instead of teaching them to deal with it.....

Yeah gun culture is a problem, but so is our culture in general. Combined with piss poor mental health care in this country and the fact that we medicate for it first instead of as a last resort, umm yeah.. houston we have a huge problem. Blaming it on something singular is stupid and naive imo.

Edit: and yes, the Republican hypocrisy on mental health care is deplorable.
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Originally posted by: Cole

Trump and co say mental illness is the issue, then they cut funding to mental healthcare.
Either they don't care that our kids are getting gunned down or they don't believe that mental health is the real issue.


Liar!

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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

The self proclaimed "smart people" have yet to show where funding would come from for all their great ideas. Just a note, I'm willing to pay any amount of tax if it will help kids, the education system and health system so let's not go there again. Not once have you explained why schools can't get pencils yet you think they can get bullet proof glass, door lock down systems, cameras, armed guards, metal detectors and on and on. FYI there are waaaaay more schools in the USA than airports and courthouses and the TSA's budget is an incredible number annually. You "smart" guys can do the numbers on how much money it would take to achieve what you are proposing. It's not so practical as you think, unless you're willing to fork out some big tax money. However, current admin has proven they want less taxes, especially for those that have. Your stance is hypocritical and unfeasible. You also bring up private schools yet you don't weigh in obvious factors like poverty levels, family support structure, etc etc. There is way more to it than it just being a private school. But you guys are smart, right?


maybe my view on schools is limited, but in my years at cocoa beach high- there was not a pencil shortage. My sister and several friends teach at schools in very low income areas of duval county, and they have pencils.....is that just hyperbole or??

some of my aforementioned teacher friends would have paid out of pocket to have the cameras installed but are trying to get around privacy issues with the public school board- funding may be an issue but should not be a show stopper, until/unless it becomes one.

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It's not hyperbole. Budgets for schools are slim, known fact. Billion upon billions of dollars for security measures is not going to happen, we know this. Cameras will just record the tragic events, not deter. These kids want to be seen.
 05/22/2018 07:22 AM
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Originally posted by: stokedpanda

Originally posted by: HAPDigital



The self proclaimed "smart people" have yet to show where funding would come from for all their great ideas. Just a note, I'm willing to pay any amount of tax if it will help kids, the education system and health system so let's not go there again. Not once have you explained why schools can't get pencils yet you think they can get bullet proof glass, door lock down systems, cameras, armed guards, metal detectors and on and on. FYI there are waaaaay more schools in the USA than airports and courthouses and the TSA's budget is an incredible number annually. You "smart" guys can do the numbers on how much money it would take to achieve what you are proposing. It's not so practical as you think, unless you're willing to fork out some big tax money. However, current admin has proven they want less taxes, especially for those that have. Your stance is hypocritical and unfeasible. You also bring up private schools yet you don't weigh in obvious factors like poverty levels, family support structure, etc etc. There is way more to it than it just being a private school. But you guys are smart, right?




maybe my view on schools is limited, but in my years at cocoa beach high- there was not a pencil shortage. My sister and several friends teach at schools in very low income areas of duval county, and they have pencils.....is that just hyperbole or??



some of my aforementioned teacher friends would have paid out of pocket to have the cameras installed but are trying to get around privacy issues with the public school board- funding may be an issue but should not be a show stopper, until/unless it becomes one.


Just had to quote him didn't you, lol ...I am trying not to see his whining drivel. Maybe he has me blocked too.... only reason to explain why he posted that when I very clearly identified how we could go about possibly paying for it. His solution seems to be just to bitch about it while throwing his hands up in the air saying it is all impossible while attacking anyone that has a different opinion than his.
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