If it's true, he may have to go. The accuser sounds plausible.


This is the purge apparently. I honestly didn't realize the problem was so bad, I haven't encountered this sort of thing more than once in my professional life.

Who do these guys think they are?



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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

What bothers me is that their are stupid accusations being levied inappropriately in some cases that are muddying the waters concerning real issues.


Listen ladies, just because a guy asks you out once doesn't automatically mean it is a crime or inappropriate if you don't like him. All you are doing is making it harder for the women that are actually getting sexually harassed or violated. And no, a friendly hug is not 'groping' either unless he grabs your ass.

All must be investigated in good faith.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

This is how effing rampant it is....



The Hill

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Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18

Yer using the Repugs excuse about how she's asking for it.

 

WOW.... that's super fuct if true!  There needs to be a WIDESPREAD house cleaning of everyone!

 

* on a sidenote... I'd like to get nasty with Leeann Tweeden, with her consent of course

Well that's not good.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

We're surrounded by assholes.

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What would the typical conservitard response be?

- Set up by political opponents!

- Money grabber!

- Franken "doesn't recall".

- It never happened!

- Goes on a sympathetic tv show and wonders why & how this could be.

- Fellow actors roundly denounce the accuser.

But, alas, he apologized. Unlike the conservitards.

I suggest that you progs worry about what you are going to do. The perverts uncovered recently are dem at something like a 10-1 rate, if not more. By the time this grand outing is done, there will be nary a prog still employed. Of course, that was probably their goal, knowing progs.

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You've got a lot of gall to say that with a sexual predator in the White House.

If we had the same ethics as the GOP we'd be busy attacking Leeann Tweeden right now rather than sharpening knives for Franken.

And don't even get me started on Old Roy the pedophile.




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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Clinton was a sexual predator as well. Outrage.

DC gives swamps a bad name. Swamps are actually very vibrant eco systems . DC is really more like a cess pool, on both sides of the isle. Lets for once all agree to out all these scum bags and not make it a party thing.

Every one who used that hush fund which by all accounts is funded with our tax dollars should be outed and required to reimburse the fund. Then the fund should be terminated. We have a right to know who used our tax dollars and for what.

 

not under Jim McElwain they aren't!!!

Truly disappointing and he deserves everything that will now come his way.

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"Most people would die sooner than think; in fact, they do." - Bertrand Russell


"Morality is doing what is right, regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, regardless of what is right.


If I do not answer you .... nothing personal, I just have you on ignore.

It's BS, Franken and anyone in Congress that has used OUR TAX DOLLARS to cover up sexual abuse needs to be outed and then be put out if it's true.

The rule everyone should follow is "would this be OK if someone did it to my daughter".

The Franken picture is infuriating.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Apparently Washington DC is an avalanche about to fall. There may be closets with dirty laundry opening all over the hill.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Maybe this is exactly what the swamp needed. Then if we could just get some term limits and campaign finance reform, we'd have a trifecta!

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Once they are elected to congress, unless they do it during their tenure there is nothing that can be done to oust them.

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Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18

I saw her on TV a few minutes ago.

Great looking lady that seems to be very cool.

Anyway, Franken needs to pay a price for his misdeeds.

That loser in Alabama needs to leave the race too.

Well, that sucks for Franken (and her). But definitely a dumb move.

I'm not sure why these guys try to force themselves on anyone- being a cool guy will get you far enough- especially being a celebrity on top. and double especially if you can make people laugh. Whatever happened to charm?

Seems extra stupid if your intention is to go into politics.

and then the photo- well that was bonus stupid. Like Gitmo stupid.


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Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

In a way it's just lazy. Be a man and have some game.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

That hurts. It's true. The gators swamp is fun place to play for every team that's not the gators.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Well, the basketball team looks damn good this year - final four good. That is some solace.

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If a woman is groped by a Lib, is that really "sexual"?

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Dora Hates You

Edited: 11/17/2017 at 04:58 AM by dingpatch

I someone posts something like this .... are they really an asshole?



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"Most people would die sooner than think; in fact, they do." - Bertrand Russell


"Morality is doing what is right, regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, regardless of what is right.


If I do not answer you .... nothing personal, I just have you on ignore.

Jesus man, you must be a real fun person to hang with. Can't even take a joke without bunching up your panties (and yes, that last comment would consititute me as an asshole).

When is the last time you have seen a prog with a sense of humor? Don't think that breed exists.

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Rehearsing a kiss multiple times. "One time it was uncomfortable and gross." Never happened again. Sounds like a guy that got rejected and went no further. Unlike an 32 YO guy that cruises for and dates 14 year olds. Big difference. It's so funny though that Roger Stone broke this story before the "victims ever did. Hmmmm

Careful, he might block you than brag about it like he did something groundbreaking and special every time he sees you quoted by someone else. LOL ....he has super thin skin.

I'm throwing the bull shit flag on this.
I could be wrong, but
The photographer tells a different story.
He's not even touching her in the photo.
The kiss was scripted as an unwanted kiss.
Roger Stone posted foreknowledge on Twitter before this story broke.
Franken's personality just doesn't seem to fit the mold.
I watched some of her lengthy interview, and just can't buy it.
She severely lacked sincerity and even plugged her show.

No, I'm just able to press all the right buttons!

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Dora Hates You

I agree with Mike, there needs to be some sensible standard. If you go in for the goodnight kiss after a date and she didn't want it, is that an unwanted sexual advance? Can you even ask a coworker out anymore?



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I was right.

"I did try & fuck her. She was married. I moved on her like a bitch. I just start kissing them. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything - grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." Donald Trump-

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

I don't think you can if you want to be completely safe. I mean it is generally a good policy not to dip your pen in the company ink anyways, but I don't think it would really matter how proper or tasteful your approach to asking a co-worker out is if she decides it is 'unwanted' and reports you to HR.

You can, but it's dangerous and ill-advised for a plethora of reasons. Especially when they say yes! Trust me, I know.

My apologies for the misuse of the word swamp; I spend a great deal of my time in various swamps and wetlands, working to protect them.

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Nothing will happen to Franken. He's a prog. Progs generally get away with this stuff scot free. It is only the Republicans who have to resign.

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censorship is a key tenet of progs

Funny, because parental advisory labels, the fcc and so many other censorship and ideas and policies are right wing. But please, by all means post the proof that progs censor shit. SMH dummies

Just ask JDMan......

i thought you already blocked me?

Also stop saying SMH, you aren't black

Edited: 11/17/2017 at 10:34 AM by johnny

You have to remember johnny...he's a pathological liar.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

You are accusing him of "cultural appropriation" over the use of SMH?

Really?

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Pathological liar!



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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Secretary of State James A. Baker

Bush, FCC, Howard stern

Books: Catcher in the Rye, Harry Potter, Twilight, Darwin Stephen Hawking. Republicans tried to censor all these books

on and on...

Trump tweeted today asking where Franken's hands were in the other pictures?

Maybe he wanted to know if Franken "grabbed her by the p***y"?

People, you can't make this stuff up!

SMH isnt a black thing, lol.

guess youve never read blackpeopletwitter

it is their meme imo

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I don't read any twitter.

But SMH is universal. I see it on facebook all the time.

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It is ubiquitous though. Definitely not a 'black' thing.

EDIT: Really though SMH and SMFH have been around forever.

they use it sooooo much

Deceitful pathological liar!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Deceitful lying scumbag prog!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Poor Al Franken. He's being set up.

It is policy to blame the victim when it doesn't suit your agenda or accusations are against someone on "your" side? This is the second time in a couple of weeks you have done this, the other time being the lawn assault.

Do you even realize how this makes you look?

Seriously dude, you may take pride that your account is tied to your life and business, but you really need to stop being so fucking stupid with the shit you post before it bites you in the ass. Victim blaming a woman who claims to have been violated is a recipe for disaster for you.

Well, "the victim" staged the photo where she is "sleeping" and Franken grabs her. The photographer was told to do it by the "victim," not Franken. It's also been proven they would not be sitting in those types of seats under way with that type of gear. Now if the kiss they were rehearsing, a kiss she agreed to do, got a little awkward that's another story. I can have my doubts, especially when the story was pushed by Roger Stone first, not the "victim." It's BS. I stand by it. Franken 1 accuser that has a really weak story. Trump, Moore and the lot have accusations in the teens and some of them were teens!

As for stupid, we've proven you're in that category.

So how many months did you serve?

It's also funny you're trying to belittle me for having a real identity.

There is no try. Anyone with any shred of common sense knows better than to do what you do. You really should throttle back and think before you post. Of course, I might be wrong in making the assumption that you care. Maybe you are self destructive and simply don't give a shit about your business, your family, and your life.

You aren't being brave. You are being incredibly stupid.

Is it your policy to only blame pols without R next to their names? Where's your condemnation of Trumpski or of Moore?. They have many more victims than Franken, who called for an investigation of himself. THEY threatened to sue their accusers.

I did condemn Moore. I also bag on Trump all the time.

Not sure what you are talking about.

me neither.

He doesn't need to belittle you....if you think an identity is an alias on NSR...

Bwahahahaha!

Fool!



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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

So your answer is yes, you would rather victim blame because it was someone from your side. If it was a setup it will come out in the wash and what you post here will make zero difference in that. However, what you post here could impact your life because you so foolishly tied your account to your business and family. Use your fucking head bro.

Also, just stop with the tired nonsense of questioning people's service that you disagree with. At this point all you are doing is making yourself look like a bitch.

No I don't victim blame. I feel this is a set up due to the way it occurred and came about. Did you read my post about the kiss? That's the only way this is real, only way. Everything else has been debunked. It's suspicious. Unfortunately for the "victim" she was led in the wrong direction by some famous Trump supporters, they leaked the story the wring way, not in her favor. It's just the way that it is. Also, the biggy, 3-4 parts of her story are proven lies. I feel Franken is the victim from the facts presented. Sorry you do not agree. If she had a more solid case like Moore's victims, I'd believe it. But her story is going down fast.

Bro, I've been open on here since 2004. It's a community site. I'll tell this same stuff to you in a bar that I would on here.

It's comments like this that made me call you out to begin with. You got a big rude mouth. Talk about hypocrite. *uses the word bitch then says he is concerned about female victims. hahahaa So rich! Go away miker, you've been found out as a big ol cowardly hypocrite too.

I wasn't calling a woman a bitch. Or was I?

You're consistent that's for sure. You're another one of these cowards that claims they are honorable yet use the words gay, bitch, etc in a derogatory manner. You're BS "Miker." Pathetic at best. Keep hiding in shame....

Well I havent called you gay, but more power to you if you are. I have called you a bitch though, because it is the best word to describe you. If it offends your sensitivities, maybe you can stop acting like one.

Edit: Calling a dude a bitch is sexist now? Stop being a pussy.

Mike....the term pussy used for a man is old....use the new term!

HAPDigishit is a serious MANGINA!



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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

You've accused me an other members of having "crushes on each other" etc. That's using gay as a derogatory, you've done it multiple times. Meanwhile.....

Hey HAPPY, I like the info you bring and your ideas. Don't let them drag you into personal attacks. It what the russians want.

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Sorry but I am not sure why saying a man has a crush on another man is offensive to you. There is nothing derogatory about that at all and you thinking so makes me wonder if you really are progressive. You really should treat that statement the same as you would when someone says a dude has a crush on a chica.

Oh, it was only derogatory to you because I said "you" had a crush on a guy. Sounds like you are either very insecure about your sexuality or you are a homophobe.

No, you said it in a forum where it had no need being brought up. The topic was about race, political or other not related to sexual preference etc. Therefore it was a dig and when you use digs that are homosexual related it is a negative or derogatory whether I like your comment or not. This goes back to the very first thread where you said something derogatory to me because I said, due to facts, you are saying racist things. Miker, try to cover it all you want, you're a homophobe that uses derogatory homophobic comments. Subtle as it is, it's there. Point is you can't handle a civil conversation without bringing up a person's sexual preference or insulting someone.

Well looks like there is another Franken accuser so maybe there is a chance he is guilty. Not sure any of this will mean anything though. Trump has 19 accusers. It didn't change anything there. Abuse messes up a lot more than the victim and the perp. So sad...

Don't get mad because I pointed out that you always coming to his defense made it seem like you had a crush on him. Aside from trolling, you really had no other reasonable reason to get involved in an argument between the two of us. You certainly weren't asked to.

So what if you have a crush on him. I really don't care, but it sure seems like you do. How do you reconcile claiming to be progressive while being such a homophobe?

Again, public forum. I have all the reasons that anyone else on here has to get involved in a conversation. It obviously did bother you because you mentioned the crush thing, as a dig. You just admitted it. You didn't want my involvement. Now you are making accusations again and doubling down on it. You just can't stop yourself hahaha. Still not sure what my sexual preference has to do with any of this. Now you are pushing your belief that I'm a homophobe, as a dig. FYI If you really didn't want anyone butting in on your conversation you would have went private message with it. Miker, give up buddy. You're a hack troll at best.

You fellahs should put each other on ignore.


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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

I did that but as much as he and the other users I would ignore post it really messes up the threads. It's a PITA

HAPDigishit = closet homosexual.



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

go the fuck away

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Make me!

Fake Jew!

Fact!



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

You are a pathetic child emulation FishKiller.
Your creator should be ashamed.


Progressive groups call on Franken to resign amid groping allegations

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Why do the mods not ban this guy? He's blatantly out of control.

Ummm..,.you and that ASSHOLE are allowed to call me a FAKE CHRIATIAN yet I'm not allowed to call him a fake jew when he literally ADMITTED IT in his own words?!?!

Hypocrite much?!?!

ASSHOLE!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

You're just like your buddy dan, a low life loser with nothing better to do than troll and prank call. Like children.

No...I call out FAKE lying POS prog humans like you for your pathological lying...daily!



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Why don't they ban you? You are nearly as bad.

"yet I'm not allowed to call him a fake jew when he literally ADMITTED IT in his own words?!?!"

Show me those words of my own you lying sack of shit.


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill