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 07/07/2016 10:58 AM
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Sniper

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Not that most of you care but this is going to be running on a loop during what should be television commercials soon:



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 07/07/2016 11:36 AM
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 07/07/2016 11:43 AM
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can someone explain to me the difference between "extremely careless" and "grossly negligent"
 07/07/2016 12:11 PM
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The difference is White House vs. Jail House.

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 07/07/2016 12:20 PM
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For those that are voting Hilary:





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 07/07/2016 04:24 PM
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Oh, I expect that we will be seeing a whole lot of crap far worse than that, as the fascists get more & more desperate.

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 07/07/2016 05:06 PM
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Interesting that their superior skills don't include the rules of the English language.



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 07/08/2016 05:42 AM
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This isn't desperate. This is real life. The opposition would be stupid not to go after this. In the public's eye, I think the attempts to defend her actions and lies are the ones that will come off as looking desperate.

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“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

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 07/08/2016 05:55 AM
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I think what she did was a huge mistake and she should have known better.

But, in life we have to consider context. Remember that time the President kept a private email server at the headquarters of the RNC and deleted millions of them?
I didn't think so, so here's your context:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B...use_email_controversy


Is the Secretary of State to be held to a higher standard than the president?

At this point, most people see the witch hunt for what it is.


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 07/08/2016 05:59 AM
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Three of 30,000 emails sent either to or from her private server had the heading of Classified. A senator asked the Director that direct question. He said he was not sure of the exact number but thought that was correct.

None of the emails sent to or from her private server were intercepted maliciously.
( as far as the investigations determined. )

If you watched the hearing it would be plain to see that this is a political witch hunt in its purest form. This poor Gowdy dude is very far out.

Most of the questioning was not even questions. It was repug aholes ripping the integrity of the FBI Director. ( A life long repug until recently) The direct accusations were that Obama and or the Clinton campaign had direct influence on the decision.
Directly with Director Comey.

Comey comes across with high integrity , repugs come across as total lunatics.

There is no doubt that the State Department, in the past, when Clinton was there, and now, can handle the transmission of classified and above material in a more secure manner.

Repugs can spend hours on rabbit trails, but consider the presidential nomination of someone to SCOTUS or address gun violence. Nope no time for that. Mean while more shootings in the street. Nero would be proud.

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 07/08/2016 06:14 AM
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Sniper

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Originally posted by: jdbman Three of 30,000 emails sent either to or from her private server had the heading of Classified. A senator asked the Director that direct question. He said he was not sure of the exact number but thought that was correct. None of the emails sent to or from her private server were intercepted maliciously. ( as far as the investigations determined. ) If you watched the hearing it would be plain to see that this is a political witch hunt in its purest form. This poor Gowdy dude is very far out. Most of the questioning was not even questions. It was repug aholes ripping the integrity of the FBI Director. ( A life long repug until recently) The direct accusations were that Obama and or the Clinton campaign had direct influence on the decision. Directly with Director Comey. Comey comes across with high integrity , repugs come across as total lunatics. There is no doubt that the State Department, in the past, when Clinton was there, and now, can handle the transmission of classified and above material in a more secure manner. Repugs can spend hours on rabbit trails, but consider the presidential nomination of someone to SCOTUS or address gun violence. Nope no time for that. Mean while more shootings in the street. Nero would be proud.


There is nothing wrong with what Comey found with his investigation. However, making a statement, as he did on Tuesday, has a huge impact on an ongoing investigation. Now, if the DOJ were to go against his recommendation, they would have to fight a huge uphill battle. In addition, he clearly laid out the case for trying her for gross negligence, then recommended that they don't indite her. Hilarious!

I found the questions that were asked of Comey pretty straight forward. What did you see as being out of bounds?

Are you worried that repug aholes were the ones shooting cops in Dallas last night?

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“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

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 07/08/2016 06:23 AM
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Originally posted by: jdbman Three of 30,000 emails sent either to or from her private server had the heading of Classified. A senator asked the Director that direct question. He said he was not sure of the exact number but thought that was correct. None of the emails sent to or from her private server were intercepted maliciously. ( as far as the investigations determined. ) If you watched the hearing it would be plain to see that this is a political witch hunt in its purest form. This poor Gowdy dude is very far out. Most of the questioning was not even questions. It was repug aholes ripping the integrity of the FBI Director. ( A life long repug until recently) The direct accusations were that Obama and or the Clinton campaign had direct influence on the decision. Directly with Director Comey. Comey comes across with high integrity , repugs come across as total lunatics. There is no doubt that the State Department, in the past, when Clinton was there, and now, can handle the transmission of classified and above material in a more secure manner. Repugs can spend hours on rabbit trails, but consider the presidential nomination of someone to SCOTUS or address gun violence. Nope no time for that. Mean while more shootings in the street. Nero would be proud.

I think the appropriate way of expressing it is, "bitch hunt," though "wtich hunt" would certainly apply too. She won't get out of this unscathed.



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 07/08/2016 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by: jdbman

Three of 30,000 emails sent either to or from her private server had the heading of Classified. A senator asked the Director that direct question. He said he was not sure of the exact number but thought that was correct.



None of the emails sent to or from her private server were intercepted maliciously.

( as far as the investigations determined. )



If you watched the hearing it would be plain to see that this is a political witch hunt in its purest form. This poor Gowdy dude is very far out.


