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Topic Summary: can we the citizens of cape canaveral legally secede from the state of florida?
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silentsurfer12

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or can we just vote to annex orlando into its own seperate city state?

Maybe we should even consider a license plate scanner that will warn everyone of possible orlando terrorists?

 07/18/2014 08:38 PM
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big rick

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Maybe you can go to the several other 'don't let
those inlanders into our part of the state'
threads and cry about it there.

GET OVER IT ALREADY!

So lets see how this thread turns out....

you bitch cause you got your feelings hurt by
someone that was from orlando

someone from orlando post that they can surf
better than you

then there's a story of someone that used to live
beach side but now lives inland because there's no
job that pays what he/she gets paid here

someone else post about how the inlanders are
fucking everything up but really, it's at three
concentrated spots, jetty park, pie-r, cocoa sluts

then there are people that post about working out
there but live here in orlando

i'm going to say something like, one of the hobgoods
lives here in orlando... why don't you tell him to
stay here in town (saw him and his fam at a walgreens
and they were talking about going to a specific school
for their kids meeting)

then it's going to just be a, 'who can type fast enough
to make some zinger before the next person' type
of thread

and then it's going to die down until someone like
yourself decides to post another unwanted thread like
this again which starts another vicious cycle

how about you not make some ridiculous post, since it's
your sixth post and you just found that little piece of
paper with all eight of your passwords including your
myspace log in, and actually post something useful
and worthwhile for the rest of us to read.

Go choke

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 07/18/2014 08:40 PM
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silentsurfer12

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Rick... im right there with ya bud. Im a kooklandian myself. I think its hilarious when people talk trash about the place. Sorry for trolling too hard.

 07/18/2014 11:35 PM
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Julianuribe23

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Be flattered that hardcore/desperate surfers are willing to drive an hour to surf your 1-4ft mushy breaks. The majority of 321 locals would definitely not do the same if the tables were turned and they had to drive... in fact, how often do they chase swells up and down the coast ?

 07/19/2014 08:24 AM
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I am from a different situation than perhaps anyone in the area. Most people do not find themselves as a H.S.A. surfer then move to Florida. Let alone that my father moved us to a place where it was cheap...Orlando.

So taking me out of the mix for Brevard, Volusia, or Orlando...

There are idiots and ghetto thug types everywhere now. So you can not just pick out some trash throwing kook in a wife beater and say they are from O-Town. I am sure the apartments in Cape Canaveral are loaded with them.

Same old adage at any place. Respectfulness and a love for not only surfing but your local area will get you a long way. If you are involved and you are not a public nuisance; you can get along any place. That even goes for the local dirt bags who steal and do other lame b.s.



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 07/19/2014 09:00 AM
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Good point,Steve,,,,, Rick too,

So how do the Hawaiian locals feel when their little slice of paradise gets bombarded by

a car/truckload of in a hurry, big city/non-local types? Just curious


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 07/19/2014 09:14 AM
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I always crack up when the Orlando slagging gets going. I live in Gainesville and generally surf from St. Augustine down to Fort Matanzas, depending on conditions. I'm glad the people on the Surf Station forum don't hate on us Gvillers as much as you guys hate on Orlando residents

 07/18/2014 09:17 PM
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Definelty. Trolling hard SS12, slow down there!

And @rickiegrande- well said! This forum is very "bill murrey- Groundhog Day". Way too much of the same topic on replay with the same arguments. The end of "dropsolo" approaches (jay-z retirement style), not that I ever brought much to the mix anyways. Any other forums with more color around? 16 streets allowing new members yet?

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 07/18/2014 09:26 PM
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I think it's safe to conclude that a minority of good surfers, for whatever the reason, are living in Orlando and have to weekend warrior in order to stay active.


Northjetty101, verse 22: "You can live in Orlando, but you are not of Orlando."

And by of Orlando I mean a surf poser raised there who likes to look the look but can't surf worth a shit.


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ww

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Rename Orlando "Rancho Cucamonga".  Or in Oregon terms, "Portland," which happens to be about the same size as Orlando.

 07/20/2014 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by: ww Rename Orlando "Rancho Cucamonga".  Or in Oregon terms, "Portland," which happens to be about the same size as Orlando.

 

 

LMAO

 

 



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It takes a lot of gas money to be a surfer in Orlando .I grew up there and it takes LOTS of driving and toll on your car but it can be done?But I realized I wanted to make the beach a lifestyle and it was a conflict in Orlando when you would talk about surfing and people look at you crazy and say "there's surf in Florida? Really lol.You better thank Orlando for all the fine asses you see on the beach cause I promise it isn't from Volusia or Brevard.Moral of the story is a asshole is a asshole no matter where your from.Now that I live beachside,I don't look at non locals as any different.They help out the local economy and there's not that many waves anywhere that are that SERIOUS...Least your spoiled ass is lucky to be in the water local or non local.



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I think this how the whole Gaza/Jerusalem problem started. Seriously, I thought this subject died off in 1977.
 07/19/2014 11:21 AM
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WHAT A JOKE, YOU'D BELIEVE YOU ALL ARE PROTECTING THE NORTH SHORE OR SOMETHING, IT'S FLORIDA S*** WAVES 98% OF THE TIME HERE, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THE BULK OF THE TIME BOTH COUNTIES ARE SITTING ON THEIR ASSES BECAUSE: THERE'S NO F***ING WAVES IN FLORIDA. YOU KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT ORLANDORKS? THAT'S WHAT THE REST OF THE SURFING WORLD THINKS ABOUT FLORIDA. YEAH YEAH, KELLY SLATER IS FROM HERE, YOU ALL THINK THAT ACTUALLY FACTORS IN THAT THE WAVES ARE S**T AND THAT'S WHAT COUNTS IN THE END. -ORLANDORK.
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IN THE END WE'RE ALL JUST SITTING INDOORS IN THE AC BECAUSE THERE'S NO REAL WAVES HERE!!!!!! UNLESS YOU COULD THE 2-3 FT BULLS**T CHOP EVERY FEW WEEKS. BICKER AWAY THOUGH, REST OF THE SURFING WORLD PROBABLY LAUGHS AT THESE DISCUSSIONS. BEGGARS OF THE SURFING WORLD FIGHTING OVER SCRAPS.
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While you"re at it can Cape Canaveral please secede from the rest of Brevard County?

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Caps lock huh?
That's cute

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Originally posted by: big rick Caps lock huh? That's cute

 

He has a very solid point. It's like someone who lives in a cardboard box making fun of someone who lives in a dumpster while the people in the apartment laugh at both

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Originally posted by: Julianuribe23

Originally posted by: big rick Caps lock huh? That's cute



 


He has a very solid point. It's like someone who lives in a cardboard box making fun of someone who lives in a dumpster while the people in the apartment laugh at both


What he has is a series of logical fallacies.

An appeal to wave size.

An appeal to location.

All distraction fallacies aimed at putting the attention on something other than the fact that Orlando has been producing kooks that crowd out local beaches for decades now.

If the waves aren't worth holding people accountable for their own actions then the same individuals hadn't ought to be surfing in those waves to begin with.

There's no waves in Florida?

Well then stop surfing please and remove one less person from the crowd.....

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i saw Kelly in Orlando once ...so if its good enough for 11 is it not good enough for you?

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Originally posted by: Northjetty101
Originally posted by: Julianuribe23
Originally posted by: big rick Caps lock huh? That's cute
  He has a very solid point. It's like someone who lives in a cardboard box making fun of someone who lives in a dumpster while the people in the apartment laugh at both
What he has is a series of logical fallacies. An appeal to wave size. An appeal to location. All distraction fallacies aimed at putting the attention on something other than the fact that Orlando has been producing kooks that crowd out local beaches for decades now. If the waves aren't worth holding people accountable for their own actions then the same individuals hadn't ought to be surfing in those waves to begin with. There's no waves in Florida? Well then stop surfing please and remove one less person from the crowd.....
Not a problem, thanks to being an Orlandork I went to college there and got a good job there, after that I was able to move WEST. Keep enjoying those Florida ripples brah and don't come to Cali else I'll have to make a post complaining about damn Floriduh tourists
 07/22/2014 05:50 AM
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Originally posted by: orlandork

Originally posted by: Northjetty101

Originally posted by: Julianuribe23



Originally posted by: big rick Caps lock huh? That's cute






 





He has a very solid point. It's like someone who lives in a cardboard box making fun of someone who lives in a dumpster while the people in the apartment laugh at both




What he has is a series of logical fallacies.



