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 07/29/2014 07:28 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: oneluv

Nice piece of revisionist history by SF. I would beg to differ in that this is the most corrupt. There was an administration that had in excess of 130 administration officials either investigated, indicted or convicted .... Oh how we long for those Reagan years!! Now you talk about a crook ... Holy Shit Ronny, Holy Shit!


Dude....there isn't ANY administration that even comes close to the corruption of Obama!

Fact!

End of story!

Not even in the ballpark!






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 07/29/2014 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer
Originally posted by: oneluv Nice piece of revisionist history by SF. I would beg to differ in that this is the most corrupt. There was an administration that had in excess of 130 administration officials either investigated, indicted or convicted .... Oh how we long for those Reagan years!! Now you talk about a crook ... Holy Shit Ronny, Holy Shit!
Dude....there isn't ANY administration that even comes close to the corruption of Obama! Fact! End of story! Not even in the ballpark!

Cause you said so? LOL!!

I assume you have proof that surpasses that of the example I referenced?

Ronny Cowboy's wild bunch were documented and fact! End of story!

 07/29/2014 08:02 AM
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I see your Reagan and I will raise you a Nixon.

How many tried and convicted?

Most of you repug, teabag, conservo freaks on here, have very bad cases of selective memory. Keeps the hate juices flowing uhh?

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 07/29/2014 08:04 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: oneluv

I assume you have proof that surpasses that of the example I referenced?




Ronny Cowboy's wild bunch were documented and fact! End of story!



No...all I need is a definition.

Obviously your definition of corruption and the actual definition of corruption aren't on the same page.

Fact!

Definition of corruption (n)
Bing Dictionary
cor·rup·tion
[ k? rúpsh'n ]
1.dishonesty for personal gain: dishonest exploitation of power for personal gain
2.depravity: extreme immorality or depravity
3.undesirable change: an undesirable change in meaning or another error introduced into a text during copying


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 07/29/2014 11:39 AM
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"By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. "

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 07/29/2014 11:44 AM
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"Richard M. Nixon (1969-1974) was the only American President to resign, as his role was discovered in covering up a burglary, by agents of his re-election committee, of the Democratic National Committee's offices at the Watergate complex in Washington, D.C.
Nixon's reputation for political chicanery went back to his first run for Congress in 1946, when, according to American Heritage, he had anonymous phone bankers call registered Democrats and ask about his opponent, "Did you know that Jerry Voorhis is a communist?" He kept up the theme in his 1950 Senate race, when he labelled liberal opponent Helen Gahagan Douglas "pink right down to her underwear." (In return, Douglas called Nixon "Tricky Dick," a nickname that stuck.) Year's later, Nixon's campaign henchman Murray Chotiner would mentor Bush's Karl Rove.²

In 1952, Nixon dodged an allegation of corruption and turned it to his political advantage. While running for Vice President with Dwight D. Eisenhower, he was accused of having a secret trust fund set up by supporters. Nixon decided to go on national TV with a live speech, inviting investigation of his finances and stating that no donor had asked for or received any favors. The emotional clincher was his statement that one admirer had sent the family a cocker spaniel puppy named Checkers. "The kids love that dog," he declared, "and I want to say right now that regardless of what they say, we're going to keep it."

The "Checkers Speech" saved Nixon's career. Eisenhower kept him on the ticket and he went on to serve eight years as Vice President.

In 1960 Nixon ran for President, losing a close race to John F. Kennedy. Two years later he lost a bitter race for Governor of California to Pat Brown and retired from politics, telling the press, "You won't have Nixon to kick around anymore."

But Nixon's work on behalf of fellow Republicans over the next few years help him win the party's nomination for President in 1968. He beat Democrat Hubert Humphrey in the general election on a promise of "law and order" and a "secret plan to end the war in Vietnam," which he said he "couldn't reveal without damaging national security."

Upon Nixon's election, that secret plan to end the war in Vietnam never unfolded. In fact, 21,014 Americans would die there during his presidency. Yet four years later, with the war still raging, he was able to win a landslide re-election against Democratic Party "peacenik" George McGovern.

But that re-election turned out to be the high point of an abbreviated second term. The Vietnam quagmire got worse and worse. Vice President Spiro Agnew resigned from office and was convicted in federal court on a felony charge of income tax evasion. Nixon appointed Rep. Gerald Ford of Michigan to replace him.

As he had done throughout his campaigns, Nixon used all the power at his disposal to defeat his opponents. This included keeping an enemies list, the purpose of which, White House counsel John Dean wrote in an internal memorandum, was to deal "with persons known to be active in their opposition to our Administration; stated a bit more bluntly--how we can use the available federal machinery to screw our political enemies"....by means of tax audits from the IRS, and by manipulating "grant availability, federal contracts, litigation, prosecution, etc."

The abuses of government power culminating in the Watergate break-in and cover-up derailed the administration, and showed how a man consumed with enemies can be his own worst enemy. He fired special Watergate prosecutor Archibald Cox, and forced his Attorney General and Deputy Attorney General to resign when neither would do it for him. What finished Nixon's presidency was his decision in April, 1974, to release edited transcripts of taped White House conversations that he thought would assure the public of his innocence over Watergate. They did exactly the opposite.

Soon the Supreme Court ordered Nixon to release additional tapes sought by the second special Watergate prosecutor, Leon Jaworski, as evidence in criminal proceedings. Three of these recordings documented Nixon's personal role in the Watergate cover-up.

With Congressional support gone and impeachment certain, Nixon resigned the Presidency on August 9, 1974. Gerald Ford was sworn in as president and declared, "Our long national nightmare is over."

Ford's hopeful words earned him a brief honeymoon with an American public sick and tired of Watergate. But the honeymoon ended several weeks later, when Ford pardoned Nixon for any and all crimes he may have committed while President. The public's harsh reaction to the pardon - including the suspicion that it had been pre-arranged when Nixon picked Ford for VP - played a role in Ford's 1976 defeat by Jimmy Carter.

Nixon, freed from the cares of the White House and the prospect of criminal prosecution, worked to win back respect on the world stage as an elder statesman, and largely succeeded. His funeral in 1994 was attended by all five living Presidents--Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr., and Clinton.¹

Indeed, alongside the black marks of Vietnam and Watergate are accomplishments of Nixon's that stand in stark contrast to the similarly controversial presidency of George W. Bush: for example, his signing of the Clean Water Act and establishment of the Environmental Protection Agency, both to be severely weakened by Bush; his widely hailed diplomatic outreach to China vs. Bush's go it alone, anti-diplomacy tack; and his impetuous visit to the Lincoln Memorial where he chatted with anti-war protestors, vs. Bush's refusal to meet with Cindy Sheehan, the mother of a soldier killed in Iraq. But from their earliest days, Nixon and Bush had been as different as two polarizing presidents could be: one of modest means who went to Duke Law School on a full scholarship and graduated third in his class; the other a wealthy son of privilege whom one professor remembered as spoiled, loutish and a liar.

However divisive the Nixon years, it's easy to wax nostalgic for a national press that helped expose a scandal instead of cover it up, and for a Supreme Court and Congress that were strong enough to make the White House hand over evidence of criminal wrong-doing. "One of the best things about having three branches of government," said Senator Sam Ervin at the time, "is that it's hard to corrupt all three at the same time."

But then came 2001-2009."



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 07/29/2014 11:49 AM
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"George W. Bush (2001-2009) came to office through a Supreme Court decision following a contested plurality of 537 votes in Florida, and his defeat by over half a million votes in the popular election. Most Americans know how narrow the vote was in Florida, but not why.

Five months before the election, George Bush's brother, Florida Governor Jeb Bush, had 57,700 people purged from the voter rolls - ostensibly for being convicted felons, who were not allowed by Florida law to vote. As it turns out, over 90% of the voters on the hit list were not felons at all. Some of their supposed felonies were actually dated in the future. It was an overwhelmingly Democratic list of voters - over half blacks and Hispanics. Had these citizens not been prevented from voting, Al Gore would have been elected President of the United States.³

With six years in public office as Governor of Texas, Bush was new to foreign affairs, as evidenced by an interview during the campaign in which he could not identify a number of leaders of major countries. But savvy political handler Karl Rove knew that Bush's surplus of style could make up for his deficit of substance with many American voters. Rove groomed Bush's image as a Washington outsider (though a Yale-educated President's son), born again Christian, and down home cowboy.

The cowboy image required a "ranch," a la Reagan, so in the year before the 2000 election, Bush purchased one in Crawford, Texas. Although no actual ranching ever went on there, the President busied himself clearing brush and riding his mountain bike around the property. He liked his "ranch" so much that he spent a greater percentage of his time on vacation than any President in American history.4

But then, George W. Bush had many cares of the office to escape. While at the ranch on a six week vacation in August, 2001, he received a memo from Condoleeza Rice entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."

That's what happened a few weeks later on September 11 - apparently after no special effort by the White House to step up protection against the hijackings that were being predicted by intelligence reports. Several days after the attacks, when U.S. air space was still closed, Bush authorized special flights back to Saudi Arabia for Osama bin Laden's relatives and other wealthy Saudis, "for their safety." The White House then vigorously fought creation of the 9-11 commission, which Bush and Cheney finally testified before together (try that at your local police station). With 14 of the 18 hijackers from Saudi Arabia, the administration redacted multiple pages of the commission's report on Saudi involvement in the attack.