Except that she lied and said that 0 emails contained classified info, and the Director said there was no way to know if they had been intercepted maliciously. He also said several times a Gmail account would have been more secure. Watching the hearing the Director got questions from all types of people, some of them went for more political gotcha type questions than others, but I think all levels of questions were necessary to show that there really is no charge to bring her in on, even though she was extremely careless and stupid.

My favorite was the guy who asked if the Director would grant her access to classified material if she wanted to work at the FBI knowing the way she handled her emails.
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Originally posted by: Sniper

I found the questions that were asked of Comey pretty straight forward. What did you see as being out of bounds?


This last one is from Rep. John Micah of Florida, who spent most of his time laying out a full-blown conspiracy theory about collusion between Comey, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, and Loretta Lynch about this investigation. Then he claims there's something "fishy" about the whole thing:

Tomorrow we'll go back to our districts and we have to explain to people, in a couple cafes where I see folks and have meetings. They're going to ask a lot of questions about what took place...One week ago, former president Clinton meets with the attorney general in Phoenix. The next Friday, last Friday, Mrs. Lynch, the AG, says she's going to defer to the FBI. On Saturday morning I saw the vans pull up...Then on Tuesday morning...you basically said you're going to recommend not to prosecute. Correct? And then Tuesday we had President Obama and Secretary Clinton arrive in Charlotte at 2:00. Shortly thereafter we had the attorney general closing the case. This is rapid fire. I mean, my folks think there is something fishy about this. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but there are questions on how this came down.

I hope what you'll tell the folks in the cafe is, look me in the eye and listen to what I'm about to say. I did not coordinate that with anyone. The White House, the Department of Justice, nobody outside the FBI family had any idea what I was about to say. I say that under oath, I stand by that. There was no coordination. There was an insinuation in what you were saying. I don't mean to get strong in responding, but I want to make sure I was definitive about that.


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"Since I have understood fascism."

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 07/08/2016 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck
Originally posted by: Sniper I found the questions that were asked of Comey pretty straight forward. What did you see as being out of bounds?
This last one is from Rep. John Micah of Florida, who spent most of his time laying out a full-blown conspiracy theory about collusion between Comey, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, and Loretta Lynch about this investigation. Then he claims there's something "fishy" about the whole thing: Tomorrow we'll go back to our districts and we have to explain to people, in a couple cafes where I see folks and have meetings. They're going to ask a lot of questions about what took place...One week ago, former president Clinton meets with the attorney general in Phoenix. The next Friday, last Friday, Mrs. Lynch, the AG, says she's going to defer to the FBI. On Saturday morning I saw the vans pull up...Then on Tuesday morning...you basically said you're going to recommend not to prosecute. Correct? And then Tuesday we had President Obama and Secretary Clinton arrive in Charlotte at 2:00. Shortly thereafter we had the attorney general closing the case. This is rapid fire. I mean, my folks think there is something fishy about this. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but there are questions on how this came down. I hope what you'll tell the folks in the cafe is, look me in the eye and listen to what I'm about to say. I did not coordinate that with anyone. The White House, the Department of Justice, nobody outside the FBI family had any idea what I was about to say. I say that under oath, I stand by that. There was no coordination. There was an insinuation in what you were saying. I don't mean to get strong in responding, but I want to make sure I was definitive about that.


Fair question and fair response.

A lot of people are asking questions about why Bill Clinton is having private meetings with the head of the DOJ while is wife is under federal criminal investigation and running for President. They are also asking a lot of questions about why Obama, who the DOJ reports to, is campaigning with someone who is under federal criminal investigation by his DOJ.

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“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

“Your boos mean nothing, I’ve seen what makes you cheer” ~ Rick Sanchez
 07/08/2016 07:16 AM
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Bill and Loretta: Dumb move x2.
Obama will support the D candidate, period.

If there were evidence of intent to the extent it would prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, charges would have been recommended. That's it. There's really nothing more to see here. Whitewater-Benghazi-Email, Hillary has been under investigation since the 1990's and still nothing will stick.

Hell if Trump wasn't running against her he'd be singing her praises. She's even slicker than Willie.

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 07/08/2016 07:36 AM
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".......ongoing investigation...."

There is no ongoing investigation. The Director of the FBI said he would not send a prosecution recommendation to DOJ. AG confirmed no prosecution.

Questions asked and questions answered from Director Comey.

"Gross negligence..." Who is going to prosecute for that?

Witch hunt, bitch hunt .....done deed.

Repugs took the opportunity to try and impeach the Director of the FBI. Epic Failure.

No one is fooled by the blatant political agenda. Clinton's conduct was bad. Repug Senators are worse.

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The only thing that separates what Hillary Clinton did from what David Patraeus or Scooter Libby did is that Comey is saying that she was too stupid to know what she was doing. That is her defense. Is this who you want as your President? You want to elect grandma, who says she can't be trusted to know what is classified and what isn't?

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

“Your boos mean nothing, I’ve seen what makes you cheer” ~ Rick Sanchez
 07/08/2016 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by: jdbman
No one is fooled by the blatant political agenda. Clinton's conduct was bad. Repug Senators are worse.


You just said it, Clinton's conduct was bad (definitely worse than having questions about the results of the investigation). There was a recommendation for no charges in spite of this. That raises questions, that doesn't make it a blatant political agenda. The questions needed to be asked.
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