An appeal to wave size.



An appeal to location.



All distraction fallacies aimed at putting the attention on something other than the fact that Orlando has been producing kooks that crowd out local beaches for decades now.



If the waves aren't worth holding people accountable for their own actions then the same individuals hadn't ought to be surfing in those waves to begin with.



There's no waves in Florida?



Well then stop surfing please and remove one less person from the crowd.....



Not a problem, thanks to being an Orlandork I went to college there and got a good job there, after that I was able to move WEST. Keep enjoying those Florida ripples brah and don't come to Cali else I'll have to make a post complaining about damn Floriduh tourists [IMG][/IMG]


I'm a firm believer in not crowding out peoples local break. I have family in Cali and Orlando. When I first paddled out at Malibu I introduced myself as from Florida and asked the guys there if they didn't mind me catching a few waves. Of course they were like, "yeah, no problem." And we talked and carried on. Same thing when I drove up to Steamer Lane and around the Bay. Introduce yourself, be polite, and don't go flying out like you own the place.

That's the way that Orlandorks ought to approach local beaches too. They're aren't local at these beaches. But when they have the right attitude there's no problem.

I wouldn't live in California if you paid me.

Been there, done that. 3 years was all I could stand and couldn't wait to get back home again. I'm a 4th generation Floridian and to be honest I wouldn't live in any other state. Especially not Hawaii.

You see, my skill level isn't dependent on wave size. I suppose those who can't excel with speed and maneuvering in small conditions learn to hate those conditions and in so doing learn to hate Florida.

Thank you very much for setting an example for your peers.

The more fair whether's and assorted barney's that leave Florida the merrier for those of us who do love this state and our local beaches....

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the people who move to 'cali' and still post here are just as annoying
been awhile since ive seen that guy that moved to SF that was a debbie downer on the report posts here

yesterday and today were enjoyable btw, 'bullshit windchop' apparently plenty of people enjoy it.. have fun in your wetsuit year round / cost of living / sitting in traffic / fight for parking / not living near beach unless you're loaded Though if I was going to sit in the car for an hour both ways, I dont blame you and would rather drive for california surf

I actually like living here...

fwiw i enjoy going to orlando and easy access via 528, orlando is good for our area economically for sure

that doesnt mean there arent plenty of out of town disrespectful shmucks that come through here

I also bitch about the orlando tourists that make I4 orlando the scariest road in the state and I don't even live there, aside from college
 07/20/2014 11:36 AM
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i drive in from tampa to do a "property check" then surf   you mad

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Originally posted by: SgtHulk i drive in from tampa to do a "property check" then surf   you mad

Me too. Pm me.



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know how i know your gay?

 07/21/2014 08:01 AM
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it does take a lot of money and a huge toll on your car driving 45 minutes to an hour
just to snag a few waves and enjoy yourself... and for those of us that are on here,
i'm almost sure that we are actually a lot more educated about surfing around a crowd
and respect the 'locals' where ever we go....

So yelling and screaming or posting about people that are like minded and have the
same amount of respect that you do towards surfing is kind of pointless....

i'm sure it really does make you feel macho or whatever you think you feel like when you
bitch and moan about someone from somewhere else? but you really look..... dumb

"You took the day off from everything that you're doing, spent $50 filling your tank,
made sure that you perfectly timed the arrival of a summer swell, arrived at the appropriate
tide for a specific break, shared waves (in the sense of not taking every single one),
showed true etiquette, and had some laughs with people in the water but you're from
orlando? SCREW YOU AND GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM!!!! NEVER COME HERE AGAIN!"

