08/15/2017 11:16 AM
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HAPDigital
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Originally posted by: obx2
For the most part, I've been silent on what happened in Charlottesville. Watching, reading, listening, and thinking. I know I am going to be attacked, but wanted to put this out there:
With all the hatred towards Nazis, KKK, and White Supremacist Douchebags (WSDs), I can't help but draw some stunning similarities by those espousing the hatred, to the objects of target. In fact, some of the very tactics used by the Nazis, KKK, and WSDs are being used against them in the name of "standing up for whats right."
Something I have observed; the BLM protests, the liberal protesting accross the nation over Trump, or the protests at college campuses over conservative speakers, most, if not all of them, resulted in damage to property and/or violence. What realy stands out is, they were allowed to progress with minimal interaction from the government/police. Ferguson was literaly allowed to burn, by those who swore to protect it.
There is a certain "Mob mentality" going on here in America that is clouding any logic, reasoning, or ability to openly discuss opposing views (thus preventing any common ground), I am watching people, Americans none-the-less, do the very same things the Nazis did, under the guise of "acceptance" and "tolerance." And the irony of said tactics and beliefs are lost on them. We are becoming a society that is OK with shutting down the opposition with violence, erasing history, forcing beliefs by scare tactics and/or insults thrown at those who don't believe, and all of this is fueled by a media that does not report facts, but only narratives.
This Mob mentality is the very mentality that allowed the Nazis to gain power. This Mob mentality (whether its under the guise of acceptance, tolerance, civil rights, socialism) is the very thing we all should be aware and cautious of, for its this mentality that has lead to the wrong people gaining power and the deaths of millions all throughout history.
We are watching History repeat itself, and its not the WSDs we should be worried about. Its the ones who are shutting down the opposition, refusing to accept democratically elected officials, insighting violence, damaging property, and free from the rule of law that are always the predecessors of a dark, evil time in history. Once they gain power, only one viewpoint will be accepted and backed by law. Is this really what you guys want?
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and loose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves" ......in the name of progress
Lest History repeat itself........
Why do you call the nazis etc douchebags? Please give specific reasons. Then state why our "mob mentality" should not oppose them.
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08/15/2017 11:57 AM
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obx2
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital Originally posted by: obx2 For the most part, I've been silent on what happened in Charlottesville. Watching, reading, listening, and thinking. I know I am going to be attacked, but wanted to put this out there:
With all the hatred towards Nazis, KKK, and White Supremacist Douchebags (WSDs), I can't help but draw some stunning similarities by those espousing the hatred, to the objects of target. In fact, some of the very tactics used by the Nazis, KKK, and WSDs are being used against them in the name of "standing up for whats right."
Something I have observed; the BLM protests, the liberal protesting accross the nation over Trump, or the protests at college campuses over conservative speakers, most, if not all of them, resulted in damage to property and/or violence. What realy stands out is, they were allowed to progress with minimal interaction from the government/police. Ferguson was literaly allowed to burn, by those who swore to protect it.
There is a certain "Mob mentality" going on here in America that is clouding any logic, reasoning, or ability to openly discuss opposing views (thus preventing any common ground), I am watching people, Americans none-the-less, do the very same things the Nazis did, under the guise of "acceptance" and "tolerance." And the irony of said tactics and beliefs are lost on them. We are becoming a society that is OK with shutting down the opposition with violence, erasing history, forcing beliefs by scare tactics and/or insults thrown at those who don't believe, and all of this is fueled by a media that does not report facts, but only narratives.
This Mob mentality is the very mentality that allowed the Nazis to gain power. This Mob mentality (whether its under the guise of acceptance, tolerance, civil rights, socialism) is the very thing we all should be aware and cautious of, for its this mentality that has lead to the wrong people gaining power and the deaths of millions all throughout history.
We are watching History repeat itself, and its not the WSDs we should be worried about. Its the ones who are shutting down the opposition, refusing to accept democratically elected officials, insighting violence, damaging property, and free from the rule of law that are always the predecessors of a dark, evil time in history. Once they gain power, only one viewpoint will be accepted and backed by law. Is this really what you guys want?
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and loose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves" ......in the name of progress
Lest History repeat itself........
Why do you call the nazis etc douchebags? Please give specific reasons. Then state why our "mob mentality" should not oppose them.
Anybody who beligerantly stands by any belief of "self rightousness" because of (insert whatever), is a douchebag in my book.
To be more specific, pertianing to the Nazis/WSDs, I can laugh at them and go abouts my buisness uneffected. My concern would develope if they are actively violent, actively shutting down events, actively pursuing a goal of dominence either politicaly, socialy, or by force. From my perspective, I can still laugh at them and go abouts my buisness/life uneffected.
