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Created On: 05/21/2018 06:41 AM
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 Lawns Suck   - Zeus - 05/25/2018 10:45 AM  
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 05/25/2018 02:48 AM
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scombrid

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Yeah, it as gallon pots and not 4" for the starts. We got them from Rockledge Gardens. Kind of surprised that they had that many in stock at one time. Called Maple Street at the time and they were out but expecting a shipment soon. Maple Street didn't want to take a pre-order.

Hand watered every every 2 days early on and tapered that back over the course of 2 months during establishment. April and May last year were super dry and hotter than average so watering during establishment was necessary. But now that the stuff is established it is mostly on natural water except if something else in that zone is newly planted and we use the broadcast irrigation for watering during establishment phase. Once established the stuff is almost cactus level drought tolerant. 

New growth is soft but the runners are hard. Not the softest surface for bare feet. Feels better than scratchy St. Augustine.



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scombrid

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Tudor house on Rockledge Drive down by Park Ave hired a firm out of Orlando for a full native renovation of a fairly big lot. They have lots of different ground covers and plants. Have a couple of small turf areas that look like Bahia grass. The huge back yard looks like they went medow look with lots of various spartina type bunch grasses and taller wildflowers. It is kind of a demonstration of possibilities beyond mimosa.

Yesh, Bahia is not a native but I think it is considered a FFNN because of its drought tolerance and because it doesn't invade and completely remodel ecosystems when it escapes. I know too that Harvester Ants love Bahia seeds so at least one native critter likes it.

BTW: we have tried perennial peanut on the side that gets about 3/4 sun and have not been able to achieve great coverage there. Caving and using Jasmine minima over there for now. 

Another note: I really wish we could get the condos between Barton and Orange to re-do their landscape. It is acre on acre of chemlawn St. Augustine.



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Zeus

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I had a neighbor that hated grass so much he covered his yard in white river rock about 4" deep and gave it a monthy Roundup treatment to abolish anything and everything green.  When he retired and sold his place the new owners just let it go.  Now 3 years later it is the most outstanding collection of native flowering vegitation and grasses you'll ever find.  It might be a rodent haven, but damn it looks good. 

These new folks put absolutely zero effort into it too, not even a single seed.  Nature did all the work, and that yard is showing up the dude across the street who thinks he's the head greenkeeper at Augusta.  He's also complaining to the HOA that they're growing weeds.  Fortunately the HOA isn't listening. 

 05/25/2018 02:05 PM
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Plan B

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pretty cool.....

 

anyone have a similar suggestion or a yard that gets part shade and plenty of water? (not irrigated, just low lying)

 05/29/2018 07:09 AM
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tom

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^ We got some of this mint at Maple Steet to use between our house and the neighbor.  

Low sun, dampest place in the yard but far from "wet".  

Grows like crazy and smells great when you mow or trim.

https://www.fnps.org/plants/plant/clinopodium-brownei

 

 



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 05/29/2018 12:32 PM
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Plan B

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cool.  Not all my yard is wet... and the "highest" point gets a good amount of sun.  Alot gets a fair amount of shade from all my oak trees, but unforunately the lot next to me (in the direction of natural water flow) has been retardedly backfilled, and the dude runs sprinklers all the time.... basically rain water now collects in my yard now.... and I'm sick of all the dollar weeds (that spawn from his winter watering)

 

Edit:  just checked that link... said "Not salt tolerant".  I'm a block west of A1A (which is a little further from beach than it is in brevard) but closer to the marsh

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tom

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I'm on the beach side too, but west, just one house off the Lagoon, 

a few blocks from the ocean, and the salt isn't killing it.  YMMV.

Your neighbor sounds like mine,

full on "Death to the Lagoon" yard. 



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Plan B

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Sort of.... in St. Augustine.

About 3 blocks east of marsh / ICW .... about 1/2 mile (as a crow flies) from ocean

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