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 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/17/2018 08:10 AM  
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 BLM protesting Starbucks   - SlimyBritches - 04/17/2018 09:25 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/17/2018 09:55 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - HAPDigital - 04/17/2018 11:11 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - worksuxgetsponsered - 04/17/2018 11:24 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Pagerow - 04/17/2018 11:35 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/17/2018 11:59 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - tom - 04/17/2018 11:38 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Greensleeves - 04/17/2018 11:21 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/17/2018 11:56 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/17/2018 06:10 PM  
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 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Cole - 04/17/2018 07:53 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - damonsharp - 04/18/2018 09:40 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/18/2018 12:21 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/19/2018 05:12 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/20/2018 10:58 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 08/08/2018 10:38 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/20/2018 11:04 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - RustyTruck - 04/17/2018 12:17 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/17/2018 12:30 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/17/2018 06:14 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - RustyTruck - 04/17/2018 01:05 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Cole - 04/17/2018 05:05 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/17/2018 06:36 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - StirfryMcflurry - 04/18/2018 05:49 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/17/2018 06:38 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/18/2018 12:24 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Cole - 04/18/2018 05:41 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/18/2018 06:13 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Pagerow - 04/18/2018 06:56 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/18/2018 09:05 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - johnny - 04/18/2018 09:17 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - johnny - 04/18/2018 09:23 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/18/2018 12:23 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/20/2018 11:02 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/18/2018 06:16 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Cole - 04/18/2018 06:40 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Fish Killer - 04/18/2018 07:03 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Cole - 04/18/2018 07:41 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/18/2018 09:02 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - StirfryMcflurry - 04/18/2018 10:35 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/18/2018 12:25 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Fish Killer - 04/18/2018 12:39 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - follydude - 04/18/2018 07:50 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - johnny - 04/18/2018 09:04 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/18/2018 12:38 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/18/2018 10:13 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Pagerow - 04/18/2018 11:10 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Fish Killer - 04/18/2018 11:29 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - tom - 04/18/2018 11:55 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Fish Killer - 04/18/2018 12:12 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/19/2018 05:02 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/20/2018 11:03 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Greensleeves - 04/18/2018 10:50 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/19/2018 04:55 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - fishkller - 04/18/2018 11:25 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Greensleeves - 04/18/2018 11:55 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Fish Killer - 04/18/2018 12:40 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/18/2018 12:43 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Fish Killer - 04/18/2018 01:15 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - HAPDigital - 04/18/2018 01:28 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/18/2018 06:21 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Fish Killer - 04/18/2018 07:40 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/18/2018 06:30 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Fish Killer - 04/18/2018 07:38 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/19/2018 10:13 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/19/2018 10:13 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/19/2018 05:21 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Cole - 04/19/2018 05:57 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - HAPDigital - 04/19/2018 05:57 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/19/2018 10:03 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - onegoodturn - 04/19/2018 12:13 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/19/2018 12:32 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/19/2018 12:50 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - onegoodturn - 04/18/2018 12:56 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/18/2018 06:26 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/19/2018 10:05 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/19/2018 12:46 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/19/2018 01:06 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/20/2018 07:59 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/20/2018 09:23 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - StirfryMcflurry - 04/20/2018 09:23 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/19/2018 12:52 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/20/2018 07:54 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/19/2018 01:12 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/25/2018 07:15 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - fishkller - 04/18/2018 01:52 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - johnny - 04/18/2018 04:35 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - HAPDigital - 04/18/2018 05:24 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - johnny - 04/18/2018 05:27 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - fishkller - 04/18/2018 06:37 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - HAPDigital - 04/18/2018 08:58 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/18/2018 06:35 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - fishkller - 04/18/2018 07:41 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - fishkller - 04/19/2018 06:10 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/19/2018 07:11 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - RustyTruck - 04/19/2018 07:44 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 04/19/2018 12:40 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - chopola - 04/20/2018 10:36 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/20/2018 10:47 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - StirfryMcflurry - 04/20/2018 01:00 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Fish Killer - 04/20/2018 01:47 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - HAPDigital - 04/20/2018 05:03 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Fish Killer - 04/20/2018 05:35 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - HAPDigital - 04/20/2018 05:47 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Fish Killer - 04/20/2018 06:10 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Fish Killer - 04/20/2018 12:24 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Greensleeves - 04/20/2018 02:54 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/20/2018 06:20 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - HAPDigital - 04/20/2018 09:25 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/20/2018 05:53 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Fish Killer - 04/21/2018 03:52 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 04/21/2018 07:04 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - HAPDigital - 04/21/2018 07:20 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Cole - 04/21/2018 09:01 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Fish Killer - 04/21/2018 12:09 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - HAPDigital - 04/21/2018 02:16 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - fishkller - 04/21/2018 03:34 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Fish Killer - 04/21/2018 05:05 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - fishkller - 04/21/2018 07:29 PM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 08/08/2018 09:35 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 08/08/2018 10:27 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - Cole - 08/08/2018 10:28 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 08/08/2018 10:31 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 08/08/2018 10:33 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 08/08/2018 10:37 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - miker - 08/08/2018 10:44 AM  
 BLM protesting Starbucks   - scombrid - 08/08/2018 11:04 AM  
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 04/18/2018 12:43 PM
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scombrid

