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RustyTruck

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You can thank the Nazis..

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/ru...tatue-north-carolina/

How ya like that Fish? Southern heritage trampled under progressive feet.

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Hopefully they are caught and prosecuted. Just because the history is dark doesn't mean it should be erased to appease liberal view points. It is sad and extremely shortsighted to so do.


I view the people that want to take down monuments to the history of this country with great pity. We need these reminders of our past to remain where they are to help guide us going forward.
 08/14/2017 07:26 PM
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It is not wise not to keep these statues as a reminder of our racist american legacy. Moving them from a prominent display in front of a govt building however is absoutely necessary though.
Those who forget, or try to erase, the lessons and mistakes of the past. Are doomed to repeat them.
Orlando handled this well by moving them to a cemetery for confederate soldiers

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Originally posted by: miker Hopefully they are caught and prosecuted. Just because the history is dark doesn't mean it should be erased to appease liberal view points. It is sad and extremely shortsighted to so do. I view the people that want to take down monuments to the history of this country with great pity. We need these reminders of our past to remain where they are to help guide us going forward.
Sounds good. Let's put plates on all of these "monuments" that state this statue, bust, painting or whatever represents the mistakes, failures and hatred of our forefathers. We keep this monument as a reminder to those that think their race is superior than others. To show them that such thinking will lead them to fall at the hands of liberty. Something like that. I'm sure someone can make it a bit more poetic and harsh than I can.
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Pull them down, either with state cranes or with the people's ropes.

These are monuments to traitors and criminals. If your history is treason and human trafficking, you deserve to be in a history book, but not looming over the courthouse.

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It's not erasing history. It's a reminder that dipshit ideals will be toppled by the good and just.
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Yep, if I was mayor and the Nazi party was coming to town, those things are gone.

The marble would be smashed to dust and the brass would be turned in statues of Harriet Tubman and Frederick Douglas.



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You can't change the history of this country because it offends you. I too hate the fact that we were once a slave nation, but our history is exactly that. Monuments and memorials need to remain so that we can be reminded of both where we came from and the mistakes we made in the past.

You people make me sick.
 08/15/2017 05:19 AM
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There are a couple of statues in Virginia that sit on ground that was used for slave trading. Do you think they were put there on purpose or was it just an accident?

Many, if not most, of these statues have little to do with the war and those lost in it.

http://www.stltoday.com/opinio...1a7-a5428ea7ef9a.html



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Originally posted by: miker You can't change the history of this country because it offends you. I too hate the fact that we were once a slave nation, but our history is exactly that. Monuments and memorials need to remain so that we can be reminded of both where we came from and the mistakes we made in the past. You people make me sick.

monument  - noun - a statue, building, or other structure erected to commemorate a famous or notable person or event.

Commemorate -  noun- recall and show respect for (someone or something).

Tear the shit down. Dont commerate it. I'd say 98% of those who want the statues and flags to remain are not hoping that we will learn from the past. Thery are lore likely hoping for a return to the past. (well, you know since they still crap outside anyway).

And techinically its the history of the Confederacy. And Although very briefly, a different country altogether--one that fought a war against the United States, and lost. 

Maybe we can round up all the nazis, klan and white supremacists and give them thier own reservation. Make them walk there too. 

 

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Originally posted by: miker

You can't change the history of this country because it offends you. I too hate the fact that we were once a slave nation, but our history is exactly that. Monuments and memorials need to remain so that we can be reminded of both where we came from and the mistakes we made in the past.



You people make me sick.

They belong in museums, not in public squares.


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 08/15/2017 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by: miker . You people make me sick.

 

lol, its mutual.

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Nobody is changing history. In fact, we're facing up to the great American sin and refusing to honor the perpetrators.

I know this is too much to expect from our local Rebs, but imagine having to walk past a monument to a man who took up arms to keep your ancestors in slavery every time you entered a court building. Would you expect fair and equal treatment? Was that monument placed there to remind you that you won't?



