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 08/16/2017 10:18 AM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: obx2
Originally posted by: HAPDigital Obx, Just think about it. Your view points are sympathizing with Nazis and the Confederacy bet yet you're doing two contradictory things, trying to justify them and then trying to make them out to be leftist villains. Pick one or the other. It can't be both. Which one is it? SMH

So now I'm a Nazi sympathizer? WTF?!?! So much for "I may not agree with what you are saying, but I defendt the right for you to say it".

This is the exact false equivanlent being pushed via the narrative, and you are obviously gobbling it up and reguritating it.

Lets set the record straight, right now. I am a believer in free speech. If some WSDs want to stand there with torches, hoods, and act like assholes, I don't care. Until they cross the line of physical harm, I am forced into something I don't want, or they start damaging property. I don't have to give them any attention and don't have to listen to them. That in no way equates me to a "Nazi sympathizer". Just stop that BS, please. Nazis are one of the most vile examples of how fcked up mankind can be, when they operated via mob mentality to satsify the lust for power. Allow me to repeat the last part "how fcked up man kind can be (or become) when they operate via mob mentality to attain and satisfy the lust for power." 

It is that last statement that we should all fear and squash (thus the beauty of our Constitution and genious of our founding fathers in creating a republic, versus a true democracy, but I digress) and it is exactly the mentality I see going on with the Left, as it has been for the past hundred years or so.

 

You still didn't answer the question.
 08/16/2017 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by: jdbman Democrats came correct. Byrd was the last of his kind. I'm pretty darn sure that no Democrats today are Nazi or KKK. Trump ., Nazis and KKK are not Republicans either. The lines are clear at this point.

No, I get it. However, you can not gloss over the fact that this KKK bastard (who happened to be a Democrat) was a mentor to Clinton, and revered by Obama. You can not sit there and denounce the KKK and/or say "the democrats came correct" , when the leaders of the party were mentored by, and showed admiration too, KKK leaders.

 08/16/2017 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by: obx2
Originally posted by: jdbman Democrats came correct. Byrd was the last of his kind. I'm pretty darn sure that no Democrats today are Nazi or KKK. Trump ., Nazis and KKK are not Republicans either. The lines are clear at this point.
No, I get it. However, you can not gloss over the fact that this KKK bastard (who happened to be a Democrat) was a mentor to Clinton, and revered by Obama. You can not sit there and denounce the KKK and/or say "the democrats came correct" , when the leaders of the party were mentored by, and showed admiration too, KKK leaders.
Even if this guy was the most vile Klansman how does it change current events? Last I checked Hillary is not President.
 08/16/2017 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: obx2
Originally posted by: jdbman Democrats came correct. Byrd was the last of his kind. I'm pretty darn sure that no Democrats today are Nazi or KKK. Trump ., Nazis and KKK are not Republicans either. The lines are clear at this point.
No, I get it. However, you can not gloss over the fact that this KKK bastard (who happened to be a Democrat) was a mentor to Clinton, and revered by Obama. You can not sit there and denounce the KKK and/or say "the democrats came correct" , when the leaders of the party were mentored by, and showed admiration too, KKK leaders.
Even if this guy was the most vile Klansman how does it change current events? Last I checked Hillary is not President.

No, but last I checked, you wanted her to be. The very reason this was mentioned was to counter your notion that the Democrats are different now. Y'all still have a couple of decades before the influence of the Southern Democrats are gone from your party.  

Its this very dichotomy that is lost on the "usefull idiots" of the Left.

 08/16/2017 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by: obx2 Love how you all try and say "the democrats are different now, the racist democrats became Republicans, etc.."

 

How the hell do you explain this guy, a Democrat who served untill 2010, who was a member of the KKK, and loved by Clinton and Obama?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How did WVA vote this year? Wonder what demographic made that change. Same demographic that flipped Bama and the rest of the south years ago. Took the death of union mining and manufacturing plus the Kim Davis stuff to make those racist hill billy shit bags switch parties.



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 08/16/2017 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by: obx2
Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: obx2
Originally posted by: jdbman Democrats came correct. Byrd was the last of his kind. I'm pretty darn sure that no Democrats today are Nazi or KKK. Trump ., Nazis and KKK are not Republicans either. The lines are clear at this point.
No, I get it. However, you can not gloss over the fact that this KKK bastard (who happened to be a Democrat) was a mentor to Clinton, and revered by Obama. You can not sit there and denounce the KKK and/or say "the democrats came correct" , when the leaders of the party were mentored by, and showed admiration too, KKK leaders.
Even if this guy was the most vile Klansman how does it change current events? Last I checked Hillary is not President.

No, but last I checked, you wanted her to be. The very reason this was mentioned was to counter your notion that the Democrats are different now. Y'all still have a couple of decades before the influence of the Southern Democrats are gone from your party.  

Its this very dichotomy that is lost on the "usefull idiots" of the Left.

This is false info. Info you truly want to be true. I GET THAT. But it's not fact.
 08/16/2017 11:40 AM
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"KKK bastard (who happened to be a Democrat) was a mentor to Clinton, and revered by Obama"

He went on the books saying he regretted it all and then worked so hard to make ammends the NAACP gave him kudos.  Of course he can be part of the Democratic Party!  They forgive and accept.  Those are signs of evolved people though so...

 08/16/2017 11:43 AM
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"Forgive and accept" LOL
 08/16/2017 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by: obx2

 

Distorted thinking? You counter my point about the KKK being founded by Democrats by saying "Democrat" no longer fit the definition of today's democrats. I produce a counter to that statement, by illustrating Byrd, who was a Democrat serving in the house until 2010, a mentor to Clinton, and beloved by Obama (also Democrats).

You are ignoring the "Southern Strategy" by the Republican Party that turned the south Red and also ignoring the electoral direction of Kentucky, WVA, et al. during the last election.

 

So unless you are arguing that "Democrat" has changed since 2010,

The democratic party held on to WVA and such until recently because union was more important to the people there than social issues. The social issues have taken precedence because the people there see the Democrats as having let the unions and manufacturing/mining die.

 

Democrats, Socialists, Communists and other Left wing "ists" have a long history of subverting civility, under the guise of a false flag,

What happened in Charlottesville was not a "false flag".

 

You probably think Trump himself is to blame, don't you.

His has some responsibility having courted the Alex Jones voting bloc.

Where do you think he found the votes to flip WVA and such? Kim Davis and company switched parties and that change happened since 2010. It only took those hillbillies 30 years to catch up to Alabama and Mississippi.

 

Yep, Trump caused this, and anyone who voted for him is a racist, Nazi, traitor!!

Anyone? No. Just enough to help him win the rust belt.

 If you think both sides are guilty,

I think a lot of you "both sides are guilty" people are disingenuously talking out of both sides of your mouths.

 

 If you value the historical signifigance of the Civil War, you're a Nazi and one of them! Isn't that what you all are programmed to think?

I think that the people that think the statues erected during Jim Crow days in the south that honor Confederate leaders as heroes are just "historical" are idiots.

 



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 08/16/2017 12:03 PM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: johnny "Forgive and accept" LOL
If a Nazi or KKK changes their ways and asks for forgiveness for their superior race and hate mentality and put away the symbols that go along with it, will do. Otherwise, bah.
 08/16/2017 12:04 PM
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Johnnyreb doesn't know about things like forgiveness or gray areas (unless it's confederate gray!).  He's from the party of "fend for yourself" that is unless you try to touch his social security, medicaid, medicare, or confederate statue...

 08/16/2017 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by: Greensleeves Johnnyreb doesn't know about things like forgiveness or gray areas (unless it's confederate gray!).  He's from the party of "fend for yourself" that is unless you try to touch his social security, medicaid, medicare, or confederate statue...

Well I'm about done trying to teach people on here what's up. I'm not good at it and it wouldn't matter if I was really anyway. people are stubborn. And speaking of stubborn, I'll stick with my Criminal Trump thread.
 08/16/2017 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Originally posted by: obx2

Originally posted by: johnnyboy The soldiers for the confederacy don't need to be celebrated....




Bullshit, then why were they official given Vetrans status? Yes, they are legally and officialy considered Veterans of the United States. Why do you suppose that happened? Its because once upon a time in this country, there was a sense of "common ground" and understanding. The Nation as a whole knew the South wasn't fighting for slavery, and slavery only. Slavery was the cataylst that ecompossed many other issues that were pissing the South off.




And, here you fcking clowns are literally supporting the removal of statues of American Veterans.........at the same time calling yourseves "Americans"....




Clueless mobs, marching to the orders of predetermined narratives.




Congratulations......



Congratulations you believe fake history or a misguided interpretation of facts. It had to do with benefits for widows of confederate soldiers. It had nothing to do with pardoning confederate soldiers or accepting them as veterans to be honored.


You dumbasses have become Isis congratulations
 08/16/2017 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Might as well go whole hog. Dig up the graves of all Confederate soldiers and slave holders and hang the bodies from trees. They can serve as a reminder of the evils of slavery, since, as recent events show, we are on the cusp of reinstituting that practice. Likewise, we should change the names of any buildings, streets, schools, etc., that were named after Confederate soldiers or slave holders. We should strike any mention of Confederate soldiers, the Confederacy, slave holders, slavery and the Civil War from our history books. While we are at it, we should do all of those things with respect to people who were against woman sufferage, LGBTs, and any other minority, creed or current prog thinking. Let's take care of all of this at once.




Even if we did that the left would find something else to riot over. They will never be happy. They will just move on to another issue to throw tantrums over, it's an endless cycle.
 08/16/2017 12:59 PM
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A lot of people are ignoring the history of the 20th century. Shit didn't end in 1865.



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