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I already said that the officers were acting properly.

What is in question is why these guys were treated differently than the average Starbucks loiterer. What was special about them?



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Originally posted by: scombrid

I already said that the officers were acting properly.


What is in question is why these guys were treated differently than the average Starbucks loiterer. What was special about them?


They went to the bathroom BEFORE ordering anything.

I'm positive that was explained...aud nauseum.

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I use the restroom before I order about 100% of the time. I wash my hands unlike you dirty ass crackers. Next excuse....
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer They went to the bathroom BEFORE ordering anything.

So do other people at Starbucks without getting arrested.

 

 

 



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Originally posted by: scombrid

Originally posted by: Fish Killer They went to the bathroom BEFORE ordering anything.




So do other people at Starbucks without getting arrested.




 




 




 



When you dont leave when asked to leave...calling the police is a normal thing.

FOOL!



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Originally posted by: Fish Killer They went to the bathroom BEFORE ordering anything.

Witness that took the video said that they asked to use the bathroom and were refused. Then they sat down and quietly waited. Then the police showed up. Then the friend they were waiting for showed up.

Witness also says that a woman came in and got the bathroom code without ordering anything.

Another person in the store apparently piped up and stated that she had been in the store for a couple of hours without buying anything.

The cops were called almost immediately after these guys asked for the bathroom code and then did not immediately leave after the bathroom access was refused.

Maybe all the witness are lying but it really sounds like these two receive special treatment.

 



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Originally posted by: scombrid

Originally posted by: Fish Killer They went to the bathroom BEFORE ordering anything.



Witness that took the video said that they asked to use the bathroom and were refused. Then they sat down and quietly waited. Then the police showed up. Then the friend they were waiting for showed up.


Witness also says that a woman came in and got the bathroom code without ordering anything.


Another person in the store apparently piped up and stated that she had been in the store for a couple of hours without buying anything.


The cops were called almost immediately after these guys asked for the bathroom code and then did not immediately leave after the bathroom access was refused.


Maybe all the witness are lying but it really sounds like these two receive special treatment.


 


Guess you will just have to prove that crap.

Didn't hear ANYTHING LEGITIMATE about any woman getting the bathroom code without ordering.

Did hear something about a woman "Lauren" who didn't want to be named....CLAIM what she did.

She was the black woman who took the video of the arrest.

As for just being there not ordering...that's not against policy....getting the bathroom code without ordering is against policy.

Quit crossing facts!

The bathroom codes were refused to the two that did not order anything....corporate policy dictates that they are asked to leave.

They were also asked to leave three separate trimes by police....and didnt.

They REFUSED!

Everyone did what they were supposed to do.





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Originally posted by: Fish Killer [. She was the black woman who took the video of the arrest.

Mellissa DePino took the video.

She isn't black.

Miker let this assumption slide too.

The bathroom codes were refused to the two that did not order anything

You said that they went to the bathroom without ordering.