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Make America Great Again.

Let's take it back to 1951.

But the people pining for the past seem to be against the tax code of the 1950s. So what of the past do they want back?



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Hap, you mean this flag?

 



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Originally posted by: bus Hap, you mean this flag?

 

Nah, a little less flag and a little more suicide. Cowards: Death of Adolf Hitler
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

You can thank the Nazis..



http://www.pbs.org/newshour/ru...north-carolina/



How ya like that Fish? Southern heritage trampled under progressive feet.


How brave they are, why not use that energy for something good like feed the homeless veterans or clean up after riots or something
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Fucking Nazi scum should clean up after their own damn riot.

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But blm and antifa can just leave their mess that's cool

Statue of lenin in Seattle should get wrecked while we're at it, commies
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Originally posted by: johnny

But blm and antifa can just leave their mess that's cool



Statue of lenin in Seattle should get wrecked while we're at it, commies


You got a nice little chip on your shoulder there, now don't you!

I hate all racism. Lol





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5 less. City of Baltimore employees just legally removed 4 of theirs in the middle of the night. Poof!
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The South shall not rise again.... Baltimore Sun Story
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I don't care if they axe the Lenin Statue.

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Originally posted by: SuperTeeBird I don't care if they axe the Lenin Statue.

Interesting story about that stature. Thanks for noting as I never even knew about it. Not sure why that thing was allowed up in the first place. Museums have a purpose.
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Durham Sheriff Michael D. Andrews says people who pulled down a Confederate statue Monday have been identified and will be arrested on felony charges


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Yup.

Follow the law.

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The City Council should have had that statue removed years ago.  What a joke.

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Statue of lenin in Seattle should get wrecked while we're at it, commies


I'm pretty sure that statue is on private (or donated) property.

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Two more protesters were arrested Wednesday for participating in the toppling of a nearly century-old statue of a Confederate soldier in North Carolina.

Dante Strobino, 35, and Ngoc Loan Tran, 24, were arrested when they attended a court hearing for another woman who was charged Tuesday for climbing a ladder to attach a rope to the bronze soldier.

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Ngoc Loan Tran, 24  (Durham County Sheriff’s Office)

The Durham County Sheriff’s office said Tran and Strobino were charged with two felonies related to inciting and participating in a riot that damaged property.

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The woman who climbed the ladder, Takiyah Thompson, was charged with the same counts a day before. She is a student at historically black North Carolina Central University.

WARNING: ARREST VIDEO CONTAINS PROFANITY

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This framegrab from a video shows Takiyah Thompson, a member of Workers World Party and student at N.C. Central University being arrested by Durham County Sheriff's deputies Tuesday, Aug. 15, 2017 in Durham, N.C. Thompson was arrested in connection with the removal and vandalism of a Confederate statue Monday. Thompson, was arrested after activists held a press conference Tuesday.  (Julia Wall /The News & Observer via AP)Expand / Collapse

Takiyah Thompson, a member of Workers World Party and student at N.C. Central University being arrested by Durham County Sheriff's deputies, Aug. 15, 2017 in Durham, N.C.  (Julia Wall/AP )

The three are affiliated with the Workers World Party, which helped organize the Durham protest in response to deadly violence over the weekend during a white nationalist rally Charlottesville, Virginia.

The North Carolina statue, which was dedicated in 1924, was brought down after Thompson allegedly climbed up and attached a rope. Demonstrators then pulled down it down



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Originally posted by: crankit

Two more protesters were arrested Wednesday for participating in the toppling of a nearly century-old statue of a Confederate soldier in North Carolina.

Dante Strobino, 35, and Ngoc Loan Tran, 24, were arrested when they attended a court hearing for another woman who was charged Tuesday for climbing a ladder to attach a rope to the bronze soldier.

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Ngoc Loan Tran, 24  (Durham County Sheriff's Office)
The Durham County Sheriff's office said Tran and Strobino were charged with two felonies related to inciting and participating in a riot that damaged property.

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Dante Strobino, 35  (Durham County Sheriff's Office)
The woman who climbed the ladder, Takiyah Thompson, was charged with the same counts a day before. She is a student at historically black North Carolina Central University. WARNING: ARREST VIDEO CONTAINS PROFANITY

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Takiyah Thompson, a member of Workers World Party and student at N.C. Central University being arrested by Durham County Sheriff's deputies, Aug. 15, 2017 in Durham, N.C.  (Julia Wall/AP )
The three are affiliated with the Workers World Party, which helped organize the Durham protest in response to deadly violence over the weekend during a white nationalist rally Charlottesville, Virginia.
The North Carolina statue, which was dedicated in 1924, was brought down after Thompson allegedly climbed up and attached a rope. Demonstrators then pulled down it down
Lock em up. Impatience led to vandalism and public disturbance. Not good Padawans.
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Alexander's Column

Antifa v. Alt-Right in Charlottesville — and America

The coming battles between sociopathic Leftists — the socialist "anti-fascists" and the "alternate-right" anarchists.

By Mark Alexander · August 16, 2017   Print

"It is the manners and spirit of a people, which preserve a republic in vigor. A degeneracy in these is a canker which soon eats to the heart of its laws and constitution." —Thomas Jefferson (1787)

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Last weekend, according to NBC Chicago, there were nine people killed and more than 30 wounded in gunfights on the streets of Chicago — and those figures don't include the deaths and injuries from other weapons within that Democrat Party pit.

This is a recurring tragedy in Chicago, and yet it's highly probable that 99.999% of Americans have not heard about those deaths. Indeed, even though most of the murdered were black, who beyond the immediate family and friends of the deceased can name a single unfortunate victim of all the hatred and violence that is commonplace there?

The reason their names and faces are anonymous is that their lives have no value as political fodder for the Demo/media propaganda machine or its so-called "Black Lives Matter" constituency. Those victims are simply tossed onto the pile of 430 homicides in Chicago thus far this year, to the horror of those of us who believe that "all lives matter."

Now consider this: Last weekend, there was one person murdered in Charlottesville, Virginia, by an Ohio man, and the whole world knows the name of that unfortunate victim.

Charlottesville is, as anyone who has been there can attest, a great town. In January, I declined an invitation to attend the Trump inaugural fanfare, opting instead that weekend to meet my son in Charlottesville for a few days visiting friends and re-visiting historic sites.

This area is, in my opinion, the richest historic region in America.

Charlottesville is the site of Declaration of Independence author Thomas Jefferson's Monticello home, which sits just above the town, and his beloved University of Virginia. Just beyond Monticello is James Monroe's Highland home place. To the north is Montpelier, home of our Constitution's author, James Madison. To the west is Lexington, home of Washington and Lee University and Virginia Military Academy — and burial place of Virginia sons Robert E. Lee and Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson. Northeast is George Washington's Mount Vernon, and the home of George Mason. To the east are Richmond, Williamsburg, Jamestown and Yorktown — the final battle site of the American Revolution.

Despite being the epicenter of such extraordinary history, Charlottesville is also lorded over by a disgraceful mayor, Mike Signer, and his Leftist city council — a group of Berkeley wannabes who have led local historical purges of Thomas Jefferson and Robert E. Lee.

It was the planned removal of a small statue of the latter from a city park that was the catalyst for the obscene riots last weekend in this otherwise quiet and idyllic town.

That riot was a clash between sociopathic forces — the antifa, the ironically self-styled "anti-fascists" leading the Leftist intifada against anyone supporting Liberty or any economic system other than socialism, and the alt-right, an anarcho-fascist fringe movement of white supremacists. Notably the alt-right racists had an ACLU-defended permit for their protest hate speech. The antifa socialists and black supremacists showed up in mass without a permit.

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Eight years of racial antagonism by Barack Obama and his radical regime led to mass riots in more than 20 American urban centers, fomented by Leftist groups operating under the banners of Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, antifa, et al. That violence erupted in Oakland, Akron and Pittsburgh in 2009; Santa Cruz, Oakland and Los Angeles in 2010; Oakland in 2011; Chicago and Anaheim in 2012; Brooklyn in 2013; Ferguson and New York City in 2014; Baltimore in 2015; Anaheim, Chicago, St. Paul, Milwaukee, Charlotte, Standing Rock, Oakland and Portland in 2016; and DC, Berkeley, Anaheim, Berkeley part 2, Berkeley part 3, Olympia and Portland in 2017.

While Republicans, Democrats and the mainstream media have correctly tagged one side of the hateful antagonists in Charlottesville as "white supremacists," you won't find any reference by any Democrat, or their Leftmedia propagandists, to the "black supremacists" who were at the center of, or significant participants in, all the aforementioned urban violence.

Nor did a single politico or media outlet rightly tag Micah X, who murdered five police officers in Dallas a year ago, a "black supremacist." He was just the latest manifestation of the Democrats' playbook, which endeavors to foment disunity to rally constituencies. To them, dead police officers are just collateral damage.

Remarkably, the riot in Charlottesville has already received more mass media bandwidth than the attempted mass assassination in June of multiple Republican congressmen in Alexandria, Virginia, by a hate-filled Bernie Sanders supporter.

Perhaps "Virginia is [not] for Lovers" after all? Actually, Virginia is a great state when it's not baiting anarchist haters.

Given the media feeding frenzy inspired by the riots in Charlottesville, allow me to impart a few observations.

First: Regarding President Donald Trump's repeated condemnation of both the racists and the socialists...

Assessing the violence, Charlottesville police chief Al Thomas noted, "Other groups [opposing the alt-right faction] began amassing along the street and in the park. Gradually, the crowd sizes increased along with aggressiveness and hostility of attendees toward one another. ... We did have mutually combating individuals in the crowd."

This mutual violence was evident to everyone present, and it was affirmed in real time by New York Times reporter Hawes Spencer, who observed, "Protesters maced each other, threw water bottles and urine balloons — some of which hit reporters — and generally beat the crap out of each other with flagpoles."

However, Trump should not have dared to suggest that the violence was from both sides of the idiot line. According to the Leftmedia, the antifa groups are just a bunch of wholesome all-American "counter-protesters" defending our country against an epidemic of right-wing (Republican) hatred.

After concurring with the police chief and other observers about "mutually combating individuals," Trump said, "We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides. On many sides. No matter our color, creed, religion or political party we are all Americans first."

But that denunciation wasn't sufficient for the Leftmedia — or for establishment Republicans, who knew full well that the Demo/MSM would label them as "soft on supremacists" because Trump dared to identify both ugly factions.

Sunday, the White House communications staff followed up with: "The President said very strongly in his statement yesterday that he condemns all forms of violence, bigotry and hatred and of course that includes white Supremacists, KKK, neo-Nazi and all extremist groups. He called for national unity and bringing all Americans together."

But even that was insufficient for the Leftmedia. Trump had failed to elevate the standing of the conflict to the level that best serves the Demo/MSM agenda and the need to cash in on the chaos for ad revenue and political contributions.

So Trump on Monday called a press confab and repeatedly condemned the racists in what was to be a unifying speech.

But that was too little too late for the Leftmedia.

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On Tuesday, in a contentious confrontation with MSM agitators, Trump dared again to suggest that the violence was mutual: "You had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent, and nobody wants to say that. But I'll say it right now: I think there is blame on both sides and I don't have a doubt about it and you [reporters] don't have a doubt about it either."

He also condemned the removal of historic markers, saying, "This week it's Robert E. Lee. I notice that Stonewall Jackson's [statue is] coming down. I wonder, is George Washington next week, and is it Thomas Jefferson the week after? You really do have to ask yourself, when does it stop?"

Of the Leftmedia "outrage" over Trump's responses, Vice President Mike Pence said, "I take issue with the fact that many in the media ... have spent an awful lot of time focusing on what the president said and criticisms of what the president said, instead of criticizing those who brought that hatred and violence to the streets of Charlottesville, Virginia." He is correct.

Second: The Bannon problem...

While I believe Trump's response to the violence was measured — if very Trumpian — I also believe he has a problem on his staff by the name of Steve Bannon, chairman of his 2016 campaign and now his chief strategist.

Here's the problem.

Jason Kessler is the white supremacist organizer of the "Unite the Right" protest in Charlottesville. He's a University of Virginia graduate who lists on his résumé his last job as being a writer for "Daily Caller," an online "conservative" news website co-founded in 2010 by Fox News host Tucker Carlson. For the record, despite the fact that I like Carlson's commentary, our staff considers Daily Caller a well-funded titillation tabloid, and for that reason, it undermines the standing of genuine grassroots conservative publications. Indeed, as of this week, Daily Caller has scrubbed the commentary it hosted from Kessler.

Kessler's colleague, Massachusetts native Richard Spencer, also a UVA graduate, was agitating the hatefest in Charlottesville.

Spencer is the founder of AlternativeRight.com, the alt-right homepage espousing, among other things, white supremacist views. After Trump's election, Spencer led an alt-right conference group with "Hail Trump, hail our people, hail victory!" chants. When Trump tapped Bannon to be a senior advisor, Spencer claimed he was in "the best possible position" to influence policy.

That brings me to Bannon himself, who took control of Breitbart News in 2012 after the death of Andrew Breitbart. Bannon did to Andrew's popular website what Jeff Bezos is doing to the once-respectable Washington Post — adulterating its content to comport with extremist political views.

Breitbart News described Spencer's website as the "center of alt-right thought," and in 2016, Bannon declared Breitbart "the platform for the alt-right." Spencer concurred, noting that Breitbart "has acted as a 'gateway' to alt-right ideas and writers."

This, of course, doesn't make Bannon or Trump "white supremacists." Bannon, like Trump, has a propensity for shooting from the hip and saying stupid stuff. And most Trump supporters would have no idea what the "alt-right" is because, in fact, it's nothing more than a minuscule fringe political identity group. But the Leftmedia would have you believe it's the very foundation of the Republican Party.

In November 2016, Trump responded to questions about Bannon's appointment, saying, "I've known Steve Bannon a long time. If I thought he was a racist, or alt-right ... I wouldn't even think about hiring him."

But can you detect the problem here?

All you need to know about Bannon is that he does not have enough humility, in the interest of Trump's agenda, to resign.

Third: Regarding the Orwellian trend of "historical cleansing" underway by Leftists...

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Quoting from text buried in Crankit's copy/paste.

That brings me to Bannon himself, who took control of Breitbart News in 2012 after the death of Andrew Breitbart. Bannon did to Andrew's popular website what Jeff Bezos is doing to the once-respectable Washington Post - adulterating its content to comport with extremist political views.

Breitbart News described Spencer's website as the "center of alt-right thought," and in 2016, Bannon declared Breitbart "the platform for the alt-right." Spencer concurred, noting that Breitbart "has acted as a 'gateway' to alt-right ideas and writers."

This, of course, doesn't make Bannon or Trump "white supremacists." Bannon, like Trump, has a propensity for shooting from the hip and saying stupid stuff. And most Trump supporters would have no idea what the "alt-right" is because, in fact, it's nothing more than a minuscule fringe political identity group. But the Leftmedia would have you believe it's the very foundation of the Republican Party.

So kick Bannon out of the White House, denounce Breitbart news, and reject endorsements from the likes of Alex Jones/Infowars.

You give those pigs rim jobs for their votes then don't be surprised about people complaining about your stench.

 



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