"The embargo is up to Congress. The President can't end it. Congress won't."

So GOP members could still end up looking like the tools they are?  Glorious!

Marco Rubio, Lindsay Graham, even Democrats.  

Obama's action makes it easier to travel to Cuba, but you still have to do something on the Official List of Permitted Things To Do (like attend a professional meeting, do religious stuff, get educated, participate in an international surfing contest) and go through an Official Travel Agent and travel on a charter flight.  No tourists allowed.  

"General licenses will be made available for all authorized travelers in the following existing categories:; (7) public performances>>

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Surfing could be a public performance???>>

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So we still can't travel there?

Awesome. I'm sure that the Cuban government will pass along any economic benefit they receive to their people and won't keep it all for themselves. Communist dictators aren't known for doing things like that.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

another 0/5. OF COURSE you can travel there, if you wanna pay the price. pay attencion, snipe . & Merry Navidad, in advance!

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That's what so great about Conservatic "logic" they're always "Half right". Omitting of course the real fundamentals behind it. Why in fact did Freddie and Fanny fail? Never mention that do they? Well...it was REPUBLICAN tossing more of Reagans locks into the boiling cauldron of DEREGULATION by allowing Private and Commercial banks along with big Insurance to co-mingle funds which resulted in the formation of all kinds of scurrilous financial instruments including derivatives and packaging bad mortgages with false low risk ratings. When these mortgages went bad big Insurance Like AIG couldn't cover the losses....bubble burst. Stick to the facts sniper...not half truths. Agreed...Frank was an ignorant tool. But Repugnican Policy but them in that position.

And now your Kansas Congressman (Yoder) has stripped the regulations put in place designed to prevent a reoccurrence of the Recession. Repugnicans are long on Bullsh!t and short on ideas.



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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness -
John Kenneth Galbraith

Please give your examples of specific DEREGULATION that was led by Reagan and conservatives, that caused this.

It sounds like you are pretty sure of yourself, so I'm sure you have something to back up your claims other than just assuming that happened.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

They were FORCED by congress to write loans to people that weren't qualified to recieve these loans, in the name of FAIRNESS.

Of course the financial experts knew mixing the funds was a bandaid solution that would eventually fail, but their hand was forced and they made the best of it (from their financial perspective). A pretty clever idea, albiet crooked as hell.

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CUBA, amigos. TRY to stay on topic. Or start another one.

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I was talking about the cuban congress.....

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The original post was more about how awesome daner thinks Obama is than about Cuba. It was doomed from the start. But yeah, Cuba. Just because the Cuban government has more money and is doing better, doesn't mean the Cuban people will be doing any better and none of this affects me if I still can't go there. Why would we lift the embargo and still not allow people to vacation there?

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Yea, that would be dumb.
But we do have a Republican congress...

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Rightwing tools in the US congress will never lift the embargo on Cuba. They're stuck in the same ideological bubble where homeowners caused the Crash. From inside there, they can't see the obvious, such as US sanctions causing far more human suffering than Castro.

What do you think caused the crash?

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

What I saw here in SFL looked just like hogs slipping on their own shit at the trough of a confinement farm, even when home values outpaced local incomes well beyond reason.
Investor frenzy, backed by imaginary capital created by fraudulent investmens schemes on Wall Street coupled with bull shit loans like ARMs to anybody with a pulse from every lending institution in the US.

We all did.
Foolish over extension:

"The Federal Reserve Bank of New York recently asked a simple question: What percentage of mortgages lent during the bubble went to people who owned more than one home?

Its answer: nationwide, over a third. In Arizona, California, Florida, and Nevada, it was nearly half. Astoundingly, about 1 in 10 mortgages lent in those states during 2006 and 2007 went to those who owned more than four homes. All figures are about double the rate seen before the bubble."

fool

Debt:
With all the talk of blaming lenders, agents, brokers, Wall Street, buyers, and everyone else for the collapse in the housing market, there does seem to be one true culprit in all this mess. Debt. We constantly hear the term "credit crisis" but what we really are facing is a "debt crisis." I'm not sure when credit became debt but the fact of the matter is American households would have kept the Ponzi Scheme going longer if it wasn't for the fact that the monthly servicing of their debt crushed them like a ton of bricks.
ybudget


But this wasn't in Cuba.


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 12/18/2014 at 01:13 PM by WG

Good point WG and one you rarely here anybody talk about.

People thought money was free and completely over extended themselves (in some cases ignorantly, but others intentionally). Then as soon as the realization kicked in that they couldn't afford the new bose movie theater they bulit in their 10,000 sqft mansion or the new Excursion in their driveway, they just walked away from their obligations blaming the evil coperations on wall street and the crooked politicians in DC, without ever considering their own part in the fiasco.

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Yesterday, after more than 50 years, we began to change America's relationship with the people of Cuba.

We are recognizing the struggle and sacrifice of the Cuban people, both in the U.S. and in Cuba, and ending an outdated approach that has failed to advance U.S. interests for decades. In doing so, we will begin to normalize relations between our two countries.

I was born in 1961, just over two years after Fidel Castro took power in Cuba, and just as the U.S. severed diplomatic relations with that country.

Our complicated relationship with this nation played out over the course of my lifetime -- against the backdrop of the Cold War, with our steadfast opposition to communism in the foreground. Year after year, an ideological and economic barrier hardened between us.

That previous approach failed to promote change, and it's failed to empower or engage the Cuban people. It's time to cut loose the shackles of the past and reach for a new and better future with this country.

I want you to know exactly what our new approach will mean.

First, I have instructed Secretary of State John Kerry to immediately begin discussions with Cuba to re-establish diplomatic relations that have been severed since 1961. Going forward, we will re-establish an embassy in Havana, and high-ranking officials will once again visit Cuba.

Second, I have also instructed Secretary Kerry to review Cuba's designation as a State Sponsor of Terrorism -- a review guided by the facts and the law. At a time when we are focused on threats from ISIL and al Qaeda, a nation that meets our conditions and renounces terrorism should not face such a sanction.

Third, we'll take steps to increase travel, commerce, and the flow of information to -- and from -- Cuba. These steps will make it easier for Americans to travel to Cuba. They will make it easier for Americans to conduct authorized trade with Cuba, including exports of food, medicine, and medical products to Cuba. And they will facilitate increased telecommunications connections between our two countries: American businesses will be able to sell goods that enable Cubans to communicate with the United States and other countries.

Learn more about the steps we're taking to change our policy.

These changes don't constitute a reward or a concession to Cuba. We are making them because it will spur change among the people of Cuba, and that is our main objective.

Thread retaken.

 

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Way to go Obama. I shed a tear for freedom. 

Big Macs and credit cards for everbody

I hope this increases the flow of Cubans out of Florida

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Rand Paul thinks it's a great idea.

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I was right.