Four years later, while on another extended vacation at the "ranch," Bush was briefed on the destruction about to be unleashed on the Gulf Coast by Hurricane Katrina, including the likelihood that levies in New Orleans would be breached. In the videotaped meeting, Bush asked no questions. He then flew to California to raise money for Republican candidates.

The man he left in charge, his politically appointed director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Michael Brown, was woefully unprepared to handle the disaster that ensued when the levies broke and New Orleans flooded. (The only thing he'd managed before the FEMA job was Arabian horse shows.)

In between 9-11 and Katrina, Bush's "War on Terror" lost track of Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan and turned its attention to invading Iraq. Removing Saddam Hussein from power was imperative, Bush said, because (a) he had weapons of mass destruction, (b) was linked to Al Qaeda terrorists who attacked the U.S. on 9/11, and (c) needed to be removed to make that country safe for democracy. All of the reasons given for the war were soon discredited by real events, but Bush dug America in for the long haul, saying that "future Presidents" would decide when we'd leave Iraq.

After all, there was much to be gained by staying. Halliburton, the firm formerly headed by Vice President Dick Cheney, was one of the biggest beneficiaries, gaining multi-billion dollar contracts in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as America's ravaged gulf coast, by sealed, noncompetitive bids. In gratitude, in 2007 the company moved its corporate headquarters from Houston to Dubai, thereby avoiding U.S. taxes.

The Bush family was not left off the War on Terror's money train. Uncle "Bucky" earned millions in a war firm sale in 2006.

Other Bush scandals include: the secret meetings of Cheney's "Energy Council," followed by systematic weakening of America's environmental laws and staffing of the EPA and other agencies with industry insiders, the attempt to dismantle Social Security, the dumbing down of American education through No Child Left Behind, an inherited budget surplus turned into record deficit by waging two wars while cutting taxes--with the vast majority of benefits going to the super-rich, the torture of prisoners and loss of American goodwill overseas, the bullying of administration whistle blowers such as Joseph Wilson (whose wife was outted as a CIA agent), another tainted election with Ohio voting irregularities in 2004, the arrest of White House appointees for assorted crimes, the mistreatment of returning war veterans at Walter Reed and other hospitals, and for a grand finale, a leading role in the collapse of the economy through its aggressive deregulation and non-policing of the financial markets.

With so much bad news for Americans to handle over eight years of corruption and incompetence, Karl Rove and other White House insiders took to calling any favorable news events that could help people forget bad news as "page turners." Now President Obama also wants America to turn the page and "look forward" rather than go after wrongdoers from the Bush administration, such as those who ordered torture...as if good government no longer required accountability. But those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

Historians may well judge the Bush scandals as more extensive than any that disgraced Grant, Harding, Nixon, or any other American president, due to their sheer scale. "


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 07/29/2014 11:57 AM
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The Nixon administration had 43 convictions and incarcerations for Watergate alone.

Not to mention the ex VP Spiro T Agnew.

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President Obama claims that Republicans are busy probing "phony scandals." But the sheer number of scandals suggests that misbehavior, abuse of power, and possibly corruption are not something being dreamed up by the GOP, but a defining characteristic of the Obama administration.

Here is a full list of the administration's most egregious scandals. The ones we know about, at least. I've added four since the last time we ran the list - an increase of 20 percent!

1. IRS targets Obama's enemies: The IRS targeted conservative and pro-Israel groups prior to the 2012 election. Questions are being raised about why this occurred, who ordered it, whether there was any White House involvement and whether there was an initial effort to hide who knew about the targeting and when.

2. Benghazi: This is actually three scandals in one:

?The failure of administration to protect the Benghazi mission.
?The changes made to the talking points in order to suggest the attack was motivated by an anti-Muslim video
?The refusal of the White House to say what President Obama did the night of the attack
3. Watching the AP: The Justice Department performed a massive cull of Associated Press reporters' phone records as part of a leak investigation.

4. Rosengate: The Justice Department suggested that Fox News reporter James Rosen is a criminal for reporting about classified information and subsequently monitored his phones and emails.

5. Potential Holder perjury I: Attorney General Eric Holder told Congress he had never been associated with "potential prosecution" of a journalist for perjury when in fact he signed the affidavit that termed Rosen a potential criminal.

