Just another day of crazy news.

This spin.

That spin.

Then the weekend.

Nothing will come of it.

Except noise...

Edited: 04/18/2019 at 08:14 AM by sandi

Most sensible thing - -
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Who is Keyser Soze?

Agreed and well said. What will be interesting to watch is how quickly some will reach their solid conclusions after claiming to have read a 400 page document with redactions. Another thing to watch for is lack of attention to the business of the nation. And then, the people's approval rating of Congress. God help us all.

I know right.... Like being in a "national emergency" but watching golf and tweeting about it from Mar-a-Lago.

Spin, spin, spin.

There will be evidence of obstruction of justice, but with a rubber stamp Senate there's no point to impeachment.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

spin to the left. spin to the right. spinnin' all around on a thursday night

It's looking like they took all that was offered from Russia. One would think that that in itself is a crime; it appears not.

Barr is having a press conference to generate the narrative. That will work well for Trump considering we will never see the entire report.

Doesn't congress view classified information all the time?

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I was right.

they are issuing two reports, one redacted and one less redacted for congress.

Edited: 04/18/2019 at 05:24 AM by HAPDigital

Much of the redaction is due to Roger Stone's pending trial, and other ongoing investigations, and whatever else the Whitehouse requested.

Based on Barr's testimony in front of Congress, he worked with the Mueller team on the redactions. He had not discussed them with Trump or his administration.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

We were attacked by Russia. What are the consequences?

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Ask Hillary and comey!

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You're right, he did say that. I think his most interesting statements were regarding the legality of coordinating with Wikileaks. Paraphrasing: Since they couldn't prove collusion with regard to the crimes committed gathering the stolen emails (Trump campaign didn't assist Russian hacking efforts), it wasn't a crime to coordinate the timing of the release of the stolen emails with Wikileaks. Wow...

Accessory after the fact? That shit stinks.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Special counsel examined 10 instances of potential obstruction, Barr says

Barr let's trump off the hook because he was "frustrated" with the investigation.

Summary: Trump is the Snowflake in Chief, officially, and his AG is his personal defense attorney.

Edited: 04/18/2019 at 07:16 AM by HAPDigital

Summary: Hap is a Russian Fool. He is a dupe and continues to display his gullibility for wild conspiracy theories. I am betting that Hap is going to become an Obstruction Fool.

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Conspiracy theories? Everything stated here was said by the AG minutes ago. You are really dumb aren't you.

I didn't fall for the Russian Collusion hoax, now did I? I'd suggest that you of all people have very little standing to call people dumb.

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It wasn't a hoax. We have not read the report. Also, Barr stated nobody "willingly" worked with the Russians. There was collusion and evidence of it.

I still can't believe how the media ran wild with this shit, using every unnamed and unverified source they could get their hands on. I would say the majority of the media sources at some point in time reported that they had sources who had informed them that Trump had colluded and would be prosecuted. They did it all for the ratings. I'm wondering if the Democrats will continue to trust them. Usually, if someone sells you a product that ends up being a hunk of shit, you typically try something else. I'm not sure that our media ever recovers from the self-inflicted black eyes they have given themselves over the past two years.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

So you're cool with Trump being allowed to break the law because his feelings got hurt? FYI bud the report has not been released nor have we heard from Mueller. All we heard was Barr's summary again and admission and omission to Trump obstructing justice.

Edited: 04/18/2019 at 07:37 AM by HAPDigital

Also, you appear to be cool with the fact that the AG gave the President early secret access to the report investigating him but denied the coequal branches of government that access.

He brought up the fact that Trump was frustrated because they had to discuss his intent. They determined that he responded the way he did on Twitter and elsewhere because he was being held back from doing his job, not because he was trying to obstruct the investigation.

HAP, you are too far gone. You are never going to accept this. You are way worse than a birther.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

LOL Sniper is making excuses for a criminal. Don't talk to me about conspiracy, I use facts for my posts not outrageous accusation. Never have, never will.

