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Topic Title: Here we go again
Topic Summary: Activer shooter TX school
Created On: 05/18/2018 06:41 AM
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 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/18/2018 06:41 AM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/18/2018 07:41 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/18/2018 08:05 AM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/18/2018 08:55 AM  
 Here we go again   - Greensleeves - 05/18/2018 08:57 AM  
 Here we go again   - worksuxgetsponsered - 05/18/2018 09:03 AM  
 Here we go again   - 3rdworldlover - 05/18/2018 09:38 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/18/2018 11:33 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/18/2018 12:27 PM  
 Here we go again   - fishkller - 05/18/2018 11:45 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/18/2018 11:48 AM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/18/2018 12:03 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/18/2018 12:17 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/18/2018 12:36 PM  
 Here we go again   - 3rdworldlover - 05/18/2018 12:45 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/18/2018 12:44 PM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/18/2018 12:45 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/18/2018 12:50 PM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/18/2018 01:24 PM  
 Here we go again   - fishkller - 05/19/2018 12:13 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/18/2018 12:47 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/18/2018 01:35 PM  
 Here we go again   - nukeh2o - 05/18/2018 03:17 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/18/2018 05:52 PM  
 Here we go again   - scombrid - 05/18/2018 06:29 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/19/2018 08:41 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/19/2018 10:36 AM  
 Here we go again   - RiddleMe - 05/19/2018 11:25 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/19/2018 11:32 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/19/2018 12:11 PM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/20/2018 04:44 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/20/2018 05:09 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/20/2018 04:11 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 04:18 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 04:21 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 04:23 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 04:27 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 04:43 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/20/2018 04:58 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 05:09 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 05:17 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 05:20 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 05:28 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 05:35 PM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/20/2018 08:12 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 05:15 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 05:17 AM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/20/2018 05:30 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 05:05 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/20/2018 06:08 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 06:45 PM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/21/2018 05:09 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/18/2018 06:42 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/18/2018 07:20 PM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/18/2018 07:38 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/19/2018 07:56 AM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/20/2018 10:12 AM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/20/2018 10:12 AM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 10:46 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 01:09 PM  
 Here we go again   - WG - 05/18/2018 07:36 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/19/2018 07:51 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/19/2018 07:54 AM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/19/2018 02:11 PM  
 Here we go again   - RiddleMe - 05/19/2018 02:18 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/19/2018 02:50 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/19/2018 03:38 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/20/2018 01:55 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/20/2018 02:02 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/20/2018 02:06 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 02:17 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 02:21 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 02:25 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 02:30 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 03:54 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 04:07 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/20/2018 02:05 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 02:20 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/19/2018 03:35 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/19/2018 08:13 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/19/2018 10:31 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/19/2018 10:31 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/20/2018 05:54 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 06:40 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/20/2018 08:53 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/20/2018 04:23 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/20/2018 04:35 AM  
 Here we go again   - dingpatch - 05/20/2018 04:49 AM  
 Here we go again   - LBLarry - 05/20/2018 09:32 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/20/2018 07:14 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 08:35 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/20/2018 07:21 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/20/2018 08:56 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/20/2018 01:03 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/20/2018 01:10 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/20/2018 01:13 PM  
 Here we go again   - Northjetty101 - 05/20/2018 04:16 PM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/20/2018 07:06 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 04:55 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 05:15 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 05:17 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 05:25 AM  
 Here we go again   - 3rdworldlover - 05/21/2018 07:43 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 07:50 AM  
 Here we go again   - jdbman - 05/21/2018 08:12 AM  
 Here we go again   - worksuxgetsponsered - 05/21/2018 09:17 AM  
 Here we go again   - 426Blue - 05/21/2018 09:44 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 10:16 AM  
 Here we go again   - LBLarry - 05/21/2018 10:49 AM  
 Here we go again   - 426Blue - 05/21/2018 12:54 PM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/21/2018 01:24 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 01:34 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 03:41 PM  
 Here we go again   - dingpatch - 05/21/2018 03:46 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/21/2018 03:56 PM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/22/2018 03:01 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 04:29 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 09:42 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/21/2018 09:47 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 10:12 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/21/2018 10:23 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/21/2018 10:31 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/21/2018 10:32 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/21/2018 10:43 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 04:47 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/22/2018 05:02 AM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/22/2018 05:03 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 06:23 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/22/2018 06:30 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 07:34 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 06:32 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 05:09 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/22/2018 05:46 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 06:20 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/22/2018 07:08 AM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/22/2018 06:35 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 06:42 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 07:22 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 07:38 AM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/22/2018 07:50 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 08:15 AM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/22/2018 08:52 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/22/2018 09:59 AM  
 Here we go again   - RustyTruck - 05/22/2018 11:30 AM  
 Here we go again   - damonsharp - 05/22/2018 11:50 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 11:54 AM  
 Here we go again   - Sparky - 05/22/2018 12:11 PM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/23/2018 08:11 AM  
 Here we go again   - stokedpanda - 05/22/2018 12:33 PM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/22/2018 09:00 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/22/2018 12:40 PM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/23/2018 08:14 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/23/2018 08:18 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/23/2018 08:51 AM  
 Here we go again   - worksuxgetsponsered - 05/23/2018 09:34 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/23/2018 09:42 AM  
 Here we go again   - miker - 05/23/2018 10:05 AM  
 Here we go again   - worksuxgetsponsered - 05/23/2018 10:20 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/26/2018 07:22 AM  
 Here we go again   - 3rdworldlover - 05/23/2018 10:41 AM  
 Here we go again   - HAPDigital - 05/23/2018 10:45 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/26/2018 07:23 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/26/2018 10:21 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/27/2018 04:56 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/27/2018 05:47 AM  
 Here we go again   - fishkller - 05/27/2018 07:20 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/27/2018 05:52 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/28/2018 06:46 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/28/2018 10:20 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/28/2018 11:22 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/28/2018 12:13 PM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/28/2018 07:14 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/29/2018 04:48 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/29/2018 04:50 AM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/29/2018 05:09 AM  
 Here we go again   - Fish Killer - 05/29/2018 06:28 AM  
 Here we go again   - fishkller - 05/28/2018 07:01 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/28/2018 11:21 AM  
 Here we go again   - wtf - 05/28/2018 01:24 PM  
 Here we go again   - fishkller - 05/28/2018 03:27 PM  
 Here we go again   - Cole - 05/28/2018 05:01 PM  
 Here we go again   - follydude - 05/28/2018 05:44 PM  
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 05/21/2018 12:54 PM
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426Blue