It appears there is a ceratin ideology, a certain side of the political spectrum, that are the ones being violent, actively shutting down events, and actively pursuing dominance of opinion. Thus the point of this thread, thats were the concern should be.
I commend you for at least admitting the mob mentality that is going on.
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08/15/2017 12:06 PM
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bus
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All I know is that the mob mentality was displayed when a group of "people" on their way to Charlottesville, came very close to attacking my family because of a Bob Marley sticker.
In my former job of a news photog. The only hostile groups that I ever encountered were the alt-right. Having stuff thrown at us at Trump events for being the libereal media. Being threatend by the gun freaks for reporting on their rally ( that they sent out press realeses about).
Conversely an anti-hate event had no such display of ass-hatery
We didnt have the option of laughing at them on Saturday. Luckily the state police got there as the storm strooper-wannabe started coming back to us with his modified hiking stick.
yeah. Its the peaceniks that are the problem.
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08/15/2017 12:17 PM
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HAPDigital
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Originally posted by: bus
All I know is that the mob mentality was displayed when a group of "people" on their way to Charlottesville, came very close to attacking my family because of a Bob Marley sticker.
In my former job of a news photog. The only hostile groups that I ever encountered were the alt-right. Having stuff thrown at us at Trump events for being the libereal media. Being threatend by the gun freaks for reporting on their rally ( that they sent out press realeses about).
Conversely an anti-hate event had no such display of ass-hatery
We didnt have the option of laughing at them on Saturday. Luckily the state police got there as the storm strooper-wannabe started coming back to us with his modified hiking stick.
yeah. Its the peaceniks that are the problem. [IMG][/IMG]
My friend's grandfather, that stormed Normandy, once told me: If you ever come across a Nazi, punch him. Punch him dead.
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08/15/2017 12:15 PM
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HAPDigital
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Originally posted by: obx2
Originally posted by: HAPDigital Originally posted by: obx2 For the most part, I've been silent on what happened in Charlottesville. Watching, reading, listening, and thinking. I know I am going to be attacked, but wanted to put this out there:
With all the hatred towards Nazis, KKK, and White Supremacist Douchebags (WSDs), I can't help but draw some stunning similarities by those espousing the hatred, to the objects of target. In fact, some of the very tactics used by the Nazis, KKK, and WSDs are being used against them in the name of "standing up for whats right."
Something I have observed; the BLM protests, the liberal protesting accross the nation over Trump, or the protests at college campuses over conservative speakers, most, if not all of them, resulted in damage to property and/or violence. What realy stands out is, they were allowed to progress with minimal interaction from the government/police. Ferguson was literaly allowed to burn, by those who swore to protect it.
There is a certain "Mob mentality" going on here in America that is clouding any logic, reasoning, or ability to openly discuss opposing views (thus preventing any common ground), I am watching people, Americans none-the-less, do the very same things the Nazis did, under the guise of "acceptance" and "tolerance." And the irony of said tactics and beliefs are lost on them. We are becoming a society that is OK with shutting down the opposition with violence, erasing history, forcing beliefs by scare tactics and/or insults thrown at those who don't believe, and all of this is fueled by a media that does not report facts, but only narratives.
This Mob mentality is the very mentality that allowed the Nazis to gain power. This Mob mentality (whether its under the guise of acceptance, tolerance, civil rights, socialism) is the very thing we all should be aware and cautious of, for its this mentality that has lead to the wrong people gaining power and the deaths of millions all throughout history.
We are watching History repeat itself, and its not the WSDs we should be worried about. Its the ones who are shutting down the opposition, refusing to accept democratically elected officials, insighting violence, damaging property, and free from the rule of law that are always the predecessors of a dark, evil time in history. Once they gain power, only one viewpoint will be accepted and backed by law. Is this really what you guys want?
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and loose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves" ......in the name of progress
Lest History repeat itself........
Why do you call the nazis etc douchebags? Please give specific reasons. Then state why our "mob mentality" should not oppose them.
Anybody who beligerantly stands by any belief of "self rightousness" because of (insert whatever), is a douchebag in my book.
To be more specific, pertianing to the Nazis/WSDs, I can laugh at them and go abouts my buisness uneffected. My concern would develope if they are actively violent, actively shutting down events, actively pursuing a goal of dominence either politicaly, socialy, or by force. From my perspective, I can still laugh at them and go abouts my buisness/life uneffected.
It appears there is a ceratin ideology, a certain side of the political spectrum, that are the ones being violent, actively shutting down events, and actively pursuing dominance of opinion. Thus the point of this thread, thats were the concern should be.
I commend you for at least admitting the mob mentality that is going on.
Did you read my post? There was quotes around "mob mentality." I'm not sure but I think this fits the definition of a mob.
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