http://www.politico.com/news/2...general-report-079474


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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Oh the trumpsters love their fairy tales.

Great stories. It doesn't matter that they're not true, the Fox viewers repeat them anyway and even with the proof, they still think that they "feel" true. Fox is their safe space.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

"If you repeat a lie enough times" is the order of the day for the cons.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

I'm still clinging to one conspiracy - that you guys are getting your butts kicked. And by a guy who is supposedly the dumbest man alive.

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I :heart; Q

"the dumbest man alive" many of us have the satisfaction of knowing we didn't foist that $hit of a man on America

I am proud to have played my part in getting him elected. I admit, however, that it galls me a bit that you ingrates are also benefitting from his great leadership. Why he doesn't at least throw you out of the country is beyond me. Guess that is a hallmark of a great leader.

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I :heart; Q

That's because you hate our country and our freedoms, comrade TurdPapski

If the tool could he would. But this is America and he is a child flailing about in a world vastly more sophisticated than he and his aging faithful. Thankfully his enablers have the savvy of rubes arriving on turnip trucks and the health associated with pre-boomers on fast food and alcohol diets.

You're a useful idiot for the big con job, but I must say the youth are flocking to the left in numbers we never saw during neo-con or neo-liberal administrations.

Trump isn't dumb, he's amoral and lacks any intellect, but he knows how to run a game on a mark.

If the Dems sell out Bernie and trump wins with a minority of the vote again against some shitty liberal, the notion of american democracy will be exposed as fraud.
We'll continue organizing the youth. Electoral politics is no path to power under capitalism.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

As much as I would enjoy picking off prog revolutionaries, I don't see it coming to that. People who stampede to nearest safe spaces when you yell "Trump," or don't use the approved pronouns, won't be storming the barricades under fire. Can those people even say the word gun without having a meltdown?

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I :heart; Q

The mighty Mims idiot savant, aka emperor pigpoleon: be talkin tuff, huh?
Which chapter of the fantasy narrative "Walter 'pigblo' Mitty" is this one from porky pug?
"Freedom fighter for Putin defends chumpflandia against actual american patriots!"
His heroic battle cry, all the way home:
weeeeeaak!.........


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It's a democratic hoax

Edited: 12/10/2019 at 02:40 PM by nukeh2o

Unfortunately, few young people vote.

What is there for them to vote for?

Just Bernie.

@pabs - The armed left is growing far faster than I expected. You conflate neo libs with the left.
Certainly outnumbered, but the John Brown Gun Clubs are growing.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Trump is not scholar, he refuses to read anything and he thinks he already knows everything. That doesn't mean he's stupid, on the contrary, he is an excellent carnival barker. He will not produce a revolution, he will be leading the other lemmings off the cliff. More evolutionary. Tpap will not run off the cliff, he will be resolved to categorize those doomed rubes to the RINOs that deserved their fate for thinking that they could work with progs.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Pattycakes and his fairy tales.. they make him him feel better.

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Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

Toolpapski LOL

in both senses of the word

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Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

Barr, aka Trump's lead henchman is already attempting to discredit the report.

I find it hilarious that they boasted of draining the swamp, when the reality is the fact that they have politicized absolutely everything in the government.

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I was right.

When you don't like the results of investigation, you send Barr in to lie about it. When you can't, you send Barr in to conduct another investigation with the right result stated before it even starts. Trump used the not so subtle "current" head of the FBI description when he heard, because he doesn't read, that his conspiracies were without fact or support, and that's with everyone cooperating. Sniper has pushed every one of these conspiracies and like all people who believe in simple, convenient conspiracies to understand complex and inconvenient facts, the proof, or more accurately the lack of proof, will not change his mind or opinions. After all, the facts aren't what led these people to these firmly held opinions so why would an utter lack of any support, consistency or corroboration cause them to change that firmly held opinion.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

The IG report proves that the FISA application was denied until they used the dossier.

Strzok's texts prove that there was bias against Trump among the investigators. The fact that Strzok didn't come right out and tell someone that he was biased doesn't particularly surprise me.

The IG report was narrow in scope and didn't have the ability to indict anyone on criminal charges. The Durham report does.

"The activities we found here don't vindicate anybody," - Horowitz

I would have thought that the Dems would have learned to look before they leap by now. Before you guys go blowing each other, I would let this settle and wait for the Durham report to come out.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Edited: 12/11/2019 at 10:06 AM by Sniper

How convenient that someone at the DOJ selected texts to share with the press, to help Trump push his conspiracies.

The facts are that despite Strozk and Page having personal political beliefs, they were able to set those aside to perform their duties with impartiality.

The IG report stated that the FBI made 17 major "errors" in their investigation, including forging emails and intentionally omitting exculpatory evidence.

How many of the 17 "errors" were made in Trump's favor?

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Edited: 12/11/2019 at 10:46 AM by Sniper

Don't look at me, you're the one who loves cops.

ACAB

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

The 17 errors had to do with a single person, Carter Page.

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I was right.

Did the IC find that the investigation into trump was justified or not? Simple enough question. Were the FBI agents who leaked info to Giuliani biased against Hillary? Is that a crime?

If I go on record saying all cops are bastards, am I immune to arrest because they will thereafter be biased against me and it wouldn't be fair?
LOL.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

17 errors but still justified. Translation: people make mistakes. It's why pencils have erasers. None of those mistakes rose to the level of corruption, deep state or conspiracy.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

An example of a mistake would be using the wrong fork at dinner, not forging an email used to obtain a warrant to spy on people with secret court system.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Four people. Carter Page, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone and Flynn.

So which witch on this hunt? Carter Page? Ok, but as more becomes available, we will see if he gets indicted once the other witches turn snitches.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

"Over 1 million pages" of investigative reports and only 17 mistakes about one guy. LOL talk about the lettuce on a nothing burger.

Yo....SHITFORBRAINS!

The 17 mistakes were on the FISA warrants....NOT the investigative reports!

They are 17 LIES!

Deliberate and intentional LIES...

Just like you just deliberately did!

MORON!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 12/12/2019 at 04:22 AM by Fish Killer

"The OIG examined more than one million documents that were in the Department's and FBI's possession and conducted over 170 interviews involving more than 100 witnesses. " However, there were only 17 errors found. Talk about accuracy.

Don't forget the cheese. Lots and lots of free government GOP cheese.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

I love the title of this thread.
Conspiracies like Trump being a Russian agent?
Conspiracies like Trump paying prostitutes to pee on a bed that Obama slept on in Russia, which turned out to be a joke that was told in a bar?
Conspiracies like Kavanaugh being a rapist?

OR

Conspiracies about the government listening in on phone calls of the Trump campaign. They did.
Conspiracies about the government having informants aka spies in the Trump campaign. They did.
Conspiracies about FISA abuse. There was FISA abuse. The FBI forged documents to say that Carter Page was not a CIA asset when he was. If it had not been forged, the FISA warrant on him probably wouldn't have been granted.
Conspiracies about the "deep state". You can call it the "deep state", the bureaucratic state or whatever you want but it is a fact that presidents come and go but the leadership of many of the agencies stays pretty static. They are not elected and are accustomed to running things the way they want. Trump has pretty much busted much of this up. I doubt we are done hearing about Brennan. We may hear more about Comey and Clapper but I'd be really surprised if Brennan's name doesn't bubble back up in the Durham report.

AND

Still left to go?
John Durham and Bill Barr went to Italy to discuss Joseph Mifsud's involvement in potentially entrapping George Papadopoulos. The day after they returned from their trip, Durham announced that his investigation had moved to a criminal investigation. I'd be surprised if we don't hear more about crooked ways that the FBI and CIA worked together to justify surveilling the Trump campaign when the Durham report is released.

I would be surprised if we don't hear more about the Don Jr. meeting with the Russian lawyer, who met with Fusion GPS before her meeting, took information given to her by Fusion GPS to the meeting with Don Jr., and then met with Fusion GPS after the meeting with Don Jr.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

I see what you did there. You put the patently stupid conspiracies that Trump doesn't believe in one category with the ones that he does. You seemed to have forgotten some of the best. Mexico is going to pay for our wall. Windmills cause cancer. Obama is a Kenyan National. Obama forged his birth certificate. Russia is our friend. There are good people on both sides of the white supremacy marches. Trump was investigated by the FBI based on the Steele dossier. The FBI infiltrated trump's campaign. Crowdstrike has the DNC server in the Ukraine. Ukraine oligarchs one crowdstrike. Rudy guilianni is a lawyer. He never paid the porn star or the playmate to keep quiet. He gives generously to his own charity. Manafort and stone are good guys and only criminals because they were unfairly and politically targeted.