Yeah, that makes sense.....

go back to myspace where plenty of people will hear your cry for help.

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Surfed in Paradise today;; it was wonderful. I commuted from Melb Beach.

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So wait.... Because someone doesn't live beach side they have
to go to each spot and introduce themselves and ask for waves?

Oh piss off!

"Hey, I'm from orlando. I've surf for 19 years and this is my 482 time
surfing this spot but I've never seen you here so I though I should
Introduce myself and politely ask you if I can have a surf here?"

Fuck that shit

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what Rick said! F88k off!
 07/22/2014 04:41 PM
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Where you live gives you no special privilege
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Man,I wish it was only an hour drive for me. I drive 3 hours to catch waves here in Texas. I only surf about 6-10 times a year now because of that. When the surf is pumping in Texas its such a small window and it does get crowded(Bob Hall Pier) People seemed to be a little more laid back in Texas. I have surfed plenty in both states and have seen all types. Being respectful no matter where you surf is the best bet. 



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To make it easier for locals I guess anyone coming to the beaches to surf must wear Mickey hats.

 



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Originally posted by: big rick

So wait.... Because someone doesn't live beach side they have

to go to each spot and introduce themselves and ask for waves?



Oh piss off!



"Hey, I'm from orlando. I've surf for 19 years and this is my 482 time

surfing this spot but I've never seen you here so I though I should

Introduce myself and politely ask you if I can have a surf here?"



Fuck that shit


Courtesy, smart ass, I'm talking about having courtesy when going to places where you aren't a member of the local community.

And you wanna cry about a simple statement of acting like a decent human being and having a situational type of awareness in your mind when you're visiting some one else's community?

No, fuck that shit.

That's why you barney's get run out of the water at times and sent home by aggro locals in Volusia and Brevard. You think you own the place and it's your God given right to mix in with the people who live at that beach and surf it regularly as if you're a member of that click. You're not. Not unless over the years you have worked your way into one by going there enough.

The Orlando mentality rears it's ugly head.

I paddled out at OA last weekend for the who knows what time in the last 25 years. But I don't live there. I'm not local there. I have never lived near OA and don't have an established life long local status like I do at so many other beaches that I have live at in my life - and have been an active member of those particular surf communities.

I struck up conversation with the locals who where out there. I didn't have to. It's not required of me. But I did it any ways out of respect for the break. I told them that I'm from out of town, just passing through, and that I appreciated having a fun session at their spot. Everyone was very friendly. There wasn't a cross word the entire time. No stare downs.

Did I think to myself, "fuck all this, I'm going out there and taking what's mine! I've surfed this spot a gazillion times over the last 25 years so I don't have to act polite."

No I didn't.

And I didn't think like that because I don't have that type of inconsiderate, the whole fucking world belongs to me, "Orlando" mentality.






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Originally posted by: Northjetty101

Courtesy, smart ass, I'm talking about having courtesy when going to places
where you aren't a member of the local community.

And you wanna cry about a simple statement of acting like a decent human
being and having a situational type of awareness in your mind when you're
visiting some one else's community?

No, fuck that shit.


No, you doh doh. you're not getting it.
courtesy doesn't mean you have to act like a damn baby and get permission
to surf someones spot.
you wanna be mindful of the locals, talk to them, pass up a few waves, and
shoot the shit with them when you're waiting for a few waves.

i can assure you that i've done the same thing through and through and have
never had a problem with anyone, anywhere, or at anytime and it usually ends
up with me saying, 'hey, if you're ever in orlando, lets grab a beer'

That's why you barney's get run out of the water at times and sent home
by aggro locals in Volusia and Brevard. You think you own the place and it's
your God given right to mix in with the people who live at that beach and surf
it regularly as if you're a member of that click. You're not. Not unless over the
years you have worked your way into one by going there enough.

The Orlando mentality rears it's ugly head.


is it the orlando mentality rearing it's ugly head or is it people that are over
protective about a piece of 'property' that they never owned to begin with

i've never been ran out of the water, only people with an 'i'm going to be a
tough agro surfer' and a 'these people are snaking my waves' mentality
get ran out of the water. THEY are the ones that cause problems and they
are the ones that you are trying to speak to.

I don't think i own a fucking thing with the exception of my surfboard and my
piece of shit truck that i showed up in....

there is nothing that is written anywhere that says i can't mix in the water with
people who live and surf beach side and since there is no god, it's just a right
and nothing else.

a 'click'.... HA! i laugh at the fact that you feel like you need to be a part of something to 'belong'
here's a thought, why don't you just go have a surf, like myself (and hopefully
better than my fat ass ) and not feel the need to belong to anything and
just be free.


I paddled out at OA last weekend for the who knows what time in the last
25 years. But I don't live there. I'm not local there. I have never lived near
OA and don't have an established life long local status like I do at so many
other beaches that I have live at in my life - and have been an active
member of those particular surf communities.

I struck up conversation with the locals who where out there. I didn't have to.
It's not required of me. But I did it any ways out of respect for the break. I
told them that I'm from out of town, just passing through, and that I
appreciated having a fun session at their spot. Everyone was very friendly.
There wasn't a cross word the entire time. No stare downs.

Did I think to myself, "fuck all this, I'm going out there and taking what's
mine! I've surfed this spot a gazillion times over the last 25 years so I don't
have to act polite."

No I didn't.

And I didn't think like that because I don't have that type of inconsiderate,
the whole fucking world belongs to me, "Orlando" mentality.


good for you
I like to talk to people as well.
I love going out and having a surf, shooting the shit, having a laugh, asking
people about their equipment, if they've ever shaped boards (you can kinda
tell who has and who hasn't) and just talking about whatever.

and i like making the occasional joke about a shark eating a pelican jaws
movie poster style with its wings sticking out of either side of its mouth cause
it'd look funny as hell.

but regardless, it's not this porky pig style of asking if i can surf a spot.
i'm a free individual that is free to do anything he wants as long as i'm not
doing things that are rude and inconsiderate of others and can stop by any
spot in florida and surf whatever spot i want.

YOU CAN TOO!
Anyone can for that matter.

It's just simple.... Don't be a fucking dick.

Just don't

and for you to interpret my words as "fuck all this, I'm going out there and
taking what's mine! I've surfed this spot a gazillion times over the last 25
years so I don't have to act polite." means you got it all wrong buddy.

I'd love to get out and have a surf with ya then go drink a few beers with you
to show you that it doesn't take asking for permission from the 'locals' just
to go have a surf somewhere.



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big rick, Buddy your wasting good brain cells on this BS, Fun to watch and read it, but I think the punk azz...yes I said punk azz peeps that don't like the die hards that make the drive from inland just need to bury the heads in the sand!!!

Good chance I was surfing Shark Pit well before the whiners were even born......



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It has always baffled me over the years why these threads/debates even happen. I mean there is a whole big ocean out there which is a glorious gift from some higher being for us all to enjoy. Why is that a select few want to piss in it and mark their spot? I'm not pointing fingers at either side just wondering why the need to even have the thought enter one's mind. Oh well carry on gentlemen ....

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No one takes surfing in florida serious!!! It's all in your head!



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well, that was my original post.
why make the thread?
and on top of that, why make the thread and try to call out
the people that respect the ocean and the surfers as much
as you do?

it makes no sense.

'HEY! ALL OF YOU THAT ARE EQUALLY AS RESPECTFUL OF ONE
ANOTHER AND THE OCEAN, SCREW YOU BECAUSE YOU LIVE
MORE THAN A QUARTER MILE AWAY FROM THE OCEAN!'

all that shit talking if for the social media sites and not for
a place like this.

like i said, just don't be a dick and be mindful of others and
you've got yourself a wonderful day of surfing and sharing
laughs with random people.

Johnny, you going to the BDM meet up before the BDM meet up?

I'm gonna bring a few rare beers from my cellar (which is really my
closet but closed ) and share at johnnys fillin station.

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Originally posted by: big rick

well, that was my original post.

why make the thread?

and on top of that, why make the thread and try to call out

the people that respect the ocean and the surfers as much

as you do?



it makes no sense.



'HEY! ALL OF YOU THAT ARE EQUALLY AS RESPECTFUL OF ONE

ANOTHER AND THE OCEAN, SCREW YOU BECAUSE YOU LIVE

MORE THAN A QUARTER MILE AWAY FROM THE OCEAN!'



all that shit talking if for the social media sites and not for

a place like this.



like i said, just don't be a dick and be mindful of others and

you've got yourself a wonderful day of surfing and sharing

laughs with random people.



Johnny, you going to the BDM meet up before the BDM meet up?



I'm gonna bring a few rare beers from my cellar (which is really my

closet but closed [IMG][/IMG] ) and share at johnnys fillin station. [IMG][/IMG]

I'll quote this post because our other line was getting too long.

I think that you're one of those guys who are in Orlando, but not of Orlando as I was for the 4 years I lived there. And I think you've mistaken my suggestion of asking as groveling or begging to try and get a surf in. No, I'm talking about a courteous gesture. You're gonna surf any ways of course, but if you present yourself as a nice guy not trying to get in their way they're not going to hate on you right of the mark.

I am speaking to a certain stereotype of inlander's who will show up and go right out to the first peak and paddle battle local people with a cocky look in their as if they belong there and it's there god given right to rub shoulders with the people who surf that spot all the time. This probably isn't you, Big Rick. But it is certainly an Orlando type that often crowd out Smyrna, Ponce, the Inlet, and the popular Brevard beaches.

If Orlando by and large had a reputation for being courteous and polite visitors then people wouldn't be posting hate threads to begin with. The reputation exists for a reason. You Big Rick sound like the exception, not the rule.

This thread is aimed at the assholes, not the reasonable guys driving over.

Right?


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Watch out for those beachside surf clicks!
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Uh oh - I dont know what bdm means
Urban dictionary has too many entries
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....................................I am actually from Tennessee but grew up in Orlando. I am in one of the bands that plays Neptune. Come by for a friendly handshake and some good vibes. My band plays tonight Fri 7/25 9:00 to 12:30 ish. I usually surf a secret spot south of Neptune between 5min and 20min no can tell. I have never seen a crowd even on the 4th of July or Labor day and have never seen bad vibes there in over 35 years. Respect and good vibes are the key. Funny thing is I have run into people like, Marty at Ft Pierce, Wavecaster at Clark St, Slater at Salt Creek, Gorkin at St Andrews, Freeman at Stuart and almost everybody on this site at Venice, White Ave and Sandkey. Never a bad vibe with the exception of the Piers and Inlets. Which is to be expected. I actually prefer the teasing from being an Oville to being left out of the pack or run out of the pack. LOL Plus I rip and am a hulk of a man which makes it easier too.
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it all has to do with being a millionaire buddy

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yeah, i'm sure of it
but check this... when people post that in here, it's not going to make
a difference but it's going to fuel a damn fire cause you're just making
everyone else upset and starting a battle with your 'friends' for no reason

i'm sure there are people that think that being agro and a surfer at the
same time is cool or the way you're supposed to surf

but it's obviously not.

there are people that are beach side that think being that way is cool too
when they surf all the time at the same spot and cause they're locals

and that's a shame cause you're really feeding into a negative stereotype

so.... lets all shame the next dude that post an anti orlando thread

cause THAT would be bloody hysterical
and lets totally mess with them

by the way... i REALLY wanna see a shark eat a pelican out of the water with
it's beak sticking straight up and wings the sides of it's mouth

is that a bad thing?

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Big Rick, you're just trying to make a point to local assholes and I'm simply trying to make a point to non-local assholes. I think it's safe to say that both parties ought to stand corrected.

I guess I agree to agree?
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Yep
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to watch a
shark eat a pelican whilst I drink this fine beer
Cigar city Hunahpu imperial Stout

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Big Rick, tiger sharks eat albatrosses all the time. Check youtube. I hope that satisfies your fetish.

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this forum is littered with kooks....everyone knows from cocoa beach to sebastian is one big mushy closeout.....keep your pathetic "secret" spots like the pier,2nd light and RCs.....maybe start a post about transitioning from longboarding to shortboarding lol....you guys are so funny
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We live in florida and take surfing waist high waves 300 days out of the year and some how we take this serious.Get real.Were all kooks at that point.People are so funny how serious they take this local vs non local shit.Just go surf and shut up.Its overhead less than 15 days a year and when it is ,it's usaully blown out,there's no real surf compared to rest of surfing world.



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Originally posted by: IHBlocdogg

We live in Florida and take surfing waist high waves 300 days out of the year and some how we take this serious.Get real.Were all kooks at that point.People are so funny how serious they take this local vs non local shit.Just go surf and shut up.Its overhead less than 15 days a year and when it is ,it's usaully blown out,there's no real surf compared to rest of surfing world.


I get what you're saying about not taking things too serious, but you're on your own with the "we're all kooks" thing.

I'm not, are you?

These types of appeal to wave size logical fallacies are common. I suppose people don't realize they're making them unless some one points it out. I already said that an appeal to wave size is a distraction fallacy. We have a lot of people who are doing the same moves that everyone else in the world is doing on the waves that we get here. I've seen guys on the Gulf coast pulling off the same airs the everyone else is doing. They do it here, they do it when they travel. I'd like to see you convince these people they're Florida kooks.

It fluctuates between flat to outrageous everywhere in the world, of course. And yet people take surfing serious where ever you go in the world even though they have waist to chest high days just like we do. You think the Hawaiians are going to become unserious just because it's smaller one day than another? Not give a shit that you blatantly snaked one of theirs on a wave because it was a certain sized wave? Or the Aussies? Or the Brazilians? Or the Californians?

When I was at Malibu that first time in 89', I watched people get fist to the face beaten up at the head of the point on a waist to chest day in mid July. I wasn't expecting that at what I thought would be a laid back, long board, much smaller day than it was at Zuma beach up the road. Over head there, waist to chest just down the road. And yet fist were flying at the small break.

That's the time that I was so polite and told them straight away that I was visiting from Florida. At Topanga I remember watching some asshole snake the guy who had priority and then it blew up into chaos right there in the water. At a long board break on waist to chest high in California! I guess they didn't get the memo on not taking it serious.

As a skinny teenage kid, I stayed down the peak and took left overs that people pulled out on. The locals who I was sitting close to told me about how most Floridians are usually assholes and come out there showing no respect and how they usually aren't very fond of us. They complimented me for showing the right respect and not acting like the stereotype. They let me get in there and get some waves. But I sure as hell made sure that no one was coming down the line before I paddled in. I knew what would happen if I didn't pay attention to the peak. Kids these days don't quite understand those types of harsh consequences because they seldom eye witness things like that happening.

Another thing I witnessed at an early age in California: The San Fernando Valley is the LA county beaches version of our Orlando.

They don't like Valley kooks paddling out.

And when I went to Galveston Texas I noticed that there was a type of stand offish attitude towards the Huston city boys that crowd them out.

And in Ft. Pierce you have Okeechobee and Arcadia travelers that will get called out at times along with any one from Palm Beach to Miami that gets too far out of line. Although that's settled down a lot of the last decade.

In St. Auggie you have the Palatka and Gainsville travelers and also up at Jacksonville who add to their line up. I've heard guys bitching about that.

And in the Panhandle you have people from Tallahassee and Georgia filtering down. When I paddled out at Destin on a Hurricane swell I was asked if I came down from Georgia or Tallahassee. I told them I came from Cocoa Beach and that seemed to go over better for some reason. They struck up conversation about how they like to come visit the east coast. But they had nothing good to say about Tallahassee and Georgia invaders.

Pretty much any where you go in the world you will find beach locals and then city or some other country inland folk that frequent the beaches. And in every location you'll find beach locals that have learned to despise the over crowding on weekends or whatever the case may be. And a derogatory slur will evolve in response to the inlander's overcrowding which ever beach it is.

The deeper issue is whether it's right or wrong, but rest assured the bias's do exist pretty much any where there's surf. The very term "Barney," as you may or may not know, originated as a term for inland country folk heading out to the beach. It means not a good surfer nowadays but in the original sense it was calling some one from inland, not a good surfer.

I've conceded to Big Rick that it's probably not right to hate on Orlando. Looking at the bigger picture it's probably not right for LA county guys to hate the Valley either. Or the Panhandle guys to hate on Tallahassee and Georgia. Or the Jetty crew to hate on South Florida.

But it's also not right to have the sort of side show circus acts that do occur when way too many people travel in from afar and crowd out a spot. And the visiting people show no courtesy whether the waves are big or small.

One of these two problems shouldn't be allowed to silence the other.....









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I hear what your saying in all those words but it all comes down to RESPECT.I live in between to two most popular spots Ponce and Symrna my only grip is kids that come over for the day and sit on main peak and expect to get every wave when they have no clue of the line up and drop in half way during your ride.But it's the INLETS and getting cut off and cutting others off is part of surfing around here not that it's right but it happens from time to time and most of the time there is a "my bad" at the end of it.You don't take it personal.During the week when out of towners aren't around it is a lot more mellow and you see the same faces out daily at the correct tides.But every where you go there is a conflict with others,myself have had no problems because I put my head down and shut up and let my surfing do the talking.I have surfed all over the world and this country and that drama isn't there and really isn't a mindset.There is plenty of kooks anywhere and they can be your so called local too!!Its surfing and the waves are not serious to where the wave is gonna hurt you.And this message board is for mostly brevard county where if you are around "Orlando guys" then paddle your happy ass down the beach because it's not a reef or jetty ,it's 90% Beachbreaks?Too much thinking into something so retarded ,a JUST SURF you spoiled brat!!Yours truly,The kook!!



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no tiempo to read this, but there hasn't been a day in perhaps over a thousand days when Cape Canaveral was the call... You probably invade the shorelines of other municipalities frequently, don't you?

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All of this reminds me of why I surf alone.  I will say it is frustrating when I am out on Sunday morning all by myself and two guys come over the boardwalk with a mile in either direction of me empty and they paddle out right next to me.  I think WTF so I paddles down the beach and don't care where they are from, that still sucks.  I still had fun though.



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For what it's worth, I hit the light yesterday (up at 5 AM, in the water by 7:30) and had the joint glassy and to myself until about 9. Even then there were not THAT many people in the water. Confusing since this is "the spot" for most and there were fun waves to be had up until I bailed at noon. Guess the locals were either at a better spot or didn't wanna blow off work for waist to waist plus waves. Either way, the "my spot mentality" has never been an issue I've seen anywhere but the inlet(s) so let the VERY few people on here complain about Orlando as long as it stays here. 

Rick, I got too much goin on Saturday to hit the meetup but BDM since day one. We def need to hook up and invade some spots  



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I'm surprised that you're so casual about the crowds. Most guys up that way despise Orlando because of the regular beach rapings that go down every weekend. It's always been like that for decades though. Hey, good on you if you're not bothered by it.








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i surf alone... i surf alone... and when i surf alone...i prefer to be by myself...

gota be a song in there somewhere!



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Do you guys play the surf classic, "Get Off My Wave"?

(palm muted single chord distortion)

We all grew up around here,
No one knows who the hell you are,
So get your asses in gear,
And get off my wave!
Get off my wave......

Any one remember that old school song? It was on a surf video years ago and that's the only thing I remember from it. I'm kinda fuzzy on it but I think young Fletcher, Potz, and pretty all who were considered radical at the time. Would that be wave warriors?



Let's not forget, "go back to the valley man!"

And "cause that would be a waste of time."

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I don't mind Orlando people. Sometimes it's nice to have to company. That is as long as they Don't throw their trash on the ground and try to make it look like Orlando. And as long as they bring their women with them wearing a thong and as long as they don't drop in on me. I'v met some cool surfers from orlando. It would be nice to see amy surfing here again. That little blonde chick could walk the board and stand on the nose as good as Joel Tudor.
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