Hey Matt B ... How the hell o are you ??? :)

2nd Light Forums
Decrease font size
Increase font size
Topic Title: Let's check in with the progs' vision of the perfect gov't, Venezuela.
Topic Summary:
Created On: 10/23/2014 10:12 AM
Linear : Threading : Single : Branch
Topic Tools Topic Tools
View topic in raw text format. Print this topic.
 10/23/2014 10:12 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message


tpapablo

Posts: 44108
Joined Forum: 07/25/2003

Oops, they are rationing food now, along with those other prog paradises of N. Korea and Cuba.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/despite-riches-venezuela-starts-food-rationing-1414025667?KEYWORDS=venezuela

As I have been saying lately, progs are wrong about everything.



-------------------------
I :heart; Q
 10/23/2014 10:39 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message


somebodyelse

Posts: 6770
Joined Forum: 06/29/2006

I think you must have mis-understood...                              They are probably just rationing PORTION sizes, Like limiting Cokes to 32oz drinks and school lunch portions to 300 calories......                                        The Liberals don't want grandma to have to eat cat food like the Conservatives do...                         In the liberals lexicon, it is for their own greater good....

-------------------------
 10/23/2014 10:46 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message


RustyTruck

Posts: 33412
Joined Forum: 08/02/2004

Actually, Bolivia is more our vision.

Evo Morales has proved that socialism doesn't damage economies

-------------------------
“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti
 10/23/2014 11:48 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message


tpapablo

Posts: 44108
Joined Forum: 07/25/2003

Originally posted by: RustyTruck Actually, Bolivia is more our vision. Evo Morales has proved that socialism doesn't damage economies

Venezuela isn't a prog darling anymore? Wonder why not. But, doesn't matter. the same fate will come to Bolivia. I'll keep an eye on it and update you progs on the wonderful progress that is made there.



-------------------------
I :heart; Q
 10/23/2014 03:50 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message


RustyTruck

Posts: 33412
Joined Forum: 08/02/2004

Venezuela is and has been a dictatorship. You're one of the few who doesn't know apparently.

But Morales has done a nice job, compare her results with the conservative experiment in Kansas and get back to me.

-------------------------
“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti
 10/23/2014 03:54 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message


orlandork

Posts: 420
Joined Forum: 09/08/2003

 10/23/2014 10:35 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message


ww

Posts: 16104
Joined Forum: 08/17/2007

Evo Morales is a "he."  For a "she", look to Brazil.

At least once in a while, Nicaragua threatens to give socialism a good reputation.  

The Chávez-Morales governments have wrecked the Venezuelan national oil company, so production is declining despite huge reserves and the government needs very high market prices to generate enough foreign revenue to keep going.  The government will probably have to stop energy subsidies to Caribbean countries soon. 

 10/24/2014 06:56 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message


tpapablo

Posts: 44108
Joined Forum: 07/25/2003

Originally posted by: RustyTruck Venezuela is and has been a dictatorship. You're one of the few who doesn't know apparently. But Morales has done a nice job, compare her results with the conservative experiment in Kansas and get back to me.

Senor Morales is a communist dictator and his country will go the way of all countries who have tried this. Chavez claimed the same improvements during the early part of his reign. Look at that basket case now. Remember, progs are always wrong. They are wrong here and I will, as always, get the last laugh.



-------------------------
I :heart; Q
 10/24/2014 07:01 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message


RegularJoe

Posts: 3679
Joined Forum: 11/20/2011

Originally posted by: RustyTruck
But Morales has done a nice job, compare her results with the conservative experiment in Kansas and get back to me.


Following closely? Tell me more about her.

----------------

FWIW, Bolivia never really had the great wealth gap that resource-rich neighboring countries have had. It's much easier when everyone starts at the same place, and the results always look better when that starting point is dirt poor.

They are currently reaping the benefit of possessing one fourth of the world's identified lithium reserves. (Think lithium batteries.)

If they mismanage it like Venezuela has with social policy tied to oil, they could wind up in a similar situation.


 10/24/2014 07:08 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message


WG

Posts: 37257
Joined Forum: 03/10/2005

Evo Morales hardly a dictator, like Chavez he was elected and faces a well funded and significant political opposition.



-------------------------
"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill
 10/24/2014 07:15 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message


RustyTruck

Posts: 33412
Joined Forum: 08/02/2004

If the facts bother you, feel free to attack my mistake. It's fairly rare, so enjoy!

It's true that the success in Bolivia has only recently gotten my attention, but I think the results are worthy of note. Especially in light of the economic collapse of Kansas from it's far right economics experiment.


-------------------------
“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti
Statistics
146500 users are registered to the 2nd Light Forums forum.
There are currently 2 users logged in to the forum.

FuseTalk Basic Edition - © 1999-2024 FuseTalk Inc. All rights reserved.

First there was Air Jordan .