Maybe my response was out of context miker,
I often have trouble figuring out where you are going with arguments, what you are trying to say...
I don't see any evidence that CK is entitled or spoiled in any way.

The national anthem isn't about football, and football isn't about patriotism, whether real or of the "last refuge of scoundrels" type.
I don't like the need for an enforced show of patriotism before a sports event. That's not what this nation is about to me, not what I served for.

I always stand for the anthem, even in this questionable context. I was trained that way, I don't have much to protest, America been good to people like me.

(other than the recent selection of a racist piece of shit traitor thief to lead, that makes me question what America is about to those of you that voted for him)

But I don't care for how people keep saying that these statements are somehow disrespecting "the troops or " the flag" because if you just ask the kneelers they are clear that it is not.

I don't care if you question my service Mr Soze, I know how I spent those 9 years.


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Not all of them, but Colin is for sure. He has sacrificed million$ to help people who are facing a grave injustice. And I mean GRAVE in the most literal sense.

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"I remember South Africa in the late 70's, sleeping on the beach at J-bay, smoking ganja with the blacks. On weekends we'd go to the pub in East London to drink beer and fight with the Afrikaners. They liked to fight, I liked to fight. It was a good time"

I might agree with you if it weren't for the Chavez and Castro nonsense. I could write off the pig cop socks, saying he disrespected the country, and being a hypocrite for not voting as just being a childish punk. Unfortunately the latter is either extreme ignorance or he is just not a very good person.

He helped himself to hijacking the National Anthem where in fact people gave their very lives for this country!

Only a serious asshole would do that.

No the people of this country aren'r backing down for it!

The NFL will stand for the National Anthem or the NFL will fold!

Insulting our flag, our country AND the very Veterans that gave their lives for our freedom is NOT to be messed with!

Not now...not EVER!

Colin Kapernick (and friends) can Eat Shit and Die long before the American people will allow him to disrespect our foundation and veterans!

FACT!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

I don't see it as insulting anything. He's not doing it as an insult.

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"I remember South Africa in the late 70's, sleeping on the beach at J-bay, smoking ganja with the blacks. On weekends we'd go to the pub in East London to drink beer and fight with the Afrikaners. They liked to fight, I liked to fight. It was a good time"

'He' (or you for that matter) in this case doesn't matter.

It's what the people KNOW he is doing!

That's exactly why the people have removed themselves from NFL games AND watching any NFL games on TV or other media. It further goes to not purchasing any wares or memorabilia.

The people are DONE with his and your shit!

Do you understand what the term 'DONE' means?!?!

I think not!

You will understand soon enough!

Fool!



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

He and I are both part of "the people". As are you. I don't care if the NFL completely folds.

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"I remember South Africa in the late 70's, sleeping on the beach at J-bay, smoking ganja with the blacks. On weekends we'd go to the pub in East London to drink beer and fight with the Afrikaners. They liked to fight, I liked to fight. It was a good time"

Yeah...you and he are part of "the people' but every single one of us has the same right to vote with our dollars!

You just don't get it!

WE the people are done with your (and Colin Kapernic's) shit!

That means that a very large group of 'we the people' have decided to NOT spend our dollars on your POS Colin Kapernick 'protest'!

That means that your NFL is done!

Just a matter of time!



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Colin's not playing in the NFL this year, they blacklisted him
I would think you might support that blacklisting, but do what you want.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

"vote with our dollars"  How democratic. I don't watch football. Didn't you catch my idea that the repeated blows to the head in midget league football causes republicanism?  HUT! HUT! BAM!

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"I remember South Africa in the late 70's, sleeping on the beach at J-bay, smoking ganja with the blacks. On weekends we'd go to the pub in East London to drink beer and fight with the Afrikaners. They liked to fight, I liked to fight. It was a good time"

Don't need to blacklist him.

Voting with dollars works just fine!

DONE!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

yea, you didn't get that at all, did you?

freaking genius, you are.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Dr seuss spews more chumpfscum historical revisionist crap. That he knows utterly nothing about....
We'll start with cassius clay. And yes, its my era.
He was sponsored by the mafia, thru don king.
The 2nd liston fight was a fix, sonny took a dive. Mark knopfler wrote a song: the bears goin down.
Then: the mohammed ali ka ka:
Elijah muhammad from the black muslim movement got hold of his ignorant ass.
They were violently racist anti white anti american dirtbags. Their most vocal aggressive spokesman was malcolm x. He murdered elijah muhamad.
Much more to come.
But ali was no american hero, you stupid fucks.

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It's a democratic hoax

Jackie robinson always struck me as a guy who just wanted to play buaseball.
Black players had been playing on white teams for years. Ken Burns "Baseball" series tells the story well.
Ali, on the other hand, took on a violently antiwhite, anti american islamic viewpoint.His mentor was murdered by malcolm x
And used that "philosophy" to refuse the draft and lost his title for it.
Everything about nam and the draft was fucking wrong folks.
But to compare ali to jackie robinson is crap....
chumpfscum dimwits
We'll discuss colin next time.
duh

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It's a democratic hoax

I misspoke in my last post... meant the former, not the latter.

I'm listening and kind of agree that Ali as hero is a bit overblown he was dude that got paid well for beating up other dudes but I'm not sure I accept the whole "violent anti white" bit on his part.


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill