10 YEARS left to fix it.


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but in the end,
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Edited: 10/08/2018 at 09:31 PM by WG

Getting pretty dire. But, even if the U.S. went to a Zero carbon footprint, the rest of the world would still keep on trucking towards oblivion.

Even as bad as it all seems to be, there are still many in the world that believe that the likes of India and the rest of the Second and Third World should be allowed to continue to pollute so that they can grow and claw their way out of the 19th Century.

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are they wrong?

^Yep, they have the opportunity learn from our mistakes and "grow clean", unlike China. "Stupid is as stupid does.", Forrest Gump.

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Banging on my old drum. It is October 9 and the temp at my house has not yet been below 75F. The average low this time of year is 70. On average 1/2 of days should be above and 1/2 below the median (or mean in what is a set of normally distributed data). The min temp has been above average every day this summer. This has been true of every summer for the last 10 years here on east coast FL. Primary driver has been warm sea surface temps and anomalous temps at 15-25k feet altitude which have been capping convection and trapping humidity at the surface. Looking at the Titusville weather records (station is slightly closer to our house than MLB and has a record back to 1901) it looks like somebody flipped a switching round about 1996-1997.

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The warm nights affect plant life. Higher respiration. There's a reason why agricultural yields are so spectacular in places with warm days, cool nights (and often irrigation). Hood River, Oregon fills that bill. (Also a big watersports haven).

The warming minimums and elevated dewpoints have been a trend over big swaths of the US. Probably why summer convection driven flooding has been so common up north for several years running. I saw dewpoints up between 75 and 78 in Minneapolis this summer, about the time that Wisconsin was getting flooded.

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And just what exactly have we learnt from our mistakes?

You need examples? Like organochlorine pesticides are not good for wide broadcast application, halocarbon refrigerants not good if you want an ozone, solar/wind/renewable energy less carbon impact than fossil? The list goes on and on and on and on..... Sheesh.

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It's a filter!

Edited: 10/10/2018 at 07:17 PM by TeeBirdForever

The likes of India and the rest of the Second and Third World should be encouraged to use 21st century technologies to grow and claw their way out of the 19th Century.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill