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Topic Title: Let's Set'em All Free - - Topic Summary: Created On: 01/17/2017 03:22 PM |
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01/18/2017 08:21 PM
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It makes him feel more confident in his own manhood.
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01/19/2017 04:45 AM
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It makes him feel more confident in his own manhood. ...or masks homosexual tendencies. ------------------------- I was right. |
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01/19/2017 09:30 AM
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Those who didn't serve are always the biggest macho posers in my experience. Ted Nugent. Maybe some on here? Most military personnel I know are critical of the pardon, Military.com reported over 800 negative comments on their article. Some site the fact 22 vets try or do commit suicide everyday as a rebuttal to Obama using her attempts as sign of enough punishment. Could he be throwing a bone to the LGBT community with this one? If he was not a she would it still be in the news, methinks no. ------------------------- I troll 2L.com to be a better person in real life |
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01/19/2017 09:59 AM
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If someone were talking about her 6 years ago, it would have been correct to use that pronoun. Now it's just incorrect and stupid. how is it incorrect and stupid? wasn't she a he in jail? she didn't serve her time as a she did she? |
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01/19/2017 10:10 AM
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So, you repugs are all against Manning. But you guys were willing to lick Julian Assange's boots a few weeks ago.
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01/19/2017 10:24 AM
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Manning and Snowden are American citizens, Assange is not.
Manning and Snowden were the thieves, and the source of the leaks; Assange was only a conduit for Manning's and Putin's. Shouldn't you be at least as pissed at Manning for stealing and disseminating classified information as you are at Russia and Assange for stealing and revealing DNC foibles? As far as the transgender aspects are concerned, it seems the government could have found an appropriate federal prison facility. As noted in the earlier post citing Wikipedia, Manning said she would rather be executed or spend life in prison than have her male pictures posted on the internet. That could have been arranged too. Edited: 01/19/2017 at 10:34 AM by RegularJoe |
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01/19/2017 10:41 AM
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Isn't the intelligence community alleging that Russia also has compromising info on Trump and the RNC, chose to burn Hillary first so they can blackmail Trump later, with the end goal being complete delegitimization of US gov and a divided nation, or for access to favored treatment?
If true, that's a little more serious than just hacking the DNC. But who knows if it is true, and if it is true it will be widely disregarded, because the disinformation campaigning, both foreign and domestic has severely undermined confidence in the media and the government. |
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01/19/2017 10:47 AM
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As far as the transgender aspects are concerned, it seems the government could have found an appropriate federal prison facility. There was some discussion of that 2 years ago, not sure why it didn't happen. But that it didn't, made the 6 years she did serve for her crime a worse punishment. I think the President did the right thing offering her clemency. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/H...ison/story?id=23713399 edit- Reading that though again it seems that her attorney opposed that move, perhaps hoping for something like this instead. ------------------------- "The truth is incontrovertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill Edited: 01/19/2017 at 10:54 AM by WG |
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01/19/2017 10:59 AM
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But that it didn't, made the 6 years she did serve for her crime a worse punishment. I'll agree it was probably hellish by way of the army not following standard civilian psychological treatment guidelines. As your ABC link pointed out, "In federal prisons, guidelines for housing of transgender inmates in sex-segregated facilities are regulated by the Prison Rape Elimination Law." I guess that law doesn't apply to the military. Still having some trouble with that. Obama may have had some forward-looking concern about Trump's handling of Manning in the future, but I think he had executive options that could have alleviated most of those concerns. Edited: 01/19/2017 at 02:09 PM by RegularJoe |
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01/19/2017 11:07 AM
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If he was not a she - -
- - would the sentence have even been commuted or pardoned ??? ------------------------- Who is Keyser Soze? |
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01/19/2017 11:15 AM
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If he was not a she - - - - would the sentence have even been commuted or pardoned ??? I doubt it, I think it drew far more attention, also why did the army pay for the surgery!? ------------------------- I troll 2L.com to be a better person in real life |
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01/19/2017 11:24 AM
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They have not, although there was a report back in Sept that they might...
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01/19/2017 11:25 AM
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If he was not a she - - - - would the sentence have even been commuted or pardoned ??? Probably not. ------------------------- "The truth is incontrovertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill |
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