Edited: 04/18/2019 at 07:47 AM by HAPDigital

Trump had some negative tweets about an investigation with no underlying crime.

Bill Clinton went to some people and said, "hey, the FBI is going to come to talk to you and when they do, I need you to say....."

Do you see the difference?

Oh, yeah. You use facts! lol Ones that you get from your sources. HAP, stop making a fool out of yourself and go lick your wounds.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

The problem is it was not just tweets. Also, who is Bill Clinton? I voted for Bush. Snipes your're a lawbreaker sympathizer and make posts based on speculation. The Clinton talk is proof.


Edited: 04/18/2019 at 07:55 AM by HAPDigital

BULLSHIT!

You have been using epic volumes of KNOWN false information for TWO FRICKIN YEARS ON THIS FORUM!

FACT!

FOOL!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

"After nearly two years of investigation, thousands of subpoenas, and hundreds of warrants and witness interviews, the Special Counsel confirmed that the Russian government-sponsored efforts to illegally interfere with the 2016 presidential election but did not find that the Trump campaign or other Americans colluded in those schemes," he said.

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As for obstruction, Barr said that the report recounts 10 episodes involving Trump and "discusses potential legal theories for connecting these actions to elements of an obstruction offense." But he said the White House "fully cooperated" with the investigation, and that he concluded that the evidence is not sufficient to establish an obstruction-of-justice offense by Trump.

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Really? Of course they will. These are the suckers that P.T. Barnum was referring to. We are dealing with people who cannot learn. How many times in the last couple of years have they bought a press falsehood and made fools out of themselves? Russian Collusion, Travon Martin, Michael Brown, Jussie Smollet, Covington kids, that hag that made up the assault claim against Kavanuagh, that Trump said Nazis were good people, to name a few. Hell, an amoeba would have learned by now not to trust the press. Not these progs.

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fox "news" not happy with trump.

let the tweets begin...

Barr is already trying to explain away the president's behavior - "He was frustrated"

What next? He didn't get a good night sleep, he was hungry, and his tummy hurt?

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Edited: 04/18/2019 at 07:06 AM by RustyTruck

I suppose a condition of a conspiracy would be that that one would need to be intelligent enough to realize they are conspiring. I think that's the essence of it.

The trump team was a bunch of patsies used by the russians to execute their plan to subvert the election. They participated without knowing they were marks.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Ignorance and feelings being hurt are no excuses for breaking the law.

There are some whoppers buried in the nuance of Barr's meticulously parsed nothingberder speech.

Trump fired two FBI directors and the AG, intimidated witnesses, and made public admissions of his intent. There are 10 actions of obstruction, not just some "frustrated" tweets.

Yup, snipes overlooks facts. Just makes shit up how he sees it. Then he' bring up a Clinton or an Obama. lol idiots.

I was just using the Clinton example to show you what real obstruction of justice looks like.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

No, that's what it looks like when a GOP House of Representatives move forward with articles of impeachment.

Game over.

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I :heart; Q

A president that uses meme's. You guys love your own.

Redacted Mueller Report in Full

Lots of this is forwarded to the SDNY as I stated multiple times earlier in the year and was called a liar, and was told I made stuff up or was pushing conspiracy theory. Same thing about multiple grand juries.

Facts, use them....

This report shows Peter Smith was contacted by Michael Flynn to find the deleted Clinton emails, at Trump's request.

Mueller states that they did not have confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice. If it did we would state so. (He obstructed justice) he also states Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct by the president." Mueller declined to determine Trump obstructed justice because of fairness issues created by DOJ's position that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

Edited: 04/18/2019 at 08:51 AM by HAPDigital

Thank you for the reminder! Another great example of obstruction of justice. Deleting 30,000 subpoenaed emails and then attempting to erase any trace of them, using a product you bought called BleachBit.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

This report is about Trump and his people, not Clinton. Start another thread if you'd like but all the whataboutisms will not change this damning info that is now out.

HAP, you are delusional. I seriously hope you don't go talking this shit at work or in public.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

The FBI is delusional?
Redacted Mueller Report in Full

Lots of this is forwarded to the SDNY as I stated multiple times earlier in the year and was called a liar, and was told I made stuff up or was pushing conspiracy theory. Same thing about multiple grand juries.

Facts, use them....

First page states that Russian government interfered in 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion.


This report shows Peter Smith was contacted by Michael Flynn to find the deleted Clinton emails, at Trump's request.

Mueller states that they did not have confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice. If it did we would state so. (He obstructed justice) he also states Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct by the president." Mueller declined to determine Trump obstructed justice because of fairness issues created by DOJ's position that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

Mueller says candidate Trump repeatedly asked his national security adviser Michael Flynn for Clinton emails, and as a result Flynn contacted former GOP Senate staffer Barbara Ledeen and party activist Peter Smith Ledeen consulted with Smith, saying that Clinton emails had been "purloined by our enemies" Smith created a company to obtain the emails in summer 2016, saying he had contacted hackers with "ties and affiliations to Russia...and that his efforts were coordinated w/Trump campaign" Ledeen checked wth certain intelligence sources that have access through liaison work with various foreign services to determine if any of those services had gotten to the server.

"the investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the investigation."

The President's efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests.

Within approximately five hours of Trump's famous debate statement telling Russia to hack Clinton, the GRU offices targeted Cliton's personal office for the first time.



Trump "sought to have AG Sessions unrecuse and to have Special Counsel removed, and engaged in efforts to curtail Special Counsel investigation and prevent disclosure of evidence to it, through public and private contact with potential witnesses."


"when Sessions told the President that a Special Counsel had been appointed, the President slumped back in his chair and said, 'Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I'm fucked.'"

The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign. The investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit fro a Trump presidency and worked to secure the outcome.

McGahn decided to quite because he did not want to participate in events that he described as akin to the Saturday Night Massacre. He called his lawyer, drove to the WH, packed up his office, prepared a resignation letter with his chief of staff, told Preibus that the president had asked him to "do crazy shit".


"We concluded that Congress has the authority to prohibit a President's corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice"

Edited: 04/18/2019 at 09:49 AM by HAPDigital

was just about to add that last quote of yours. funny

Even funnier, the Mueller report confirms Huckabee Sanders is a Liar.

"Sanders told the press after Comey's termination that the White House had heard from "countless" FBI agents who had lost confidence in Comery. But the evidence does not support those claims. Trump even told Comey at their Jan 27th dinner that the people of the FBI really like him. No evidence shows the President heard otherwise. before deciding to terminate Comey and Sanders acknowledged to investigators that her comments were unfounded.

Liars gonna lie....



Edited: 04/18/2019 at 10:11 AM by HAPDigital

False. I didn't call you a liar. I called you a fool. And you continue to prove that every day. This is over, done, fini. Everyone who has looked at it has found no collusion, not the Senate, House or Mueller. Every single prog press organization has left no stone unturned and spent millions of dollars looking for any evidence of collusion and found zilch. Seriously, what does it take to convince you guys that you were wrong? A statement from God himself on stone tablets? But if you want to continue to give the sane segment of the country laughs and persuade them that they should never again vote for dems because they are batshit crazy, more power to you. I will be your biggest supporter.

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I :heart; Q

Who says I am talking only about you? You continue your self absorbed clown act....

Edited: 04/18/2019 at 08:53 AM by HAPDigital

Redacted Mueller Report in Full

Lots of this is forwarded to the SDNY as I stated multiple times earlier in the year and was called a liar, and was told I made stuff up or was pushing conspiracy theory. Same thing about multiple grand juries.

Facts, use them....

This report shows Peter Smith was contacted by Michael Flynn to find the deleted Clinton emails, at Trump's request.

Mueller states that they did not have confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice. If it did we would state so. (He obstructed justice) he also states Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct by the president." Mueller declined to determine Trump obstructed justice because of fairness issues created by DOJ's position that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

Mueller says candidate Trump repeatedly asked his national security adviser Michael Flynn for Clinton emails, and as a result Flynn contacted former GOP Senate staffer Barbara Ledeen and party activist Peter Smith Ledeen consulted with Smith, saying that Clinton emails had been "purloined by our enemies" Smith created a company to obtain the emails in summer 2016, saying he had contacted hackers with "ties and affiliations to Russia...and that his efforts were coordinated w/Trump campaign"

"the investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the investigation."

The President's efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests.

Within approximately five hours of Trump's famous debate statement telling Russia to hack Clinton, the GRU offices targeted Cliton's personal office for the first time.

Edited: 04/18/2019 at 09:00 AM by HAPDigital

Thats because you ARE a liar!

A pathological liar!

Fact!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Was Hillary The Real Colluder?

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Nunes, who heads Congress' investigation into the matter, said it was likely that information "was handed directly from Russian propaganda arms to the Clinton campaign, fed into the top levels of the FBI and Department of Justice to open up a counterintelligence investigation into a political campaign that has now colluded (with) nearly every top official at the DOJ and FBI over the course of the last couple years. Absolutely amazing."

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We have to agree. If all that is true, it is absolutely amazing. After all, these are serious felonies, using the federal agencies to spy on a political opponent in league with a hostile foreign power.

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As we said, the only real collusion appears to be on the part of the Clinton campaign - aided by the Obama administration, CIA chief John Brennan and a handful of high-level officials at the Department of Justice and FBI.

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Investors Business Daily

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Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/investors-business-daily/

Investors Business Daily: Factual Reporting: MIXED

Mueller report: 100% accurate

"All right. I just finished the Mueller Report. I'm going to combine the most shocking and important revelations in one thread. Long and short: there was collusion, there was obstruction, Donald Trump needs to be removed from office. Immediately. 1/

Mueller found that Russia was actively interested in electing Trump president, as early as his announcement, if not earlier. Operations began just as Trump Campaign took off. Obvious the two are parallel organizations that occasionally worked together, had the same goals. 2/

Multiple members of the Trump Campaign were approached by Russia. They were receptive sometimes, other times they just proceeded with knowledge that Russia was interfering on their behalf. They were not ignorant of the fact that Russia was interfering, not at all. 3/
Trump and Cohen continued work on Trump Tower Moscow deal while actively misleading the public as to whether he had business in Russia. He knowingly lied to the American public while Cohen worked with people who seemingly thought the hotel and the election were intertwined. 4/

Perhaps the most critical piece of information is that the Trump Campaign knew that the DNC emails were going to be released before they were. They had an active, multi-pronged plan in place to capitalize off the communications stolen by the Russian government. 5/

Mueller found that Donald Trump, himself, knew that Wikileaks had the DNC emails before they were released and was in contact with campaign members and people outside of campaign and planned how to capitalize off their release. 6/

rump's call for Russia to find Clinton's emails was fruitful. Within hours they followed his call and worked to find them. Despite saying it was just a TV stunt, he repeated the call off-camera. It was collusion in real time and in the light of public. No other way to say it 7/

As for the Trump Tower meeting, Mueller believed that Donald Trump Jr and Jared Kushner committed crimes, but worried that courts would lose the thread on legal definition of the crime and wasn't sure what the $ value of Clinton dirt was and if it was enough. 8/

Paul Manafort was especially lousy in the collusion front. He obviously had financial incentive and discussed battleground states with Russian individual, including Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, leading to suspicion that there were targeted efforts or interference. 9/
Manafort discussing battleground states with Russia is really, really unsettling. There's a ton of new ground here to cover and who knows what it led to and what can be proven. You could make an argument that this is possible what turned the election. 10/

In terms of obstruction, it is quite obvious that Mueller was communicating that there were SEVERAL instances of obstruction, SEVERAL instances of attempted obstruction, and that Congress should address the issue. 11/

Trump actively wanted Mueller out of the investigation, said as much repeatedly. He wanted to fire him and worried that his appointment would be "the end" of his presidency. 12/


Trump repeatedly told his subordinates to obstruct justice. He had them contact the principals, including Comey and Flynn, in order to take their temperature and communicate what Trump thought. It was a giant game of illegal telephone. 13/

Trump repeatedly would call Comey, take his temperature, and try and get him to take it easy on Flynn. He had Reince Priebus contact Flynn, take his temperature, seemingly try and work him in order to keep his loyalty. 14/

Multiple people in Trump's orbit declined to perform actions they thought were obstruction, including Chris Christie, who counseled Trump on how to not obstruct justice and watched him do it anyway. 15/

After it was revealed that Mike Flynn had illicit contact with Russia, Trump shook his hand and told him he'd be taken care of. It seems as if the exchange was a promise that Trump would help him with the fallout. 16/

Trump continually and actively addressed those in his orbit to either lie or coverup what they'd done wrong. He was constantly worried people would roll on him and constantly sought to get their stories straight in case of investigation. 17/

In a bizarre situation, Trump said outloud that he wanted an Attorney General who would protect him. He said he believed the AG position wasn't independent. He wanted an individual who would "protect him" and wouldn't mind keeping him illegal informed of investigations 18/

Trump knew that false testimony had been provided, particularly in Cohen's case. He was aware of a crime being committed and allowed it. 19/

Trump wanted to obstruct even more than he did, but the only thing keeping him from doing so was that those around him didn't want to be accessories to a crime. Don McGahn said he wanted him to do "crazy shit" and refused. 20/

Now, the big, big, big takeaways. Mueller wrote this report in such a way as to send a message that the investigation was not the end all be all of this matter. It's obvious he was keenly aware that there was still much work to do in regards to both collusion and obstruction 21/

In collusion, Mueller repeatedly mentions that he was hindered by the Trump team either lying or else not providing information. He said they destroyed evidence and stonewalled him. That's why he couldn't establish the charge in totality. 22/

In terms of obstruction, Mueller was clearly putting the matter in the hands of Congress. This is a full and explicit layout of impeachable, high crimes. He was not intending Barr to steamroll over this thing. Not at all. 23/

What's more, Barr not only lied, it appears he actively obstructed justice by misrepresenting the report in his summary. This wasn't just a partisan structuring, it was an attempt to try and save Donald Trump and the administration. 24/



What William Barr did here is beyond disgusting and beyond shameful. He should be removed from office and there should be ramifications. This is, to put it bluntly, a massive and indefensible act of cover-up a systematic and overwhelming crime. 25/

The Trump Campaign and the Trump Organization are criminal enterprises. The only difference between them and the infamous "mob" is that their crimes are explicitly white collar and international in nature. They acted with an intention to commit crimes, over and over. 26/





It's impossible to read this report and not notice how careful they were to skirt the line of collusion and obstruction. They were obviously aware of what they were doing and that this is even a matter of discussion is an indictment of our political and judicial system. 27/

From the moment Donald Trump announced his campaign he engaged in one unethical and criminal act after another. It's in black and white that he and the people around him are happy traitors who put their wealth and power above the country's wellbeing. 29/

The House of Representatives must vote to impeach Donald Trump. I don't care if it won't carry out in the Senate. It's what impeachment exists to do. It's their constitutional obligation to impeach him for high crimes. 32/

Republicans have a duty to remove Donald Trump from office. They can hide behind partisanship all they want, but it's right here in the open that he's betrayed the country and broken the laws. They need to realize that duty is higher than party. And it needs to happen now. 33/"



Jared Yates Sexton



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Its like, remember when OJ got off for murder, then got whacked in a civil trial and then ended up in the slam.

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Bobby should have been wearing his MAGA hat!

Hahahaha. Another Obstruction Fool. And a liar. Name the two FBI directors that Trump fired.

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Safe to assume that they're okay with the report being shared with the Whitehouse as early as Tuesday. Congress and the public still waiting, as Barr is clearly laying out the spin to give the team a head start. I expect this battle to wage on for awhile.

So... Don Jr. was colluding with Wikileaks too, not just Roger Stone.

Nice cast of characters

Nunes has proven himself a liar again and again and has no credibility outside the Faux bubble. IBD is a partisan rag, I might as well post something from the Palmer Report.

Let's stick to Mueller today, shall we? I can understand our local trumpies wanting to dance a jig right now though.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Trump staff lying to the public (press secretary speaks for the President):







"Fake news media"? Right.....

Trumpeters calling people liars on here have no problem with this. So ridiculous.

Trump Cleared: No Collusion, No Obstruction, No Coordination, No Conspiracy

By Ryan Saavedra
April 18, 2019

Attorney General William Barr announced during a press conference on Thursday that Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation did not find that members of the Trump campaign conspired, coordinated, or colluded with Russians during the election.

"As you know, one of the primary purposes of the Special Counsel's investigation was to determine whether members of the presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump, or any individuals associated with that campaign, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election," Barr said. "As you will see, the Special Counsel's report states that his 'investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.'"

"Thanks to the Special Counsel's thorough investigation, we now know that the Russian operatives who perpetrated these schemes did not have the cooperation of President Trump or the Trump campaign - or the knowing assistance of any other Americans for that matter," Barr continued. "That is something that all Americans can and should be grateful to have confirmed."

Speaking on the Russian Internet Research Agency, which sought to create division between Americans on social media, Barr said: "the Special Counsel found no evidence that any Americans - including anyone associated with the Trump campaign - conspired or coordinated with the Russian government or the IRA in carrying out this illegal scheme. Indeed, as the report states, '[t]he investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons knowingly or intentionally coordinated with the IRA's interference operation.' Put another way, the Special Counsel found no 'collusion' by any Americans in the IRA's illegal activity."

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

She should be fired!

More...

Mueller report: WikiLeaks sent Donald Trump Jr. a password to access the website http://putintrump.org ; Jr. told campaign staff he successfully used the password.


"Did I meet with people that were Russian? I'm sure, I'm sure I did. But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way, shape or form."


Oh really?

The attorney general also said that Russians didn't have the "knowing assistance" of any Americans in their interference in the 2016 campaign.

"The Russian operatives who perpetrated these schemes did not have the cooperation of President Trump or the Trump campaign -- or the knowing assistance of any other American for that matter," Barr said.

This is telling, they are suggesting it's not collusion/conspiracy if the trump people were too dumb to know they were helping the russians and vice versa.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Mueller: "The President's efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests."

So what that says is that trump tried to obstruct justice, but he won't be charged because the OLC says a sitting president can't be charged, and the people he directed to carry out the obstruction aren't charged because they refused to do it.

There's obstruction by the president; only it's up to Congress to charge a president, Mueller made it clear he couldn't do it because of the Justice Dept OLC opinion.

But I'm not a lawyer, and Pabs is out of his mind. Can one of you legal guys confirm or correct me?

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Edited: 04/18/2019 at 11:29 AM by RustyTruck

No collusion, no obstruction. It is a done deal. Where is MoveOn.org when you need them?

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Lol the Mueller report states 10 counts of obstruction but will not prosecute because of DOJ policy.

No...one couldn't have committed obstruction if a crime wasn't committed!

Mueller KNEW from before the investigation that Trump was innocent.

Better look that FACT up...as it's been proved now.

Mueller is in DEEP SHIT!

Watch out for handcuffs.

...for Mueller!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 04/18/2019 at 02:14 PM by Fish Killer

"No...one couldn't have committed obstruction if a crime wasn't committed!
Mueller KNEW from before the investigation that Trump was innocent."

Wrong as always Squishy Fishkill

Mueller said an underlying crime isn't necessary to prove obstruction of justice, and noted people have various reasons to obstruct justice.
"The injury to the integrity of the justice system is the same regardless of whether a person committed an underlying wrong," he said.


Bloomberg news



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It's a democratic hoax

Edited: 04/18/2019 at 02:49 PM by nukeh2o

Mark Pollot, J.D. Constitutional Law & Civil Rights, University of San Diego School of Law (1986)
Answered Mar 27, 2019
He cannot obstruct justice by exercising his exclusive authority to fire his appointees for any reason or no reason at all. He foesn't Even have to give a reason. Congress tried twice to restrict that authority by statute. In fact, the impeachment of Andrew Johnson, Lincoln's VP who succeeded him after Lincoln's assasination, was because of Johnson's refusal to snide by the Tenure of Office Act. A subsequent Congressional attempt to restrict the President's authority was struck down by the Supreme Court as unconstitutional. Congress cannot achieve the same result by trying to bring it under an obstruction of justice statute.
Further, you cannot instruct justice by publicly proclaiming your innocence. Not only is that protected by the first amendment, obstruction of justice requires a corrupt interference ("hey, I didn't do it and I think the prosecutor is out to get me and the entire investigation is illegal" will not qualify, even if you are guilty. How much more inappropriate to base a corruption claim on that kind of statement if you are in fact innocent. Do we want, as a matter of policy, to base an obstruction charge on protestations of innocence? I think not.
Yes, obstruction can occur even when someone is innocent but, as I said, it must be corrupt. Suborning perjury, bribing a witness, etc., may be obstruction, but nothing that is claimed as a basis for obstruction of justice by Trump fits the bill.


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Sorry...you failed...AGAIN!

FOOL!

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

If a cop pulled you over today and you didn't understand why you were being pulled over because you didn't feel like you were doing anything wrong and he said "Sir, do you know why I've pulled you over today?" and you replied by saying "No, officer. Was I speeding?" then followed up by saying "Sir, the reason I am pulling you over today is because you are committing treason."

Think you might do or say something that might be construed as obstructing their investigation over the next two years of your life, using the same criteria that you are holding Trump to?

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

No, I'd follow the police and the law, cooperate and get a lawyer. I wouldn't obstruct procedure and abuse power. Not that I have any power to abuse.


Edited: 04/18/2019 at 02:28 PM by HAPDigital

Liar!

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Mueller Report: "If we had confidence ... POTUS clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state...we are unable to reach that judgement. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Is it me or does Bob MAGA Barr resemble Fred Flintstone....

No, there is a resemblance now that you mention it.

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I :heart; Q

The more we read, the more damning it is. The dems won't impeach for political reasons and because the trump controlled Senate will jury nullify.

The American government is a joke.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Well their is a silver lining. This report proved the media was right all along the way and Trump's "fake news media" campaign is a bust. MM is vindicated. Trump and his team are all confirmed to have lied to the public on multiple occasions, most notably the press secretary. Sunshine clears the mold.....

What planet are you living on???

It sure isn't Earth!

Fool!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

This is a perfect example of how Democrats can get beat by the barstools and still find a way to declare victory while they are bruised and bloody, laying on the ground.

Trump beat all the Republican candidates for GOP nomination, beat the GOP for the GOP nomination, beat Kochs and big GOP donors for the GOP nomination, beat Hillary Clinton, probably most significantly beat a rogue FBI leadership, and beat Mueller. Now he's going back to take some scalps from those who have contributed to this mess and taken a lot of joy in what it has caused.

You guys realize that if Russia's goal was to create distrust in our election process and create havoc then the Democrats and the media have given that to them in spades, right?

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

"You don't need to have been convicted of a crime. Impeachment isn't about punishment. It's about cleansing the office." - @LindseyGrahamSC Sen. Graham himself established a standard that demands Trump's impeachment. - Link

Vid Here

Dotards have zero credibility. LMFAO

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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

Edited: 04/19/2019 at 07:40 AM by wtf

Trump won't beat this report.



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I was right.

He already did.

Fool!

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Trump is fucked.

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I was right.

Yeah....just like you said that there was collusion....a MILLION times!

Just like you said Killary would win!

Just like you said Trump committed treason!

Yada

Tada

Yada.

The only one fucked here is YOU!

By Trump!

Expect a LOT more fucking to come!

It's time to investigate the investigators!

FOOL!

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Edited: 04/19/2019 at 10:27 AM by Fish Killer

There is conspiracy all over the report. Yes, they didn't openly succeed, but it sure as shit wasn't from lack of trying.

Lies to the public.

Happily taking information from an enemy nation.

Blocked attempts at obstruction.

This is anything but vindication.



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I was right.

You have a SERIOUS.....

N O T H I N G B U R G E R !

Ge that through your head COLESLAW!

YOU have NOTHING!

NADA!

ZIP!

BUBKUS!

IQ79 strikes again!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Weeks since the vindication and Trump is still rage tweeting?

If this is such good news, shouldn't he be happy?

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I was right.

sniper sets his sites low as to who he admires. Imagine how he feels about someone that isn't a misogynist pu$$y grabber that only fooled around with one person on his pregnant wife.

I don't have to admire him. I would rather have a President that gets results than an alter-boy who has no f'ing clue what he is doing. I can completely separate the two.

Who a President sleeps with doesn't have any effect on the growth of our economy or our unemployment rate. I'm never going to be spending much time with Presidents so I find it pretty easy to get past the tabloid drama and vote on the real issues.

The difference between me and most Democrats is that I didn't have a problem when Clinton was doing it. Well, I had more of an issue with the fact that she was a young, impressionable, intern than I did that he was having an affair. Most of you had no issue with Clinton and now you are making us laugh at you as you try to find a moral soapbox to get on.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Edited: 04/19/2019 at 11:39 AM by Sniper

Nothing matters but winning is the American ethos.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Says a guy who supports the party who cheated their way into an election and once they lost, they tried to cheat the winner out of it.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

sniper getting in the way back machine to justify his adulation of the misogynist in chief. It's all good. Lets take a ride.

Obama kicked the a$$ out of unemployment. If you compare what Obama did to what Twitler has done on unemployment you mathematically have to pick Obama as the better President.

It's easy using the sniper method!

most corrupt admin ever. and that's saying something. the dotards have become a laughingstock not only here, but across the world.

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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

Good luck with that lie!

It's sad that you cover up and not acknowledge the massive amount of crime and corruption of Obama and his administration.

Dont worry....they are about to all go to jail.

For real.

Obama...worst president EVER!

FACT!

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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"One of the things that the special prosecutor finds is that the Russians were clearly out to help Trump, that the Trump campaign knew about it and welcomed their assistance, and in some cases knew about what they were going to do, what WikiLeaks was going to do in advance. They couldn't prove criminal conspiracy but they certainly proved cooperation," Nadler said on "GMA." "That is very disturbing to cooperate with a foreign power."

dotards=traitors

#dotardtraitors
#trumpiscorrupt
#45worstever

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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

Yeah, trying to defend and overlook the behavior and incidents described in the report is pure assholery. Only trash would do so.

Yup, dotards are mostly trailer trash.


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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

Edited: 04/20/2019 at 07:48 AM by wtf

Deplorables maybe?

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I was right.

Nadler is a lifetime politician (14 years in congress) and a prog commie demoshit so yeah...he will say whatever you want him to!

He's PAID to say whatever you want him to!

FOOL!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

via GIPHY

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I was right.