Biden Got Nearly $1 Million from Ukraine While in Office, According to Lawmaker
By C. Douglas Golden
Published October 10, 2019

How much do you trust a Ukrainian lawmaker with unverified documents who unveiled them to the world at a news conference hosted by a Russian-owned news agency?

If you're Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, you trust them quite a bit. If you're a partisan of former 2020 Democratic front-runner Joe Biden, you likely trust them not at all.

If one side is completely right here, it could have a major effect on the 2020 presidential race.

On Wednesday, Andriy Derkach, a member of Ukraine's Parliament, held a news conference hosted by wire service Interfax-Ukraine. In it, he accused former Vice President Joe Biden of accepting almost $1 million for consulting services from Ukraine energy giant Burisma while he was in office.

(Burisma, for those making their domiciles under rocks, is the company that paid Biden's son Hunter $50,000 a month to serve on its board.)

Wednesday night, appearing on Sean Hannity's Fox News show, Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani brought up Derkach's claims to buttress his case that the Bidens had been up to some dirty dealing in the former Soviet republic.

"Biden, his son and his brother had a 30-year-long scam to make money, millions, selling his public office," Giuliani said.

"Do you think we're going to hear [from] the press that a member of the parliament in Ukraine held a press conference today and - name was Andriy Derkach, you won't hear this on the news, ladies and gentlemen, because they censor it, you only get the news the Dems want you to hear - Derkach publicized documents which he said described the mechanisms for getting money by Biden Sr."

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Giuliani then quoted Derkach during the news conference:
"This was the transfer of funds for lobbying activities, as investigators believe, to Joe Biden through a lobbying company," he said.

"Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to the U.S.-based company Rosemont Seneca, which according to open sources is affiliated with Biden. The payment reference was for consultative services."

Giuliani went on to describe some of Derkach's further comments - which, taken in full, seemed pretty damning.

According to Interfax-Ukraine, Derkach said: "According to the documents, Burisma paid no less than $16.5 million to [former Polish President, who became an independent director at Burisma Holdings in 2014] Aleksander Kwasniewski, [chairman of the Burisma board of independent directors] Alan Apter, [Burisma independent director] Devon Archer and Hunter Biden [who joined the Burisma board of directors in 2014].

"Using political and economic levelers of influencing Ukrainian authorities and manipulating the issue of providing financial aid to Ukraine, Joe Biden actively assisted closing criminal cases into the activity of former Ukrainian Ecology Minister Mykola Zlochevsky, who is the founder and owner of Burisma Group."
On "Hannity," Giuliani expanded on that.

"Let me tell you who Mykola Zlochevsky is," Giuliani said. "He's a major oligarch. He stole $5 billion from his people. He very suspiciously was allowed to come back [to Ukraine]. His case got dismissed when they dismissed Hunter Biden's case [involving Burisma] ... This guy's one of the major criminals in the Ukraine and he's now walking around free because Joe Biden got the case dismissed."
Biden said the Justice Department should take the Ukraine accusations seriously.

"This case stinks. They can run away from it all they want," Giuliani added.

Obviously, accepting this kind of gift from a state-run company during his time as vice president would be incredibly illegal and a major new twist in the Biden case - something that Giuliani no doubt knew when he brought it up on Hannity's show.

It's also a difficult sell when you consider the source. It's not just the fact that the story is a hard one to believe. Even with new leadership, Ukraine isn't necessarily known as being corruption-free - or the kind of place where a blockbuster story about corruption can be believed on its own merits.

The fact that this happened at a news conference hosted by a Russian-run wire service seems more than a bit sketchy, particularly when you consider the fact that the motive behind the news conference seemed to be exculpating Ukraine's current president, Volodymyr Zelensky, and pinning electoral interference in American politics on Ukraine's former leadership.

"We see the conflict in which the new government of Ukraine faces due to the activities of the previous president," Derkach said at the news conference, according to Interfax-Ukraine.

"I want to emphasize that I'm almost sure, and not only I, but many journalists, that [former Ukrainian President Petro] Poroshenko personally bears responsibility for the situation in which Ukraine has ended up, for dragging Ukraine into interfering in the U.S. presidential election, for a huge number of corruption scandals and international corruption that could not have occurred without his control or participation."

These are not the kinds of things you want to hear in a Joe Friday "just-the-facts-ma'am" news conference, particularly in a country that has a history of corruption. For its part, the Biden campaign refused to comment when contacted by the U.K. Daily Mail about Giuliani's remarks.

So, will this end up being a major new wrinkle in the Bidens' Ukrainian troubles?

Or, will this end up being a major embarrassment for Rudy Giuliani?
One thing's for sure - this one isn't likely to be forgotten anytime soon. It's also going to shine an unwanted spotlight yet again on what the Bidens were doing in Ukraine back during the Obama era.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

BOMBSHELL!!!!!


















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Edited: 10/10/2019 at 02:13 PM by fishkller

Giuliani's associates who were just arrested contributed to the Republican National Committee, Ron DeSantis, Rick Scott, Joe Wilson, Pete Sessions, Kevin McCarthy, and many, many more.

The entire Republican party is an organized crime syndicate.

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

So your ignorant ASS thinks that because someone is arrested that they are actually guilty of something!

ASSHOLE!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

fish Klansman

Not me, Im a liberal.

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

FK 1 holding on to hope for dear life in the face of defeat.

Just like ol' Adolf in the Berlin bunker.

Until that fateful day when he feeds his girlfriend (Tfish aka FK2) a cyanide pill and the two lovebirds collapse on the sofa when he does himself in the head after finally accepting his complete failure



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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

Liar!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Hey Lyin fish, if you're such a believer in the presumption of innocence for Rudy's money men, how come you have gone all in with the Bidens without even an arrest? You say they are guilty of bribes without evidence, substantiation or specifics. But this little clown crew is, in your mind, entitled to that same presumption you deny the Bidens. Why is that. (And if you post a video of joe Biden bragging about getting a corrupt prosecutor fired, you have conceded defeat. That's based upon an inference that Biden was taking money. The next inference is that taking the money was illegal. The next inference is that the corrupt prosecutor had to be fired because he would have discovered this and even though there was no allegations or investigations of the Bidens at the time, Rudy and cash clowns got to the bottom of it and we're going to explode some bombshells, in other words impermissible inference stacking and connecting dots too far across for anyone except the the pizzagate loyalists.)

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

An excellent response, but I fear that it is wasted effort. You are attempting to use rational thought with the irrational....kinda like discussing climate science with a chicken.



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I was right.

Better do a search for that as there is a CRAPTON of evidence of Joe and Hunters scam!

With China as well!

What they did is the definition of QuidProQuo.

FACT!


quid pro quo
[?kwid ?pr? ?kw?]

NOUN
a favor or advantage granted or expected in return for something.
"the pardon was a quid pro quo for their help in releasing hostages"
synonyms:
exchange · trade · trade-off · swap · switch · barter · substitute · substitution · reciprocity · reciprocation · return · payment · remuneration · amends · compensation ·



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/11/2019 at 06:34 AM by Fish Killer

I thought the FBI and CIA are all part of the Deep State? If this is the case, why in the world are they going after Biden?

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I was right.

They have no choice...

MORON!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.