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Miker - you missed my point. 

I don't doubt your statistics, or even that the rate of gun ownership may have declined over time.  My point is that a well organized group, having political motives, have engaged in a marketing agenda appealing to large swaths of the population, promoting a "gun culture" in this country that did not exist in the past.  Until recently, I never recall: people openly disclosing all the guns they own; bragging about their concealed weapons permits; rushing to gun dealers the second someone in power mentions a reasonable regulation; seeing firing ranges in every community; sporting clothes or bumper stickers promoting guns, or warning what they'll do to someone that crosses them; seeing constant new roadside billboards for gun shows; suddenly finding a new love and appreciation for the constitution & second amendment; bragging about how "american" they are, since they support their supposed constituional right to bear arms.

The more prevalent the gun culture, and acceptance of firearms as the "norm", the higher chance that school shootings will continue and even increase.               

 

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Originally posted by: 426Blue

Miker - you missed my point. 




I don't doubt your statistics, or even that the rate of gun ownership may have declined over time.  My point is that a well organized group, having political motives, have engaged in a marketing agenda appealing to large swaths of the population, promoting a "gun culture" in this country that did not exist in the past.  Until recently, I never recall: people openly disclosing all the guns they own; bragging about their concealed weapons permits; rushing to gun dealers the second someone in power mentions a reasonable regulation; seeing firing ranges in every community; sporting clothes or bumper stickers promoting guns, or warning what they'll do to someone that crosses them; seeing constant new roadside billboards for gun shows; suddenly finding a new love and appreciation for the constitution & second amendment; bragging about how "american" they are, since they support their supposed constituional right to bear arms.




The more prevalent the gun culture, and acceptance of firearms as the "norm", the higher chance that school shootings will continue and even increase.               




 



I have noticed that too, with and increased vulcanization against those who choose not to participate.


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 05/21/2018 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by: 426Blue Miker - you missed my point. 

I don't doubt your statistics, or even that the rate of gun ownership may have declined over time.  My point is that a well organized group, having political motives, have engaged in a marketing agenda appealing to large swaths of the population, promoting a "gun culture" in this country that did not exist in the past.  Until recently, I never recall: people openly disclosing all the guns they own; bragging about their concealed weapons permits; rushing to gun dealers the second someone in power mentions a reasonable regulation; seeing firing ranges in every community; sporting clothes or bumper stickers promoting guns, or warning what they'll do to someone that crosses them; seeing constant new roadside billboards for gun shows; suddenly finding a new love and appreciation for the constitution & second amendment; bragging about how "american" they are, since they support their supposed constituional right to bear arms.

The more prevalent the gun culture, and acceptance of firearms as the "norm", the higher chance that school shootings will continue and even increase.               

 

Well said.
 05/21/2018 03:41 PM
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miker

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Originally posted by: 426Blue

Miker - you missed my point. 


I don't doubt your statistics, or even that the rate of gun ownership may have declined over time.  My point is that a well organized group, having political motives, have engaged in a marketing agenda appealing to large swaths of the population, promoting a "gun culture" in this country that did not exist in the past.  Until recently, I never recall: people openly disclosing all the guns they own; bragging about their concealed weapons permits; rushing to gun dealers the second someone in power mentions a reasonable regulation; seeing firing ranges in every community; sporting clothes or bumper stickers promoting guns, or warning what they'll do to someone that crosses them; seeing constant new roadside billboards for gun shows; suddenly finding a new love and appreciation for the constitution & second amendment; bragging about how "american" they are, since they support their supposed constituional right to bear arms.


The more prevalent the gun culture, and acceptance of firearms as the "norm", the higher chance that school shootings will continue and even increase.               


 


No I got your point and agree with it mostly. My post supported your point. Funny I remember some of the rednecks with gun racks complete with shotgun and perhaps hunting rifle in their trucks in the school parking lot and nobody batted an eye. Nobody was worried they would shoot the place up.

I dont think the issue is strictly gun culture though. Not going to repost what I posted, you can read that for yourself if you haven't already and so choose to.
 05/21/2018 03:46 PM
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The Bottom Line is that, , , , Soft Targets will always be Soft Targets.

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 05/21/2018 03:56 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: dingpatch

The Bottom Line is that, , , , Soft Targets will always be Soft Targets.


Lie!

They most assuredly don't have to be!

Remove the gun free zone law that Joe Biden invented!

Problem solved!

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  Something that I don't think has been mentioned. How many school shootings have taken place in a private school? Maybe like most things that government can't handle or does not want to handle a private company can handle? Just a thought.

 What would it take to modify the school day? Tighten up entry points. I don't see this costing some that much money. Little things like working towards removing the need for backpacks. C'mon already do we still need kids carrying all that crap around? Their is definetly some inexpensive, low tech ways to help.

 I have worked in our local school system and agree teacher pay sucks. The top is not doing too bad though. I have seen technology and secruity systems already installed in our local schools that teachers and administrators have refused to accept and learn how they function. It's always we are way too busy and underpaid to be fooling with that stuff.

My position is I don't care anymore about gun laws. I just know plenty of things can happen before you try and get all the scary looking guns banned.

 

 05/22/2018 04:29 AM
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HAPDigital

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"I don't care." Pretty much sums it up. You want what you want with absolutely no responsibility and accountability yet you want others to add that burden to their already complex lives. So freaking selfish. Your not even willing to try some simple and practical regulations that would not really hinder any gun owner or manufacturer rights, just make them more responsible. Then say it won't work without even trying it. You'd rather turn Ms. Jones into Charlie Bronson. Pretty messed up if you ask me.
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