Now you say they were refused the codes?

They went and sat off to the side after the refusal.

Why were the cops called so quickly?

 



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Originally posted by: Fish Killer [. She was the black woman who took the video of the arrest.

Mellissa DePino took the video.

She isn't black.

Miker let this assumption slide too.

The bathroom codes were refused to the two that did not order anything

You said that they went to the bathroom without ordering.

Now you say they were refused the codes?

They went and sat off to the side after the refusal.

Why were the cops called so quickly?

 



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Originally posted by: scombrid
Witness that took the video said that they asked to use the bathroom and were refused. Then they sat down and quietly waited. Then the police showed up. Then the friend they were waiting for showed up.



Witness also says that a woman came in and got the bathroom code without ordering anything.



Another person in the store apparently piped up and stated that she had been in the store for a couple of hours without buying anything.



The cops were called almost immediately after these guys asked for the bathroom code and then did not immediately leave after the bathroom access was refused.



Maybe all the witness are lying but it really sounds like these two receive special treatment.



 




I guess it HAS to be about race right? No other possibilities? Could it have simply been because they were men? Is it that far fetched that a woman would feel threatened by two men standing around and even more so when they refuse her request to leave her store? What if she had been sexually assaulted in the past? I mean she is a woman in THIS country, so the probability of it is pretty high. If you find out that she had been sexually assaulted in the past or had someone close to her that has, would you be so quick to assume race had anything to do with her asking them to leave? How about calling the cops when they refused?
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The facts remain:

No charges were filed.

The CEO met with the men in person.

The manager was let go.

All Starbucks will be closed for training.

The reality? This was viewed as a racist incident and steps are being taken to right the wrong. You can bitch all you want, but it isn't going to change shit.

P.S. He Johnny, if you believe what you post, you should back it up by using your real name. Are you man enough?

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Love the made up hypothetical BS. Talk about victim blaming.... The moral of the story is starbucks owned up to having poorly trained employee that in fact did something wrong with racial bias. Not only did they own up to it they are going to close down 8000 stores to train people about racial and implicit bias. Which is what I've been trying to tell you all here multiple times. Everyone needs this kind of enlightenment. Some of you think you're not racist but you do not have a clear vision of what racism is and can be. You just want to dismiss it, a telltale sign of racism. Anyway, I applaud starbucks. They are doing the right thing. I'm very impressed.
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Originally posted by: miker Is it that far fetched that a woman would feel threatened by two men standing around

They were standing around?

Woman that took the video of their arrest said they were sitting near her.

 

and even more so when they refuse her request to leave her store? What if she had been sexually assaulted in the past? I mean she is a woman in THIS country, so the probability of it is pretty high. If you find out that she had been sexually assaulted in the past or had someone close to her that has, would you be so quick to assume race had anything to do with her asking them to leave? How about calling the cops when they refused?

Falling into whataboutism?

Whatabout the other people in the store that were trying to figure out what the hell was going on when the cops showed up?

They seemed to indicate that there was no menacing going on.



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Quick, call Al Sharpton. I'm sure he'll have plenty of positive vibes and insightful ways we can all move past these troubling ''racist'' times. Patchouli for all mankind!! LOL get real, come up for air. Wake up peeps. The time for seeking out ways to be offended is over. Move on and stfu. stop making excuses for and defending bad behavior. buy something or get the f#ck out. plain and simple, a universal law. cry babies.

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Originally posted by: scombrid
Falling into whataboutism?




Huh? Clearly a wrong use of whataboutism on your part. I am not saying 'what about that' as a distraction technique.


I am saying 'what if' for the sake of not jumping to conclusions or making assumptions.


Your argument quality has gone down hill of late
 04/19/2018 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by: miker I am saying 'what if' for the sake of not jumping to conclusions or making assumptions.

What-if-ism then.

You can what if in any direction that you like and that is just speculation and assumption about the state of mind of the 9/11 caller. You chastise people for that but then you do it just for the sake of argument.

How about the timeline from when they entered the establishment to when the police were called?

How about what the store patrons?

You know, shit that actually happened and reports from people that were there and then work on figuring things out from that?



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