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Topic Title: It was never the Ukraine
Topic Summary: It was always Russia
Created On: 12/03/2019 09:13 AM
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 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/03/2019 09:13 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Greensleeves - 12/03/2019 10:02 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/03/2019 10:09 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - theglide - 12/03/2019 10:13 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/03/2019 10:56 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/03/2019 12:15 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - somebodyelse - 12/03/2019 04:09 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/03/2019 04:29 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/04/2019 06:35 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - HAPDigital - 12/04/2019 07:08 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - 3rdworldlover - 12/04/2019 07:13 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Cole - 12/04/2019 07:16 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/04/2019 07:22 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - 3rdworldlover - 12/04/2019 07:48 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/04/2019 08:13 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Cole - 12/04/2019 07:53 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/04/2019 08:11 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - HAPDigital - 12/04/2019 08:22 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/04/2019 08:46 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - 3rdworldlover - 12/04/2019 09:13 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - HAPDigital - 12/04/2019 09:44 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Cole - 12/05/2019 03:51 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - wtf - 12/04/2019 09:44 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/04/2019 11:22 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/04/2019 12:30 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/04/2019 12:37 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Fish Killer - 12/04/2019 01:16 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/04/2019 02:41 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - HAPDigital - 12/04/2019 03:31 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/04/2019 01:19 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/04/2019 01:47 PM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/05/2019 05:24 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Sniper - 12/05/2019 05:42 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - RustyTruck - 12/05/2019 06:00 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/05/2019 06:50 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - jdbman - 12/05/2019 08:48 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - somebodyelse - 12/05/2019 09:19 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - RustyTruck - 12/05/2019 09:49 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - somebodyelse - 12/05/2019 10:20 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Greensleeves - 12/05/2019 10:17 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - somebodyelse - 12/05/2019 10:26 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Greensleeves - 12/05/2019 10:34 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - somebodyelse - 12/05/2019 10:36 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - RustyTruck - 12/05/2019 10:43 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - Greensleeves - 12/05/2019 10:45 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - somebodyelse - 12/05/2019 10:59 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - fishkller - 12/05/2019 11:43 AM  
 It was never the Ukraine   - johnnyboy - 12/05/2019 12:51 PM  
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johnnyboy

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This is why I have been questioning Sniper's surfing. He is pretending to have an open mind when an open mind means that he will not accept the conclusion that Russia was and is the culprit based on evidence, the intelligence community's assessment and the indictment of the GRU members specifically. You are supposed to start with an open mind and accept the facts regardless of the direction they take you. You are refusing to accept the facts and stalling at the beginning to avoid the inevitable conclusion as if that's the same. Your "open mind" is really just a refusal to accept facts. You even posted links debunking your own premise and you are always keeping an open mind when the evidence is clearly against the conclusion you stated with and defend with that same alleged open mind.

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