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ionn

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John Pilger: Why Hillary Clinton Is More Dangerous Than Donald Trump
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n the circus known as the American presidential campaign, Donald Trump is being presented as a lunatic, a fascist. He is certainly odious; but he is also a media hate figure. That alone should arouse our scepticism.

Trump’s views on migration are grotesque, but no more grotesque than those of David Cameron. It is not Trump who is the Great Deporter from the United States, but the Nobel Peace Prize winner, Barack Obama.

According to one prodigious liberal commentator, Trump is “unleashing the dark forces of violence” in the United States. Unleashing them?

This is the country where toddlers shoot their mothers and the police wage a murderous war against black Americans. This is the country that has attacked and sought to overthrow more than 50 governments, many of them democracies, and bombed from Asia to the Middle East, causing the deaths and dispossession of millions of people.

No country can equal this systemic record of violence. Most of America’s wars (almost all of them against defenceless countries) have been launched not by Republican presidents but by liberal Democrats: Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama."

"Donald Trump is a symptom of this, but he is also a maverick. He says the invasion of Iraq was a crime; he doesn’t want to go to war with Russia and China. The danger to the rest of us is not Trump, but Hillary Clinton. She is no maverick. She embodies the resilience and violence of a system whose vaunted “exceptionalism” is totalitarian with an occasional liberal face.

As presidential election day draws near, Clinton will be hailed as the first female president, regardless of her crimes and lies – just as Barack Obama was lauded as the first black president and liberals swallowed his nonsense about “hope”. And the drool goes on." 



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 10/18/2016 02:18 PM
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Greensleeves

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Psychotic!!

"No country can equal this systemic record of violence. Most of America’s wars (almost all of them against defenceless countries) have been launched not by Republican presidents but by liberal Democrats: Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama."

 

 10/18/2016 02:18 PM
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WG

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Donald Trump is not sane.
We have no idea what that whiner would actually do.

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 10/18/2016 02:34 PM
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But we do know what war-hawk Clinton wants to do.

So does the Bush/Cheney party, so does Glenn Beck.
 



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 10/18/2016 02:40 PM
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WG

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Glenn Beck doesn't know shit.
The Bush/Cheney party is dead.
Hillary is far less dangerous than Trump.

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 10/18/2016 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by: WG Glenn Beck doesn't know shit. The Bush/Cheney party is dead. Hillary is far less dangerous than Trump.


Is this the mantra you repeat to yourself, while practicing yoga so you'll have the flexiblity to bend and twist yourself into postions of supporting Hillary?



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Greensleeves

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Gaze into the crystal ball! 

Clinton said she supported a no-fly zone in Syria.  That is a tad hawkish.  Other than that.  Pilger and Rockstroh and the rest of this bizarre set of heads popping up to support the last of the Tea Party have nothing.

 10/18/2016 02:54 PM
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WG

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Originally posted by: ionn

Originally posted by: WG Glenn Beck doesn't know shit. The Bush/Cheney party is dead. Hillary is far less dangerous than Trump.


Is this the mantra you repeat to yourself, while practicing yoga so you'll have the flexiblity to bend and twist yourself into postions of supporting Hillary?



No twisting required. I mostly agree with her.
I disagree with her some, I voted for Obama and Bernie in primaries, but I make my choices and take my chances.

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malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
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 10/18/2016 02:56 PM
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WG

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I stand corrected.
Glenn Beck has learned some shit.

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 10/18/2016 05:43 PM
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Trump says he and he alone knows how to conquer Isis and he knows more than the generals. He would kill their families to stop them, make all Muslims suspect and unite warring Muslim factions against us. Do your own thinking and when you quote someone else, make sure they include these omissions so you don't look like you are lying by omission or deliberately misleading anyone who doesn't look deeper.

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 10/18/2016 06:13 PM
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 10/18/2016 06:22 PM
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RustyTruck

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US Allies are about to put the hurt on isil in Mosul and push them out of Iraq.

Ask Phil.

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 10/18/2016 06:32 PM
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nukeh2o

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more dangerous than trump. uh, duhhhh

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