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Topic Title: So much for the First Amendment Topic Summary: ..eh Trump supporters Created On: 09/23/2017 11:08 AM |
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09/23/2017 11:08 AM
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But please, feel free to post your disgust with Trump's lack of respect for the Constitution at any time. lol
------------------------- I was right. |
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09/23/2017 11:42 AM
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09/23/2017 12:56 PM
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He's just throwing bananas in the monkey cage.
I hope more players take a knee after hearing him bitch. Damn snowflakes, all offended by free speech. ------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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09/23/2017 03:52 PM
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Being employed privately has NO allowance for free speech during working hours.
Sorry....you full of shit! Why don't you attempt speaking your mind while working your current job! Oh wait...you'll get fired for that! Darn! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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09/23/2017 04:14 PM
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NFL commissioner and players' union denounce Trump. So much for anyone getting fired for taking a knee, oppressors.
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09/23/2017 04:50 PM
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NFL commissioner and players' union denounce Trump. So much for anyone getting fired for taking a knee, oppressors. When the OWNERS get tired of losing a CRAPLOAD of money from lack of fans either live or on TV...my bet is that ALL NFL players will either stand or be fired. That day is coming REAL soon. FOOL! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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09/23/2017 05:36 PM
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What is the NFL?
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09/23/2017 05:55 PM
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09/23/2017 06:16 PM
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What is the NFL? Each player is contracted individually by a PRIVATE company. Your wordsmithing is null and void. Fool! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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09/23/2017 06:28 PM
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Kim Jong Un is a big fan of forcing his people to stand for their national anthem. I guess Trump is just like him.
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09/23/2017 06:32 PM
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Kim Jong Un is a big fan of forcing his people to stand for their national anthem. I guess Trump is just like him. Your teacher in third grade made you stand for it as well. Fool! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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09/23/2017 06:46 PM
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Plead the fifth because you can't plead the first.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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09/23/2017 07:34 PM
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I have lots of respect for the NFL speaking out against Trump and supporting players that take a knee.
The NFL and NFLPA showed support for players and players' rights following remarks from President Donald Trump, who while speaking at a political rally on Friday, said NFL fans should boycott games and team owners should fire players who fail to stand for the national anthem prior to games. "The NFL and our players are at our best when we help create a sense of unity in our country and our culture," NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said in a statement released Saturday morning. "There is no better example than the amazing response from our clubs and players to the terrible natural disasters we've experienced over the last month. Divisive comments like these demonstrate an unfortunate lack of respect for the NFL, our great game and all of our players, and a failure to understand the overwhelming force for good our clubs and players represent in our communities." NFLPA Executive Director DeMaurice Smith released this statement Saturday morning: "The peaceful demonstrations by some of our players have generated a wide array of responses. Those opinions are protected speech and freedom that has been paid for by the sacrifice of men and women throughout history. This expression of speech has generated thoughtful discussion in our locker rooms and in board rooms. "However, the line that marks the balance between the rights of every citizen in our great country gets crossed when someone is told to just 'shut up and play.' "NFL Players do incredible things to contribute to their communities. NFL Players are part of a legacy of athletes in all sports who, throughout history, chose to be informed about the issues that impact them and their communities. They chose -- and still choose today -- to do something about those issues rather than comfortably living in the bubble of sports. Their decision is no different from the one made by countless others who refused to let 'what they do' define or restrict 'who they are' as Americans." The responses came after Trump said, "Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, 'Get that son of a bitch off the field right now, out, he's fired. He's fired!' You know some owner is going to do that. He's going to say, 'That guy disrespects our flag; he's fired.' And that owner, they don't know it. They're friends of mine, many of them. They'll be the most popular person, for a week. They'll be the most popular person in this country." Few owners have said anything publicly about players not standing for the anthem or making other gestures -- such as raising a fist during the playing of the anthem -- since free-agent quarterback Colin Kaepernick didn't stand during a Week 3 preseason game in 2016. Kaepernick said he's standing in protest of what he felt was unfair treatment of minorities by law enforcement and the legal system. Several players, like Seattle defensive end Michael Bennett and Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins, have continued anthem protests initiated by Kaepernick, and have said they are doing so for the same reasons as Kaepernick did. On Saturday, New York Giants owners John Mara and Steve Tisch issued the following statement: "Comments like we heard last night from the president are inappropriate, offensive and divisive. We are proud of our players, the vast majority of whom use their NFL platform to make a positive difference in our society." Miami Dolphins owner and founder of Ross Initiative in Sports for Equality (RISE) Stephen Ross said the following via a statement: "Our country needs unifying leadership right now, not more divisiveness. We need to seek to understand each other and have civil discourse instead of condemnation and sound bites. I know our players who kneeled for the anthem and these are smart young men of character who want to make our world a better place for everyone. They wanted to start a conversation and are making a difference in our community, including working with law enforcement to bring people together. We all can benefit from learning, listening and respecting each other. Sports is a common denominator in our world. We all have the responsibility to use this platform to promote understanding, respect and equality." San Francisco 49ers CEO Jed York also released a statement on Trump's remarks: "The callous and offensive comments made by the President are contradictory to what this great country stands for. Our players have exercised their rights as United States citizens in order to spark conversation and action to address social injustice. We will continue to support them in their peaceful pursuit of positive change in our country and around the world. The San Francisco 49ers will continue to work toward bringing communities, and those who serve them, closer together." Green Bay Packers Packers President/CEO Mark Murphy also released a statement: "It's unfortunate that the President decided to use his immense platform to make divisive and offensive statements about our players and the NFL. We strongly believe that players are leaders in our communities and positive influences. They have achieved their positions through tremendous work and dedication and should be celebrated for their success and positive impact. We believe it is important to support any of our players who choose to peacefully express themselves with the hope of change for good. As Americans, we are fortunate to be able to speak openly and freely." Teresa Kaepernick, Colin's mother, responded to Trump referring to players as, "Sons of bitches," on Twitter, stating, "Guess that makes me a proud bitch." |
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09/23/2017 08:26 PM
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This has NOTHING to do with Trump!
NOTHING! Anyone claiming now that taking a knee is about him is an ASSHOLE! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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09/23/2017 08:28 PM
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You want to take a knee?
Take a little trip to Valley Forge in January. If you don't know where that is, just Google it from the sidelines. Hold a musket ball in your fingers and imagine it piercing your flesh and breaking a bone or two. There won't be a doctor or trainer to assist you until after the battle, so just wait your turn.Take your cleats and socks off to get a real experience. Then take a knee. Then, take one at the beach in Normandy where man after American man stormed the beach, even as the one in front of him was shot to pieces...the very sea stained with American blood. The only blockers most had were the dead bodies in front of them, riddled with bullets from enemy fire. Take a knee in the sweat soaked jungles of Vietnam. from Khe San to Saigon...Anywhere will do. Americans died in all those jungles.There was no playbook that told them what was next, but they knew what flag they represented. When they came home, they were protested as well..and spit on for reasons only cowards know. Take another knee in the blood drenched sands of Fallujah in 110 degree heat..Wear your Kevlar helmet and battle dress...Your number won't be printed on it unless your number is up! You'll need to stay hydrated but there won't be anyone to squirt Gatorade into your mouth. You're on your own. There's a lot of places to take a knee. Americans have given their lives all over the world. When you use the banner under which they fought as a source for your displeasure, you dishonor the memories of those who bled for the very freedoms you have. That's what the red stripes mean. It represents the blood of those who spilled a sea of it defending your liberty. While you're on your knee, pray for those that came before you, not on a manicured lawn striped and printed with numbers to announce every inch of ground taken...but on nameless hills and bloodied beaches and sweltering forests and bitter cold mountains...every inch marked by an American life lost serving that flag you protest. No cheerleaders, no announcers, no coaches, no fans...just American men and women...delivering the real fight against those who chose to harm us...blazing a path so you would have the right to "take a knee." You haven't an inkling what it took to get you where you are...but your "protest" is duly noted. Not only is it disgraceful to a nation of real heroes, it serves the purpose of pointing to your ingratitude for those who chose to defend you under that banner that will still wave long after your jersey is retired... If you really feel the need to take a knee, come with me to church on Sunday and we'll both kneel before Almighty God. We'll thank him for preserving this country for as long as He has. We'll beg forgiveness for our ingratitude for all He has provided us. We'll appeal to Him for understanding and wisdom. We'll pray for liberty and justice for all...because He is the one who provides those things. But there will be no protest. There will only be gratitude for His provision and a plea for His continued grace and mercy on the land of the free and the home of the brave. It goes like this... GOD BLESS AMERICA! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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09/23/2017 08:52 PM
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(a) Enlistment Oath. - Each person enlisting in an armed force shall take the following oath:
"I, (state name of enlistee), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States (President cannot make an order that violates the 1st amendment) and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
Amendment I: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. FYI the "conservative" complaining on this thread has never served a day in uniform nor understands the oath military members take when they sign up. |
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09/23/2017 09:48 PM
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Not happening at your place of employmeny!
You WILL be fired! Oh...you can say whatever you like...but your boss can fire you as well! You have NO right to speak your mind on HIS dime! You can't make him pay you either! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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09/23/2017 09:53 PM
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No NFL player will be fired. Mark my words....
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09/24/2017 04:13 AM
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Those who need to be reminded to place their hand over their heart during the national anthem should also be fired.
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09/24/2017 04:28 AM
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Forgetting and diliberatly disrespecting our country are two completely differently things.
But you knew that. Fool! Wait till you see the attendance backlash now. You haven't seen anything yet! You tried to stifle Tebow when he took a knee. now you want to disrespect our nation and armed services who have paid the ultimate price for our freedom.... NOT HAPPENING! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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