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Day one - pretty rocky start, I thought it might all be falling apart; quite the shit show early. Poor speakers couldn't focus, disruptions, awkward moments, finally Sarah Silverman telling them "you're being ridiculous".

But then came a parade of stars. Michele killed it, I wish I could vote for her this election. Obama-Warren-Sanders saved the day.

I was and still am a Bernie supporter, but I've had enough with these spoiled kids. Let them vote for Trump and F themselves over if they must.

Perhaps after they have a chance to roll call vote (tonight I think), they will put on their big girl panties and get down to the business to stopping the rise of neo-fascism in the USA.

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Karma is a bitch
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Nah, it's just the dem party. The "left" always fights itself. The kids are used to getting what they want, they have no idea that these struggles go on for generations. The race is not for the swift, but for those who endure it.


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Bernie closed with a flair for the dramatic. Brought down the house. Madame President is in the game.

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Keep posting that dumb speech FK, it's only digging a deeper hole.


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The DNC seems to be working out well for them (Trump that is)....
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too soon for any DNC effect to show.

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It was a brilliant roll call and nomination, good stuff last night. Oh, and news that trump is calling for Russian Watergate, that should help him.

Let's see what the president has to say tonight.

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Trump's bump has faded and the Dem bump hasn't kicked in.


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Last night was powerful, I think they should get a nice bump if Hillary does a good job tonight.

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck Last night was powerful, I think they should get a nice bump if Hillary does a good job tonight.

you're being fed a bunch of BS, fortunately it appears that people are starting to wake up. You'll get there soon.....

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/07/28/protests-arrests-barricades-democratic-national-convention-wells-fargo-arena/87648836/

Or choose your source:

https://www.google.com/#q=protests+outside+dnc&tbm=nws

May I remind you Hillary supporters, she is only the nominee because the election was rigged. How you can be cool with this really blows my mind. Again, fortunately, it appears that there are a lot of people that are starting to wake up......

 

 

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Originally posted by: obx2

 

May I remind you Hillary supporters, she is only the nominee because the election was rigged. How you can be cool with this really blows my mind. Again, fortunately, it appears that there are a lot of people that are starting to wake up......

 

 

 

 

 

Hillary did get more votes.

The Democratic party did favor one of their own. Big surprise. Bernie has been an independent forever and only registered as a Democrat for this primary. Now he is back to independent. He did manage to force the Democrats to alter their platform to include some of his planks. The same cannot be said of Donald. He is playing the outsider but the Republican National Party Platform looks the most like the Texas Republican Party Platform that it has in my entire lifetime.

Why do you care if the Democrats elbowed the outsider? You support none of Bernie's policy positions and participated in smearing Bernie as a Chavez wannabe.



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Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: obx2

 

 

 

May I remind you Hillary supporters, she is only the nominee because the election was rigged. How you can be cool with this really blows my mind. Again, fortunately, it appears that there are a lot of people that are starting to wake up......

 

 

 

   

 

   

 

 

Hillary did get more votes.

 

The Democratic party did favor one of their own. Big surprise. Bernie has been an independent forever and only registered as a Democrat for this primary. Now he is back to independent. He did manage to force the Democrats to alter their platform to include some of his planks. The same cannot be said of Donald. He is playing the outsider but the Republican National Party Platform looks the most like the Texas Republican Party Platform that it has in my entire lifetime.

 

Why do you care if the Democrats elbowed the outsider? You support none of Bernie's policy positions and participated in smearing Bernie as a Chavez wannabe.

 

Tell me, Scom, if "nothing happened" why did Wasserman have to step down? Also, is it the party elite that choose the candidate, or is it supposed to be the registered members of the party who choose? I'm pretty sure its supposed to be "We the People" and not "We the Elite"

I care when an election is rigged, its obvious to those who are willing to see, and the party/candidate gets away with it without any accountability. Irregardless of the party. Are you cool with the DNC colluding with Hillary to win? Do you refuse to accept that as fact?  What makes you think she won't also rig the general election? Are you cool with it only cause she's on your team?

I seriously can't believe you guys still think you have any ground to stand on when you criticize Trump, whilst you cheer for one of the most corrupt, unaccountable politicians of my lifetime, who litterealy rigged the primary election.

You are litteraly cheering for unfettered corruption, much less trying to rationalize it!  What the fuck is wrong with you guys????

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Originally posted by: obx2   What makes you think she won't also rig the general election?

Because the Democrats don't write the rules for the general election.

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I'm still laughing at dingpatch's GIF. Hillary's face is so serious.
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"Rigged" is such a dumb trumpy word.
Hillary got more votes.




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Originally posted by: WG "Rigged" is such a dumb trumpy word. Hillary got more votes.

I've got a bridge to sell you.....WG

fast forward to 2:30min. Even MSNBC was starting to ask the right questions...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGeyhgp2N8A

At some point, its got to be painful to be so freaking blind....

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Originally posted by: WG "Rigged" is such a dumb trumpy word. Hillary got more votes.

A rigged election does tend to give more votes to the candidate that does the rigging.



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All she needs to do is not F up tonight. The Democrats clearly hold the high ground in a tight race that might not be the battle of good vs. Evil, but it very well may be the battle of good enough vs. Evil.

The global economy and the reputation of the United States in the world are in the balance. If you guys can't see that, damn, bless your hearts.

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck All she needs to do is not F up tonight. The Democrats clearly hold the high ground....

HOLD THE HIGH GROUND?!?!?!?! WTF? They rigged the election against the wishes/wants of the voters!?

Who gives a fuck about global economy and reputation when the very fabric of democracy is being shredded by your beloved party.

My God, man.......really, the fuck? Its baffling how anyone could still support this party/candidate.....

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I really liked what Tim Kaine and Obama had to say last night, and how they said it.

I'm a policy voter and in agreement with at least 90% of the policies and objectives of the democrat party.

I also appreciate how Hillary has it detailed on her website, not only her goals, but how she will get it done. I can see that Sanders had an influence in shaping some of those objectives too. www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

The biggest criticism I hold against the Clintons is their ties to wealthy interests, but at the same time, she is the most likely candidate to accomplish ethics, campaign finance, taxes, and Wall Street reforms. She knows how to get things done. Trump claims he knows how to game the system, but he has a lot to learn to catch up to the Clintons. Most importantly, I believe she is in it for the right reasons, and not just herself.





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she is the most likely candidate to accomplish ethics, campaign finance, taxes, and Wall Street reforms. She knows how to get things done. Trump claims he knows how to game the system, but he has a lot to learn to catch up to the Clintons. Most importantly, I believe she is in it for the right reasons, and not just herself.

It is stunning that someone could actually believe that about Clinton. Hell, I can rebut that whole bit of propaganda with one, indisputable fact: she got $600,000 a pop for speeches to Goldman Sachs.



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Originally posted by: tpapablo

she is the most likely candidate to accomplish ethics, campaign finance, taxes, and Wall Street reforms. She knows how to get things done. Trump claims he knows how to game the system, but he has a lot to learn to catch up to the Clintons. Most importantly, I believe she is in it for the right reasons, and not just herself.




It is stunning that someone could actually believe that about Clinton. Hell, I can rebut that whole bit of propaganda with one, indisputable fact: she got $600,000 a pop for speeches to Goldman Sachs.



Of course, that's how you play the game. It's rigged in Wall Street's and K Street's favor.
But seems to me that democrats are most likely to implement reforms to chip away at that.


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Originally posted by: tpapablo

one indisputable fact: she got $600,000 a pop for speeches to Goldman Sachs.



Yep that's all right out there.
In the tax returns she released to the public.


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What about the clinton foundation financial records?



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Originally posted by: crankit

What about the clinton foundation financial records?



You mean these?

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/about/annual-financial-reports



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day 3- ...but building walls is racist....


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Those people are assholes.

But not too many.

"A total of 69 tickets had been issued as of Wednesday afternoon, including 10 citations for disorderly conduct related to a sit-in downtown in protest of the convention."

But there were thousands of them inside the hall in Cleveland.


"After arguing with the protesters who burned the red and black American flag, the peaceful protesters led a singing march up and down Broad Street before sitting down and holding hands.

"They burn flags. We burn sage," said a protester with a megaphone as others sat down on Broad Street Wednesday night."

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

she is the most likely candidate to accomplish ethics, campaign finance, taxes, and Wall Street reforms. She knows how to get things done. Trump claims he knows how to game the system, but he has a lot to learn to catch up to the Clintons. Most importantly, I believe she is in it for the right reasons, and not just herself.