You would be surprised by more stupid shit you want to be true. That would not surprise me at all.


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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Sniper thinks the whistleblower's rights should be violated for his orange master regardless of the law. We confirmed this.

Some POS GOP senator had Valerie Plamed the whistleblower but the press so far has refused to print the name. This is the type of chicanery that is the trump norm. There are no limits, boundaries or rules until it happens to them.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Everybody knows the name. His name isn't protected. He is protected from retaliation within the workplace. That's it. Show me the law that says otherwise.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

I don't listen to right media and have never heard the name. NPR has never even broached the subject.



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I was right.

I did various times. You are ignoring it. You actually need me to post the lines from the law again along with the quote about it from the OIG yesterday saying it is illegal to out the WB, again?

Here is the OIG stating the law about WB protection and their legal right to complete confidentiality.



Are you dumb Sniper? Or do you just believe what you want despite reality?

"It's in the law in the IG act that congress wrote and it is an important provision."

Edited: 12/12/2019 at 07:09 AM by HAPDigital

Sniper, as I've told you before, there is no point to arguing with certain people on this forum. Might as well be arguing with an amoeba, though amoebas are more advanced. Hap, slimy, wtf, gdude, fishkller are the ones who come to mind. None of those people have had an intelligent post in the 20 odd years I've been here and they aren't going to start now.

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I :heart; Q

Another delusional moron, probably the biggest one on the forum. ^^^

A whistleblower's identity is not protected. You people are literally making up laws. lol

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

You're, what we called in the Army, a dumb fuck.






"Whistleblowers have a right to expect complete and full confidentiality in all circumstances, it's in the law in the IG Act that Congress wrote and it is a very important provision"

How dumb can one be to think he knows more than the OIG that helped write the law? Oh yeah, a dumb fuck like Sniper.

Top it off you posted something from OSHA lololol what a dumb fuck.

https://oig.justice.gov/hotline/info.htm

Confidentiality
Individuals who report allegations are not required to provide their identity to the OIG. However, persons who report allegations are encouraged to identify themselves to help the OIG evaluate and investigate the complaints.

Confidentiality for complainants is established by Section 7(b) of the Inspector General Act of 1978, which prohibits the OIG from disclosing the identity of a DOJ employee who reports an allegation or provides information, without the employee's consent, unless the OIG determines that disclosure is unavoidable during the course of the investigation.

Did you click on the video, DF? It's queued to right where IG Horowitz states the law. Can you tell me he is wrong? He wrote the law.

https://oig.justice.gov/hotline/whistleblower-protection.htm

"When whistle blowers are willing to identify themselves to the OIG, but want to maintain their confidentiality, we make every effort to honor that request, and actually, the law requires us to do so..."



Edited: 12/12/2019 at 08:01 AM by HAPDigital

Okay boomer...LMFAO



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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

The same people and organization that revealed the secret identity of covert CIA operative Valerie Plame to punish her husband for his criticisms of Iraq's nuclear capabilities will be at work outing this guy. Remember that freak show that showed up the pizza parlor looking to execute pedophiles at highest levels within the Democratic Party? What do you think happens to the whistle blower. How far will the crazies retaliate when a sitting senator goes so far as to reveal his identity? If he's murdered, would that same POS senator take responsibility, what is he gets the familiar avalanche of death threats and needs police protection, who pays for that?

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Snipe isn't interested in law or reality.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

He'll ignore that this occurrence ever happened and when it is brought up again he'll copy and past his same lie of a response about the retaliation in the workplace bit.

The whistleblower law for intelligence agencies where their identities are secret anyway is just a tad different. We have been over this.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Why do these Trump nuts think they know more than all the officials on the subject matter at hand? Is it an illness?

The whistleblower is going to say what has already been said and come out of this like the patriot they are! Is the GOP so stupid they are going to do this to themselves?

You cant take any republicans seriously anymore
They have disconnected.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill