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 03/24/2017 07:31 PM
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fishkller

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..sucks at making deals.

What a suprise.




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 03/24/2017 07:44 PM
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KeyserSoze

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The art of making a deal - -
- - is knowing when to walk away.

He didn't lose anything - -
- - only time, and time will tell how much $$$ Obamacare/Affordable Care Act will cost people.

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 03/24/2017 08:30 PM
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Cole

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Trump wiped all penalties away, it's just a matter of time before all insurance companies drop those covered under Obamacare.

No trumpcare will lead to an implosion of the market.

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 03/25/2017 05:35 AM
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WG

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Obamacare/Affordable Care Act will cost people enough to keep 20 million insured.

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 03/25/2017 05:46 AM
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Cole

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The ACA is solid, thorough legislation that need tweaking.

It looks like republicans and America are learning that fact now.

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 03/25/2017 05:58 AM
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RustyTruck

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Good time to open Medicare to the underserved markets and negotiate drug prices.

Remember it was the far right that prevented trumpcare from passing. Make improvements and you could get bipartisan support.

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 03/27/2017 05:32 AM
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stokedpanda

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THE party of NO reaps what it SEW!

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 03/27/2017 05:41 AM
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Fish Killer

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Obamacare is done!

You can't force insurance companies to cover people for whatever you want and not have them charge for it.

They will leave as there is NO reason for them to stay!

They lose money the way this POS Law is set up.

How many have dropped out to date?

How many states have ONE insurance company left or NONE?

Come on...answer the question!

The Affordable Care Act is in fact UNAFFORDABLE!

How much is the ACA raising it's prices this year?

HOW MUCH?

It's already a JOKE!

Huge premiums with NO coverage (huge deductibles. co-pays and out of pocket)!

And you MORONS keep touting it's success and viability!

WOW!



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 03/27/2017 05:41 AM
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Fish Killer

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As for RyanCare...it was ObamaCare Lite.

Fact!

AND...Planned ABORTIONhood would still be in business!

Ryan tried to sell another POS CRAPCARE under the disguise that it was better than the POS CRAPCARE that we have now!

I'm glad it failed!

Let ObamaCare crash and burn!

Free Market will succeed.

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 03/27/2017 05:48 AM
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Cole

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The free market is getting ready to succeed in jacking your insurance rates through the roof.

..and why don't you take care of yourself so the rest of us won't have to pay your accelerated health costs when you get older.

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 03/27/2017 06:47 AM
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WG

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"Anyway, the one thing that fascinates me is how much attention the TV pundits pay to Trump's alleged remarkable abilities as a dealmaker. This is the man who became famous, after all, writing (not really) a book called The Art of the Deal! And so much of his 2016 presidential campaign was predicated on the notion that America makes lousy deals, and he was going to fix that. What better chance to show off that skill than the most complicated issue there is, health care?

Seriously? Apparently these pundits haven't paid that much attention to Trump's career since the book was published in 1987. After some good timing to get into Manhattan real estate market in the early 1980s right when it was poised to rebound, The Donald has shown -- best-seller notwithstanding -- that he has no deal-making skills whatsoever. Instead, Trump's business acumen has consisted of a) getting bankers to throw money at him because of his over-inflated reputation b) losing a ton of money (even in the casino business, for crying out loud) because of such large indebtedness c) stiffing all the contractors d) filing Chapter 11 and e) suing everybody involved.

Somehow, remarkably, that doesn't translate to enacting complex legislation in the United States Congress. And now everyone is shocked, shocked that America's self-proclaimed greatest dealmaker can't get 216 votes for a package that throws 24 million people off their health care insurance and raises premiums for elderly middle class folks while giving a massive tax cut to millionaires and billionaires. Dale Carnegie couldn't sell this piece of crapola.

You can usually mark the end of someone's presidency when either they can't get a major piece of legislation passed (George W. Bush's Social Security overhaul in 2005, Jimmy Carter's energy bills) or by a major scandal (Watergate, Iran-Contra, Monica). Trump is on the brink of both. He's been in office for only nine weeks."

Time to move 'The Art of the Deal' to the fiction section - Will Bunch

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malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill
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