It is stunning that someone could actually believe that about Clinton. Hell, I can rebut that whole bit of propaganda with one, indisputable fact: she got $600,000 a pop for speeches to Goldman Sachs.


So what. GS probably made that much in the amount of time it took me to type this - likely more. So seems reasonable to me. She is a successful woman. Good for her taking advantage of our capitalistic system.



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I see fine.
Rigged is still a stupid Trumpy word.

Of course the DNC favored Hillary, the Democratic candidate over the insurgent socialist.
DWS lost her job over being not discreet enough about it.
I know way more about the details of this from the inside.
There will be more leaks, it won't matter.

Of course the Super Delegates are a huge establishment huge power play, designed to thwart insurgencies like Bernie.
Of course I supported Bernie down to the end, and would again.

Nobody rigged any votes.
Nobody in our party tries to stop people from voting
That's an R thing.

Hillary got more, It wasn't really even that close.
She will in Nov too.

And I really don't care a bit what people like you who aren't even Democrats think about any of it.
Not your party.
Deal with the dysfunction of your own.


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I might not be a Dem, but I do like to fight ignorance.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3207171/election-fraud-study-points-to-rigged-democratic-primary-against-bernie-sanders-video/

Rigged is a Trump word? Sanders used that word in about every speech he gave.



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I didn't say "Trump word" I said" Trumpy word"
Pay attention.

"Well, I've been very touched by Donald Trump's love for me. But John, you know, with all due respect, I think there may be some aspect of this which he thinks will advantage himself,"

"I wouldn't use the word 'rigged,' because we knew what the rules were," Sanders said on "Face the Nation." "But what is really dumb is that you have closed primaries, like in New York State, where 3 million people who were Democrats or Republicans could not participate. Where you have a situation where over 400 superdelegates came on board Clinton's campaign before anybody else was in the race, eight months before the first vote was cast.

That's not rigged. I think it's just a dumb process, which has certainly disadvantaged our campaign."
- Bernie Sanders

Not rigged, just dumb

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Nobody's buying your faux outrage.

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It's really very simple, Hillary got more votes in the primary, and she's the best candidate in November in spite of her flaws.

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Wow. Just amazing finish. The democrats hit it out of the park. They out republicaned the republicans.

Buried them deep.

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck Wow. Just amazing finish. The democrats hit it out of the park. They out republicaned the republicans. Buried them deep.

Honest question, how can you look yourself in the mirror, and cheer for the very party that subverted the democratic process, (again, this is not my opinion but proven fact), and still call yourself an American?

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Originally posted by: obx2

 

Honest question, how can you look yourself in the mirror, and cheer for the very party that subverted the democratic process, (again, this is not my opinion but proven fact), and still call yourself an American?

 

Subverting the "democratic process" would be a government altering open elections such as various voter suppression techniques. The primary is a within-party battle. Unless they committed outright voter fraud then they didn't "subvert the Democratic process". If people don't like the machinations of the party that they are in then they can leave the party or change the party. A better option if they ultimately support the positions of the party is to become active in the party and work on structure from the inside out and bottom up. Getting all hot and bothered for a single national election every 4 years is pointless and stupid unless you can muster the support that Bernie did. He made his point. We will see if that pushes the Democrats in the right direction.

And no matter how mad a Democrat or any other non-rightwing person is at how the Democrats select their candidate, that is absolutely no reason to support Trump and a Republican Party platform that looks like it was written by the 1964 John Birch society. 

Trump promises to protect us from all the rapists and murderers coming from Mexico. How many millions of illegals came here during the Bush and Obama years? Did the crime rate go up proportionally? No? Then maybe security and immigration reform are needed but do not actually need to be the top "build a wall" focus of the election.

What is Trump actually going to do about trade imbalances?

What is his actual plan for anything?



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Nothing was rigged. All primaries were run above board all the votes were counted. Hillary won. Wasserman resigned because it was embarrassing to see how the inner cirlce were favoring Hillary. THAT IS THE COMMITTEES JOB TO GET THE MOST ELECTABLE CANDIDATE NOMINATED. They did nothing illegal by favoring the most electable candidate. Get off it and back to the emails or whatever else minutia you want to blow out of proportion.

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Originally posted by: daner Nothing was rigged. All primaries were run above board all the votes were counted. Hillary won. Wasserman resigned because it was embarrassing to see how the inner cirlce were favoring Hillary. THAT IS THE COMMITTEES JOB TO GET THE MOST ELECTABLE CANDIDATE NOMINATED. They did nothing illegal by favoring the most electable candidate. Get off it and back to the emails or whatever else minutia you want to blow out of proportion.

I guess it depends on the definition of "rigged" is, huh? (Nice play out of the dem play book. Rememebr ol Billyboy's "depends on the definition of "it"?)

Facts:

"In its recent leak of 20,000 DNC emails from January 2015 to May 2016, DNC staff discuss how to deal with Bernie Sanders’ popularity as a challenge to Clinton’s candidacy. Instead of treating Sanders as a viable candidate for the Democratic ticket, the DNC worked against him and his campaign to ensure Clinton received the nomination." Is that not rigging?

How about:

Over the past several weeks, Guccifer 2.0 released several internal memos showing DNC staff strategizing to make Clinton the presidential nominee—as early as March 2015.

How is this example/experience?

My daughter is a school psychologist in Richmond’s local school system. Here is her experience yesterday in the California Primary Election:

“Never have I felt so much that my vote doesn’t count!

My Richmond, CA polling place at 1340 Marina Way South was an absolute mess.

1.The location was different from every other time I’ve voted out here and Google initially mapped me to an abandoned patch of dirt next to a park.

2. After I eventually figured out how to get there, myself and few other people waited in the wrong line for about 10-15 minutes, because the signs weren’t appropriately marked.

3. Finally I get to the table with ballots and I’m told they ran out of Democratic ballots.

4. NONE of the people working there with the exception of 1 woman, that I don’t think even worked there (!) could explain to me how the stupid NXD ballot process works and even then I was still confused.

5. I had to ASK for the other ballot with the prop measures and senate vote because the guy forgot to give it to me!

6. After I finished filling out my ballots, a woman takes my ballot with the prop measures and slides it in the machine, then LOOKS at my presidential ballot vote and stuffs it in a box that is filled to the brim with other provisional ballots. I asked her when it would be counted and she said in a few weeks.

7. Before I even get home the opposing candidate has been proclaimed winner.

 

Go ahead, read, research, educate yourselves. The information is out there, if your willing to pull your head out of the sand:

http://www.bing.com/news/search?q=california+primary+2016&FORM=HDRSC6

 

Final question, if it "IS THE COMMITTEES JOB TO GET THE MOST ELECTABLE CANDIDATE NOMINATED?" Then way did they work to silence the most popular candidate? Its quite obvious (or should be at least), that Bernine garnered more support than Killary, and some could even argue more so over Trump. So, again, why silence him if thats there main concern? Could it be because of....wait for it....corruption?!?!?! Nah......

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Wow. Just amazing finish. The democrats hit it out of the park. They out republicaned the republicans.

Buried them deep.



Yes I suppose so, if you drank the Kool-Aid offered, but if you know the facts - -

AP FACT CHECK: Misfires in Hillary Clinton's speech perhaps you will not be so misguided and misinformed.








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Was that fact check supposed to make Clinton look bad?

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Originally posted by: obx2 .

 

How is this example/experience?

 

My daughter is a school psychologist in Richmond’s local school system. Here is her experience yesterday in the California Primary Election:

 

Who's daughter? I can't find the original source. Running that phrase into bing gets me a bunch of hits that are just repeating the story without any detail or investigation. Was it "Rick Sterling" the name attached to the article that is simply reposted verbatim in multiple locations?

 Who was running that election precinct? The Democratic primary wasn't the only voting going on. So who were the city and county election officials and do you have evidence that they were deliberately stopping Democrats from voting? If they were trying to cause an undervote, did they have the district by disctrict data and control to only target Bernie heavy districts?



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Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: obx2 .

 

 

 

How is this example/experience?

 

 

 

My daughter is a school psychologist in Richmond’s local school system. Here is her experience yesterday in the California Primary Election:

 

 

 

 

Who's daughter? I can't find the original source. Running that phrase into bing gets me a bunch of hits that are just repeating the story without any detail or investigation. Was it "Rick Sterling" the name attached to the article that is simply reposted verbatim in multiple locations?

 

 Who was running that election precinct? The Democratic primary wasn't the only voting going on. So who were the city and county election officials and do you have evidence that they were deliberately stopping Democrats from voting? If they were trying to cause an undervote, did they have the district by disctrict data and control to only target Bernie heavy districts?

 

 

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Originally posted by: obx2
Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: obx2 .

 

 

 

   

 

How is this example/experience?

 

 

 

   

 

My daughter is a school psychologist in Richmond’s local school system. Here is her experience yesterday in the California Primary Election:

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

Who's daughter? I can't find the original source. Running that phrase into bing gets me a bunch of hits that are just repeating the story without any detail or investigation. Was it "Rick Sterling" the name attached to the article that is simply reposted verbatim in multiple locations?

 

 

 

 Who was running that election precinct? The Democratic primary wasn't the only voting going on. So who were the city and county election officials and do you have evidence that they were deliberately stopping Democrats from voting? If they were trying to cause an undervote, did they have the district by disctrict data and control to only target Bernie heavy districts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I suppose that means that you cannot answer the questions.

Proving time and time again that for you "research" consists of unquestioningly believing any story that fits the narrative in your head.



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2 conventions down and what questions have been answered? The biggest question was will the Bernie supporters vote for Clinton, will the Cruz supporters vote for Drumpt?


My guess is that there is not going to be much party line crossing. To repeat a tired phrase: " A woman voting for drumpt is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders. Drumpt will get the stupid white men vote. ( guess you could figure that out from reading a few posts on this here 2L surf forum. )

For me it just comes down to evil. I think George W was the worst shithook of a president ever. But in a W v. Drumfpt match up, I'm down with the bushwacker.

If its Hitler v. Drumpt. That is the tough one. Their politics , methods and platforms are so similar.

In a coin flip I'll take der fuher. Adolph of course.

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Below is what Bill Clinton thought about the most important moment in his loving wife's life:



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Originally posted by: obx2

Final question, if it "IS THE COMMITTEES JOB TO GET THE MOST ELECTABLE CANDIDATE NOMINATED?" Then way did they work to silence the most popular candidate? Its quite obvious (or should be at least), that Bernine garnered more support than Killary, and some could even argue more so over Trump. So, again, why silence him if thats there main concern? Could it be because of....wait for it....corruption?!?!?! Nah......

 

You and your buddies on here repeatedly denigrated Bernie for being a socialist. Now you are telling us that Bernie was more popular than Trump or Clinton and would have been more "electable" in a general election than Hillary in spite of his being to the left of the Democratic party in general?

 

So you've accused the DNC of vote fraud in that Richmond California narrative. Answer my questions above about that story and prove the case. If the whole system is rigged, how come the Republicans weren't able to disappear Trump votes in the same way? Maybe Trump is part of the master plan and that is why the media created him by giving him more free publicity than any candidate in history. Or maybe Trump is just a sympton of the idiocracy of unthinking celebrity worship that is plaguing this country.

 



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Originally posted by: daner Nothing was rigged. All primaries were run above board all the votes were counted. Hillary won. Wasserman resigned because it was embarrassing to see how the inner cirlce were favoring Hillary. THAT IS THE COMMITTEES JOB TO GET THE MOST ELECTABLE CANDIDATE NOMINATED. They did nothing illegal by favoring the most electable candidate. Get off it and back to the emails or whatever else minutia you want to blow out of proportion.


You cannot tell me that the days and times they held the Dem debates was not spoken about by Hilldog and the DNC. They did everything but hold the debates opposite the Super Bowl. They wanted to keep people from hearing Bernie and Hillary. They understand that when Hillary has to answer questions, that she has not been briefed on prior to being asked, that her numbers go down. Why don't you think she has done a press conference in over a year? Didn't she have to cut the last one short? She can't speak off the cuff without seriously damaging herself. They also didn't want people going over to the Bernie camp.

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Originally posted by: Sniper

Originally posted by: daner

Nothing was rigged. All primaries were run above board all the votes were counted. Hillary won. Wasserman resigned because it was embarrassing to see how the inner cirlce were favoring Hillary. THAT IS THE COMMITTEES JOB TO GET THE MOST ELECTABLE CANDIDATE NOMINATED. They did nothing illegal by favoring the most electable candidate. Get off it and back to the emails or whatever else minutia you want to blow out of proportion.





You cannot tell me that the days and times they held the Dem debates was not spoken about by Hilldog and the DNC. They did everything but hold the debates opposite the Super Bowl. They wanted to keep people from hearing Bernie and Hillary. They understand that when Hillary has to answer questions, that she has not been briefed on prior to being asked, that her numbers go down. Why don't you think she has done a press conference in over a year? Didn't she have to cut the last one short? She can't speak off the cuff without seriously damaging herself. They also didn't want people going over to the Bernie camp.


I guess when she was Sec of State nobody tried to debate any policy with her. Right.

"that she has not been briefed on"? How would anyone know all they need to know without being briefed??? Now I know why you like Trump who has obviously not been properly briefed on any policy or taught how to not step in it yet.



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"Final question, if it "IS THE COMMITTEES JOB TO GET THE MOST ELECTABLE CANDIDATE NOMINATED?" Then way did they work to silence the most popular candidate? Its quite obvious (or should be at least), that Bernine garnered more support than Killary, and some could even argue more so over Trump. So, again, why silence him if thats there main concern? Could it be because of....wait for it....corruption?!?!?! Nah......"

Quite simple. In the DNCs opinion and pretty much anybody else, Hillary was the most electable. Perhaps you don't agree. How do you expect the DNC to get Hillary to the nomination without favoring her? That is their job.

And how does a screwed up polling station favor Hillary?

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Obie you don't get it I think. The party can select a ham sandwich to run for president. The primary is a ritual to select delayed, who then make the choice. There is no requirement that it be democratic, it's by custom.

She wasn't my first choice but she's far and away better qualified than that vulgar used car salesman.

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The votes of the citizens were tabulated and recorded so the primary was not rigged in that sense.

Debbie Blabbermouth Shultz did try to work the primary scheduling, debates, etc to favor Hillary Clinton.

The same way the GOP tries to implement voting restrictions for their benefit.
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I loved hearing Bill Clinton describe the romance novel that is he and Hillary's relationship.

I couldn't get enough of his description of their long walks or their trips to the ice cream parlor.

The way he describes her, she is a real diamond in the rough. She definitely does not sound like someone who anyone would risk their relationship with, by sleeping with 10....20.....30.....?....women outside of their relationship.

Bill must have some amazing time management skills. I have no idea how he held down those jobs, maintained a semi-normal home environment, and still found time to service all those whores.

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Like JFK and others, it didn't stop him from being a great President.
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Originally posted by: theglide Like JFK and others, it didn't stop him from being a great President.


Please don't compare the two.

JFK was banging movie stars.

Bill Clinton is a sexual predator who uses his power to prey on those that he feel are below himself. Bill Clinton would have never tried the shit he did on anyone who felt they were worth something.

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It is an interesting double standard though. Anyone think The Donald has ever had an affair or "serviced" whores? For me, I don't care and it doesn't bother me when two consenting adults hook up. Married or not. But, I'm also not a Christian Coalition Fundamentalist either.

I'm sure sniper's slate is clean and is able to throw stones without being a hypocrite. Just guessing he or she is probably a saint. LOL.

I think this week's Dem Convention did a pretty good job of displaying the differences between the two parties. Katy Perry swayed my vote...LOL....

Now the general election silly season starts. When are the debates? That should be a riot.

For myself, I've been bored with the political battles lately and have been digesting preseason football stuff. Can't wait for football season to kick in to get people's attention of the political theater currently taking place. But, whatever rocks your boat. Go Hillary, Go Trump! Should be some great political drama into November for those who are entertained by it.

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Originally posted by: Central Floridave It is an interesting double standard though. Anyone think The Donald has ever had an affair or "serviced" whores? For me, I don't care and it doesn't bother me when two consenting adults hook up. Married or not. But, I'm also not a Christian Coalition Fundamentalist either. I'm sure sniper's slate is clean and is able to throw stones without being a hypocrite. Just guessing he or she is probably a saint. LOL. I think this week's Dem Convention did a pretty good job of displaying the differences between the two parties. Katy Perry swayed my vote...LOL.... Now the general election silly season starts. When are the debates? That should be a riot. For myself, I've been bored with the political battles lately and have been digesting preseason football stuff. Can't wait for football season to kick in to get people's attention of the political theater currently taking place. But, whatever rocks your boat. Go Hillary, Go Trump! Should be some great political drama into November for those who are entertained by it.


Would you feel the same way if one of those "consenting adults" was your daughter and she was a 21 year old, unpaid, intern working at the White House? You cool with that?

As far as my "slate" goes, I go to sleep each and every night just fine, knowing that I've treated the women in my life with respect and honesty.

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I think Hillary will see a nice bump after that performance. They did just about everything right.

Khizr Khan was particularly compelling in his indictment of trump.

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"every night just fine, knowing that I've treated the women in my life with respect and honesty. "

Me as well. Just celebrated 23 years of marriage and still happy.

However, I understand a lot of other's may not be or are more liberal to consensual sex. It doesn't bother me at all. I just find it hypocritical to criticize the Clinton's on their infidelity and not include Trump's. In your opinion, is it more noble to "Stick By Your Man" and keep the marriage together thru the thick-n-thin or, divorce and remarry the next one. Curious enough Melania and The Donald's age difference is 24 years. Again, that doesn't bother me. It sounds like it don't you either. Which is cool. Rock on dude. Throw stones since you have a clean slate!
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Just out of shit-n-grins I googled Trump's history on marriage. Don't know if it is true or not but Trump's slate is not clean either. In my opinion, if Trump uses Bill Clinton infidelity as a snipe against Hillary, it would be extremely hypocritical. AND, if anyone else does but doesn't see that Trump is more than likely worse is just plane blind to their political parties misgivings.

google found this (true or not, don't know):

Trump married his first wife, Ivana Zelnickova, in 1977. The couple had three children together but the relationship came to a bitter end when Zelnickova caught Trump - in true sugar daddy style - having an affair with a much younger woman, Marla Maples.

About a year after Trump's messy divorce was finalized, he married his younger mistress, in spite of the highly publicized scandal and their 17-year age difference. That same year, Maples gave birth to their daughter, but even that wasn't enough to sustain the relationship and they divorced six years later.

In the years following his second divorce, Trump was rumored to have been hooking up with a slew of younger women, until he finally settled down again in 2005 with model Melania Knauss. At the time of their wedding, Trump was 58 and Knauss was only 34.

http://www.earnthenecklace.com...-year-age-difference/


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He paid off one wife to silence her after she accused him of rape and sexual assault, 1992.
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Some say Trump likes fat little boys.

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Funny but Rush Limbaugh nailed it, if she was such a great catch; why would he wnat to cheat on her?

Not just once, this guy was serial
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Originally posted by: cheaterfiveo

Funny but Rush Limbaugh nailed it, if she was such a great catch; why would he wnat to cheat on her?

Not just once, this guy was serial


Yeah, Marla Maples may as well have "door mat" as a tramp stamp.



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But Trump didn't portray the shit show Billy bob did
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You seriously think it's a big deal that the president got a blow job?

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You seriously don't think they are serial liars?
Suppose he shouldn't have lied under oath
How many accusations of sexual predatory behavior does he have to commit before a pattern develops in your thought process?
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Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton has opened a significant lead over Republican nominee Donald Trump, now leading him by 15 points, according to a new online nationwide survey conducted on Friday, July 29th by RABA Research, a bipartisan polling firm.

Among likely voters, Clinton garners 46% support to Trump's 31%. Libertarian Gary Johnson now captures 7% of the vote, while Jill Stein sits at 2%.

A RABA Research poll conducted the day after the Republican convention showed a tighter race, with Clinton at 39% and Trump at 34%. Johnson was at 8% in that survey, while Stein found 3% support.

"After closing the gap to single digits last week, Trump's post-convention bounce has disappeared," said RABA Research's John Del Cecato, a Democratic partner with the firm. "While Trump continues to struggle to consolidate support within his own party, Clinton has a sizable lead among independents, and is even peeling off a small slice of Republican voters."

In related news:

"Donald Trump gave his first hint last night that he might try to get out of the Fall presidential debates."


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Romney is worried a trump presidency would promote "trickle down racism".

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thats foolishness, more racism coming from the so called minority side than from everyday working taxpayers
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Just watched Hillary's acceptance speech. Really hit on all cylinders!

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"more racism coming from the so called minority side than from everyday working taxpayers."

Seriously, you can't see how very fucking racist that statement is?

wanna try again?

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Originally posted by: WG

"more racism coming from the so called minority side than from everyday working taxpayers."



Seriously, you can't see how very fucking racist that statement is?



wanna try again?


Read slower you might get it einstein, you are so smrt
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Yeah cheat, you're a real victim. Fight the power. Rebel against the racist minorities who are oppressing you.

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put your head back in the sand and parrot msnbc, your drugs are in the mail
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"Minorities vs everyday working taxpayers."

Honestly, you can't see the racism in that?

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