6. The ATF "Fast and Furious" scheme: Allowed weapons from the U.S. to "walk" across the border into the hands of Mexican drug dealers. The ATF lost track of hundreds of firearms, many of which were used in crimes, including the December 2010 killing of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

7. Potential Holder Perjury II: Holder told Congress in May 2011 that he had just recently heard about the Fast and Furious gun walking scheme when there is evidence he may have known much earlier.

8. Sebelius demands payment: HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius solicited donations from companies HHS might regulate. The money would be used to help her sign up uninsured Americans for ObamaCare.

9. The Pigford scandal: An Agriculture Department effort that started as an attempt to compensate black farmers who had been discriminated against by the agency but evolved into a gravy train delivering several billion dollars in cash to thousands of additional minority and female farmers who probably didn't face discrimination.

10. GSA gone wild: The General Services Administration in 2010 held an $823,000 training conference in Las Vegas, featuring a clown and a mind readers. Resulted in the resignation of the GSA administrator.

11. Veterans Affairs in Disney World: The agency wasted more than $6 million on two conferences in Orlando. An assistant secretary was fired.

12. Sebelius violates the Hatch Act: A U.S. special counsel determined that Sebelius violated the Hatch Act when she made "extemporaneous partisan remarks" during a speech in her official capacity last year. During the remarks, Sebelius called for the election of the Democratic candidate for governor of North Carolina.

13. Solyndra: Republicans charged the Obama administration funded and promoted its poster boy for green energy despite warning signs the company was headed for bankruptcy. The administration also allegedly pressed Solyndra to delay layoff announcements until after the 2010 midterm elections.

14. AKA Lisa Jackson: Former EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson used the name "Richard Windsor" when corresponding by email with other government officials, drawing charges she was trying to evade scrutiny.

15. The New Black Panthers: The Justice Department was accused of using a racial double standard in failing to pursue a voter intimidation case against Black Panthers who appeared to be menacing voters at a polling place in 2008 in Philadelphia.

16. Waging war all by myself: Obama may have violated the Constitution and both the letter and the spirit of the War Powers Resolution by attacking Libya without Congressional approval.

17. Biden bullies the press: Vice President Biden's office has repeatedly interfered with coverage, including forcing a reporter to wait in a closet, making a reporter delete photos, and editing pool reports.

18. AKPD not A-OK: The administration paid millions to the former firm of then-White House adviser David Axelrod, AKPD Message and Media, to promote passage of Obamacare. Some questioned whether the firm was hired to help pay Axelrod $2 million AKPD owed him.

19. Sestak, we'll take care of you: Former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel used Bill Clinton as an intermediary to probe whether former Rep. Joe Sestak (D-Pa.) would accept a prominent, unpaid White House advisory position in exchange for dropping out of the 2010 primary against former Sen. Arlen Specter (D-Pa.).

20. I'll pass my own laws: Obama has repeatedly been accused of making end runs around Congress by deciding which laws to enforce, including the decision not to deport illegal immigrants who may have been allowed to stay in the United States had Congress passed the "Dream Act."

21. The hacking of Sharyl Attkisson's computer: It's not clear who hacked the CBS reporter's computer as she investigated the Benghazi scandal, but the Obama administration and its allies had both the motive and the means to do it.

22. An American Political Prisoner: The sudden decision to arrest Nakoula Basseley Nakoula on unrelated charges after protests in the Arab world over his anti-Muslim video is an extraordinarily suspicious coincidence. "We're going to go out and we're going to prosecute the person that made that video," Hillary Clinton allegedly told the father of one of the ex-SEALs killed in Banghazi.

23. Get rid of inconvenient IGs: Corporation for National and Community Service Inspector General Gerald Walpin was fired in 2009 as he fought wasteful spending and investigated a friend of Obama's, Sacramento Mayor and former NBA player Kevin Johnson. The White House says Walpin was incompetent.

24. Influence peddling: An investigation is underway of Alejandro Mayorkas, director of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, who has been nominated by Obama for the number two post at the Department of Homeland Security. Mayorkas may have used his position to unfairly obtain U.S. visas for foreign investors in company run by Hillary Clinton's brother, Anthony Rodham.



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 07/29/2014 12:56 PM
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jdbman

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By my count you win 407-24. ( I could be off by a conviction or 2 )

When it comes to scandals, indictments, convictions you repugs are the hand down winners.


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 07/29/2014 01:01 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: jdbman

By my count you win 407-24. ( I could be off by a conviction or 2 )



When it comes to scandals, indictments, convictions you repugs are the hand down winners.


We haven't begun to convict Obama crap...Holder is in office.

When the power shifts back to the right you will eat your words.

Fact!

Your boys are going to jail!

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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PIC PC BS--
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion...king-in-front-muslims/

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